Re: Hama proposal, was: [VOTE] Accept Hama into the Incubator
Also, a mentor needs to be an Incubator PMC member. Not sure any of your proposed mentors are. If they're Apache members, they can just ask to become IPMC members. Oh... Thank you for your advice. Then, Should we ask to become IPMC members before mentoring and delay the vote? Edward On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Thilo Goetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edward J. Yoon wrote: [...] == Core Developers == The initial set of committers includes folks from the [http://hadoop.apache.org Hadoop] [http://hadoop.apache.org/hbase Hbase] communities. We have varying degrees of experience with Apache-style open source development, ranging from none to ASF Members. Hi Edward, can you elaborate on who of the initial committers are ASF members? Maybe you meant committers? Also, a mentor needs to be an Incubator PMC member. Not sure any of your proposed mentors are. If they're Apache members, they can just ask to become IPMC members. HTH, Thilo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- B. Regards, Edward J. Yoon, http://blog.udanax.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hama proposal, was: [VOTE] Accept Hama into the Incubator
Edward J. Yoon wrote: Also, a mentor needs to be an Incubator PMC member. Not sure any of your proposed mentors are. If they're Apache members, they can just ask to become IPMC members. Oh... Thank you for your advice. Then, Should we ask to become IPMC members before mentoring and delay the vote? I think you'll find it difficult to obtain 3 binding +1s until you have enough (at least 2) Mentors. If you, Jeff and Ian already are Apache Members this will be very easy and there's no reason to delay the vote, IMHO. And just to be perfectly clear, when I say Apache Member, I mean in the sense of http://www.apache.org/foundation/how-it-works.html#asf-members Description of the Mentor role is here: http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Mentor --Thilo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hama proposal, was: [VOTE] Accept Hama into the Incubator
Oh, Sorry for our carelessness. We clearly overlooked the mention of the champion/mentor qualifications. can you elaborate on who of the initial committers are ASF members? Maybe you meant committers? I have amended it as follows: initial set of Hama committers Also, a mentor needs to be an Incubator PMC member. Not sure any of your proposed mentors are. If they're Apache members, they can just ask to become IPMC members. They'are Apache members, but not a member of Incubator PMC. Then, I wonder whether this proposal should be continued without champion/mentors. -Edward On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Edward J. Yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, a mentor needs to be an Incubator PMC member. Not sure any of your proposed mentors are. If they're Apache members, they can just ask to become IPMC members. Oh... Thank you for your advice. Then, Should we ask to become IPMC members before mentoring and delay the vote? Edward On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Thilo Goetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edward J. Yoon wrote: [...] == Core Developers == The initial set of committers includes folks from the [http://hadoop.apache.org Hadoop] [http://hadoop.apache.org/hbase Hbase] communities. We have varying degrees of experience with Apache-style open source development, ranging from none to ASF Members. Hi Edward, can you elaborate on who of the initial committers are ASF members? Maybe you meant committers? Also, a mentor needs to be an Incubator PMC member. Not sure any of your proposed mentors are. If they're Apache members, they can just ask to become IPMC members. HTH, Thilo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- B. Regards, Edward J. Yoon, http://blog.udanax.org -- B. Regards, Edward J. Yoon, http://blog.udanax.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hama proposal, was: [VOTE] Accept Hama into the Incubator
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Edward J. Yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, Sorry for our carelessness. We clearly overlooked the mention of the champion/mentor qualifications. can you elaborate on who of the initial committers are ASF members? Maybe you meant committers? I have amended it as follows: initial set of Hama committers Also, a mentor needs to be an Incubator PMC member. Not sure any of your proposed mentors are. If they're Apache members, they can just ask to become IPMC members. They'are Apache members, but not a member of Incubator PMC. Then, I wonder whether this proposal should be continued without champion/mentors. Ian Holsman is an Apache member and can become a member of the Incubator PMC by simply sending a request to the Incubator PMC chair. Jeff doesn't appear to be an Apache member Niall -Edward On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Edward J. Yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, a mentor needs to be an Incubator PMC member. Not sure any of your proposed mentors are. If they're Apache members, they can just ask to become IPMC members. Oh... Thank you for your advice. Then, Should we ask to become IPMC members before mentoring and delay the vote? Edward On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Thilo Goetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edward J. Yoon wrote: [...] == Core Developers == The initial set of committers includes folks from the [http://hadoop.apache.org Hadoop] [http://hadoop.apache.org/hbase Hbase] communities. We have varying degrees of experience with Apache-style open source development, ranging from none to ASF Members. Hi Edward, can you elaborate on who of the initial committers are ASF members? Maybe you meant committers? Also, a mentor needs to be an Incubator PMC member. Not sure any of your proposed mentors are. If they're Apache members, they can just ask to become IPMC members. HTH, Thilo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- B. Regards, Edward J. Yoon, http://blog.udanax.org -- B. Regards, Edward J. Yoon, http://blog.udanax.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hama proposal, was: [VOTE] Accept Hama into the Incubator
