Re: Question about IP CLEARANCE

[Christopher]

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 10:34 PM Dave Fisher  wrote:

>
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> > On Apr 16, 2018, at 7:16 PM, Christopher  wrote:
> >
> > On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:28 PM Roman Shaposhnik 
> > wrote:
> >
> >>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Christopher 
> wrote:
> >>> Two questions about IP CLEARANCE:
> >>>
> >>> There is a line item in the template for making sure that files are
> >> updated
> >>> to reflect ASF copyright. Must this be done before the files are
> actually
> >>> transferred to the receiving PMC, while still being hosted in the
> >> donating
> >>> party's repository?
> >>
> >> There's no requirement like that. You can transfer files into a branch
> and
> >> do the clean up on ASF infrastructure. You will NOT be able to do
> releases
> >> off of that branch, of course.
> >>
> >>
> > It's pretty clearly documented:
> > http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html
> > If it's not a requirement, why is it there? Can I just delete it from the
> > template?
>
> No, I’m not reading the page the same way that you are. To be clear the
> two lines about SGA/CCLA and Copyright changes are separate, not
> simultaneous.
>
> Here are the real steps.
>
> (1) Submit SGA/CCLA to secretary@
> (2) Do IP Clearance with Incubator.
> (3) Arrange with Infra and/or project moving / checking in the code.
> (4) Update Copyrights - if needed. Always best if it’s someone from the
> contributor.
>
>
That list appears to be self referential:

Steps for IP Clearancce:
1. do ...
2. do "Steps for IP Clearance"
3. do ...

That is very confusing.


> If you want to suggest updating the language or the recording tables then
> please provide it for discussion.
>
>
I like to try to understand a process before suggesting changes to it. I
can try to start making some suggestions now to change
http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html  and
http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ ; what is the best delivery
method for suggesting changes? Can I attach a patch to this list or does
the Incubator website have an issue tracker I should use? (Related thought:
this would be easier if incubator website was git-based on gitbox; I could
just do a pull request )

Re: Question about IP CLEARANCE

[Dave Fisher]

Sent from my iPhone

> On Apr 16, 2018, at 7:16 PM, Christopher  wrote:
> 
> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:28 PM Roman Shaposhnik 
> wrote:
> 
>>> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Christopher  wrote:
>>> Two questions about IP CLEARANCE:
>>> 
>>> There is a line item in the template for making sure that files are
>> updated
>>> to reflect ASF copyright. Must this be done before the files are actually
>>> transferred to the receiving PMC, while still being hosted in the
>> donating
>>> party's repository?
>> 
>> There's no requirement like that. You can transfer files into a branch and
>> do the clean up on ASF infrastructure. You will NOT be able to do releases
>> off of that branch, of course.
>> 
>> 
> It's pretty clearly documented:
> http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html
> If it's not a requirement, why is it there? Can I just delete it from the
> template?

No, I’m not reading the page the same way that you are. To be clear the two 
lines about SGA/CCLA and Copyright changes are separate, not simultaneous.

Here are the real steps.

(1) Submit SGA/CCLA to secretary@
(2) Do IP Clearance with Incubator.
(3) Arrange with Infra and/or project moving / checking in the code.
(4) Update Copyrights - if needed. Always best if it’s someone from the 
contributor.

If you want to suggest updating the language or the recording tables then 
please provide it for discussion.

Regards,
Dave

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Re: Question about IP CLEARANCE

[Christopher]

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 8:28 PM Roman Shaposhnik 
wrote:

> On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Christopher  wrote:
> > Two questions about IP CLEARANCE:
> >
> > There is a line item in the template for making sure that files are
> updated
> > to reflect ASF copyright. Must this be done before the files are actually
> > transferred to the receiving PMC, while still being hosted in the
> donating
> > party's repository?
>
> There's no requirement like that. You can transfer files into a branch and
> do the clean up on ASF infrastructure. You will NOT be able to do releases
> off of that branch, of course.
>
>
It's pretty clearly documented:
http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/ip-clearance-template.html
If it's not a requirement, why is it there? Can I just delete it from the
template?

Re: Question about IP CLEARANCE

[Roman Shaposhnik]

On Mon, Apr 16, 2018 at 4:18 PM, Christopher  wrote:
> Two questions about IP CLEARANCE:
>
> There is a line item in the template for making sure that files are updated
> to reflect ASF copyright. Must this be done before the files are actually
> transferred to the receiving PMC, while still being hosted in the donating
> party's repository?

There's no requirement like that. You can transfer files into a branch and
do the clean up on ASF infrastructure. You will NOT be able to do releases
off of that branch, of course.

Thanks,
Roman.

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