Re: Current roster of the Jakarta PMC

2003-03-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Could you please elaborate on how these projects have achieved these aims under the current PMC? no. I'm very interested in where Apache/Jakarta members have been/are currently excluded, and how the new PMC will stop this from happening. I've no desire to engage. Stand down from red

Re: Jakarta-POI 1.10.0-dev released

2003-03-04 Thread Magesh Umasankar
Glen can find some pointers here: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-httpd-devm=103578980325833w=2 Not trying to be picky, but in addition to poi-dev and poi-user, an announcement sent to [EMAIL PROTECTED] would be more appropriate and target the right audience, IMHO. Congrats on the

RE: Jakarta-POI 1.10.0-dev released

2003-03-04 Thread Howard M. Lewis Ship
I'm looking for a bit of advice. People keep asking me how many people are using Tapestry ... and I honestly have no idea. Insufficient feedback. Do you have a way of determining the user base of POI? Any guidelines based on downloads? -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator, Tapestry: Java Web

Re: Jakarta-POI 1.10.0-dev released

2003-03-04 Thread Glen Stampoultzis
At 09:58 AM 5/03/2003, you wrote: Why we skipped a release number, only Glen would know. :-) I guess we really need to write this down. To clarify my (maybe flawed) thinking: We were running a nightly build called 1.9-dev. The milestone build before that was 1.8-dev. In order to avoid

RE: Jakarta-POI 1.10.0-dev released

2003-03-04 Thread Howard M. Lewis Ship
Woops --- that was supposed to be private. But advice is still welcome. -- Howard M. Lewis Ship Creator, Tapestry: Java Web Components http://jakarta.apache.org/proposals/tapestry -Original Message- From: Howard M. Lewis Ship [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Tuesday, March 04, 2003

Re: answer to Howard or State of the POI (WAS: Re: Jakarta-POI 1.10.0-dev released)

2003-03-04 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andrew C. Oliver writes: Next, I measure the success of it by two other things: Microsoft's ... Microsoft sort of way) and the final crux will be the day this http://www.tidestone.com/index.jsp goes out of business. The first clue I don't think this is an

Re: Jakarta-POI 1.10.0-dev released

2003-03-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
Thanks for trying but it doesn't exactly say HOW does one prepare a release such that it will/can be mirrored. -Andy Magesh Umasankar wrote: Glen can find some pointers here: http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=apache-httpd-devm=103578980325833w=2 Not trying to be picky, but in addition to

Re: Jakarta-POI 1.10.0-dev released

2003-03-04 Thread Kurt Schrader
Google says: http://www.apache.org/dev/mirrors.html -Kurt On Tue, 4 Mar 2003, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Thanks for trying but it doesn't exactly say HOW does one prepare a release such that it will/can be mirrored. -Andy Magesh Umasankar wrote: Glen can find some pointers here:

RE: Jakarta: too many similar projects?

2003-03-04 Thread Howard M. Lewis Ship
I don't know any of this stuff about Apache refusing a JSR. As I'm seeing it from my end, Jakarta looks to centralize good technologies, but only if a good community of developers and users are part of the deal. I suspect that this rejecting a JSR may come down to something like Sun trying to

Jakarta-POI 1.10.0-dev released

2003-03-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
While I was on my Western US tour, Glen cut the next dev release of POI. You may find it here: http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-poi/dev/src/ and http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-poi/dev/bin/ Why we skipped a release number, only Glen would know. :-) We do not yet follow

answer to Howard or State of the POI (WAS: Re: Jakarta-POI 1.10.0-devreleased)

2003-03-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
This is going to be another one of my long answers to a short question... I don't really attempt to measure this. It would be trivial to measure the number of downloads from the access logs; however, I prefer to mesure it subjectively. Note that its documented on the Jakarta site that

Re: Jakarta-POI 1.10.0-dev released

2003-03-04 Thread Andrew C. Oliver
The primary advantage of doing this was to simply to avoid confusion. When people say they are using 1.9 it's obvious that it was a nightly and not the milestone build. makes sense. Thats why you're the man. PS: Announcement to the announcement list is coming. cool. Note that I sent this