Niall Pemberton wrote: On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Edward J. Yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, Sorry for our carelessness. We clearly overlooked the mention of the champion/mentor qualifications. can you elaborate on who of the initial committers are ASF members? Maybe you meant committers? I have amended it as follows: initial set of Hama committers Also, a mentor needs to be an Incubator PMC member. Not sure any of your proposed mentors are. If they're Apache members, they can just ask to become IPMC members. They'are Apache members, but not a member of Incubator PMC. Then, I wonder whether this proposal should be continued without champion/mentors. Ian Holsman is an Apache member and can become a member of the Incubator PMC by simply sending a request to the Incubator PMC chair. Jeff doesn't appear to be an Apache member Niall -Edward On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Edward J. Yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, a mentor needs to be an Incubator PMC member. Not sure any of your proposed mentors are. If they're Apache members, they can just ask to become IPMC members. Oh... Thank you for your advice. Then, Should we ask to become IPMC members before mentoring and delay the vote? Edward On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Thilo Goetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edward J. Yoon wrote: [...] == Core Developers == The initial set of committers includes folks from the [http://hadoop.apache.org Hadoop] [http://hadoop.apache.org/hbase Hbase] communities. We have varying degrees of experience with Apache-style open source development, ranging from none to ASF Members. Hi Edward, can you elaborate on who of the initial committers are ASF members? Maybe you meant committers? Also, a mentor needs to be an Incubator PMC member. Not sure any of your proposed mentors are. If they're Apache members, they can just ask to become IPMC members. HTH, Thilo - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- B. Regards, Edward J. Yoon, http://blog.udanax.org -- B. Regards, Edward J. Yoon, http://blog.udanax.org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Actually, I'm a (recent) committer on the Mahout project. As such, I do not have much familiarity with the mechanics of being a champion but I'm willing to learn. Jeff jeastman at apache dot org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hama proposal, was: [VOTE] Accept Hama into the Incubator
On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Jeff Eastman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Niall Pemberton wrote: On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Edward J. Yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, Sorry for our carelessness. We clearly overlooked the mention of the champion/mentor qualifications. can you elaborate on who of the initial committers are ASF members? Maybe you meant committers? I have amended it as follows: initial set of Hama committers Also, a mentor needs to be an Incubator PMC member. Not sure any of your proposed mentors are. If they're Apache members, they can just ask to become IPMC members. They'are Apache members, but not a member of Incubator PMC. Then, I wonder whether this proposal should be continued without champion/mentors. Ian Holsman is an Apache member and can become a member of the Incubator PMC by simply sending a request to the Incubator PMC chair. Jeff doesn't appear to be an Apache member Niall -Edward On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Edward J. Yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, a mentor needs to be an Incubator PMC member. Not sure any of your proposed mentors are. If they're Apache members, they can just ask to become IPMC members. Oh... Thank you for your advice. Then, Should we ask to become IPMC members before mentoring and delay the vote? Edward On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Thilo Goetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edward J. Yoon wrote: [...] == Core Developers == The initial set of committers includes folks from the [http://hadoop.apache.org Hadoop] [http://hadoop.apache.org/hbase Hbase] communities. We have varying degrees of experience with Apache-style open source development, ranging from none to ASF Members. Hi Edward, can you elaborate on who of the initial committers are ASF members? Maybe you meant committers? Also, a mentor needs to be an Incubator PMC member. Not sure any of your proposed mentors are. If they're Apache members, they can just ask to become IPMC members. HTH, Thilo Actually, I'm a (recent) committer on the Mahout project. As such, I do not have much familiarity with the mechanics of being a champion but I'm willing to learn. OK but I think you're mis-understanding - committer is not the same as member of the ASF: http://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Champion Niall Jeff jeastman at apache dot org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Hama proposal, was: [VOTE] Accept Hama into the Incubator
Niall Pemberton wrote: On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 3:35 PM, Jeff Eastman [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Niall Pemberton wrote: On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 1:44 PM, Edward J. Yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Oh, Sorry for our carelessness. We clearly overlooked the mention of the champion/mentor qualifications. can you elaborate on who of the initial committers are ASF members? Maybe you meant committers? I have amended it as follows: initial set of Hama committers Also, a mentor needs to be an Incubator PMC member. Not sure any of your proposed mentors are. If they're Apache members, they can just ask to become IPMC members. They'are Apache members, but not a member of Incubator PMC. Then, I wonder whether this proposal should be continued without champion/mentors. Ian Holsman is an Apache member and can become a member of the Incubator PMC by simply sending a request to the Incubator PMC chair. Jeff doesn't appear to be an Apache member Niall -Edward On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:54 PM, Edward J. Yoon [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Also, a mentor needs to be an Incubator PMC member. Not sure any of your proposed mentors are. If they're Apache members, they can just ask to become IPMC members. Oh... Thank you for your advice. Then, Should we ask to become IPMC members before mentoring and delay the vote? Edward On Wed, May 14, 2008 at 8:45 PM, Thilo Goetz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Edward J. Yoon wrote: [...] == Core Developers == The initial set of committers includes folks from the [http://hadoop.apache.org Hadoop] [http://hadoop.apache.org/hbase Hbase] communities. We have varying degrees of experience with Apache-style open source development, ranging from none to ASF Members. Hi Edward, can you elaborate on who of the initial committers are ASF members? Maybe you meant committers? Also, a mentor needs to be an Incubator PMC member. Not sure any of your proposed mentors are. If they're Apache members, they can just ask to become IPMC members. HTH, Thilo Actually, I'm a (recent) committer on the Mahout project. As such, I do not have much familiarity with the mechanics of being a champion but I'm willing to learn. OK but I think you're mis-understanding - committer is not the same as member of the ASF: http://www.apache.org/foundation/members.html http://incubator.apache.org/incubation/Roles_and_Responsibilities.html#Champion Niall Jeff jeastman at apache dot org - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Yes, we were both confused by that distinction. My apologies. Jeff - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
