Re: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-29 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Oct 27, 2004, at 4:15 PM, Bernhard Fastenrath wrote: method pointers? closures? Is anybody going to suggest self-modifying java assembler code as a language feature? I don't really see how you got from method pointers and closures to self-modifying code (I see that as a bit of fear

Re: Future JDK features - performance and stability

2004-10-29 Thread Dain Sundstrom
+10 -dain On Oct 28, 2004, at 1:24 AM, Danny Angus wrote: This is a bit of a rant, I know but... One thing I would like to see Sun do, from the point of view of my previous role at work, would be to devote more effort to improving the stability and performance of the Hotspot VM on

Re: Deciding on Java futures?

2004-10-29 Thread Mark R. Diggory
Noel, How can we find out whats already planned by Sun. For instance, I'm sure us Commons Math folks would all like to see the Nist/Java Grande rectangular matrices issue finalized and implemented. http://jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=083 But its difficult to see if this is stalled or dead at this

What does implementation vis-a-vis, for example, JSF mean?

2004-10-29 Thread Dakota Jack
When someone talks, e.g., about an implementation of JSF (JavaServer Faces (JSR-127)), does this mean an implementation of the specs in the JSR? So, are the binaries at Sun an implementation in this sense? Jack -- You can't wake a person who is pretending to be asleep. ~Native Proverb~ Each

RE: What does implementation vis-a-vis, for example, JSF mean?

2004-10-29 Thread Matthias Wessendorf
Hi, When someone talks, e.g., about an implementation of JSF (JavaServer Faces (JSR-127)), does this mean an implementation of the specs in the JSR? So, are the binaries at Sun an implementation in this sense? yes, the RI is developed by SUN. In Apache there is also one. MyFaces moved

Re: Future JDK features - performance and stability

2004-10-29 Thread Danny Angus
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:11:03 -0700, Dain Sundstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +10 I make that 10 trillion. Did I hit a nerve there Dain? ! - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail:

Exception handling Was: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-29 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004, Dain Sundstrom wrote: I actually love closures, and think it would be a great addition to Java. I spend a lot of time tracking down poorly written try/finally blocks in people's code where they don't properly close DB connections, IO streams, Jar files, and even delete

Re: Future JDK features - performance and stability

2004-10-29 Thread Dain Sundstrom
On Oct 29, 2004, at 8:43 AM, Danny Angus wrote: On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 08:11:03 -0700, Dain Sundstrom [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +10 I make that 10 trillion. Did I hit a nerve there Dain? ! Yes! One thing that has been bugging me for years it the URLClassLoader on windows, locks the jars

Re: Exception handling Was: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-29 Thread sebb
On Fri, 29 Oct 2004 13:35:04 -0400 (EDT), Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Fri, 29 Oct 2004, Dain Sundstrom wrote: I actually love closures, and think it would be a great addition to Java. I spend a lot of time tracking down poorly written try/finally blocks in people's code

RE: Deciding on Java futures?

2004-10-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
How can we find out whats already planned by Sun. I asked that exact question, and was told that they don't want to bias our input by telling us what is already on the plan. FWIW, I know that some of the things are already on some plans there. There is a big meeting on Monday to address

Prioritizing

2004-10-29 Thread Noel J. Bergman
There has been a lot of good discussions. Now we need to prioritize the list. I have, as a strawman, started a prioritized list at the top of the page. I put Continutations at the top, since it had the most votes, and added a few others. Obviously, I'm not going to add everyone's item. Add

FW: RE: Exception handling Was: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-29 Thread Dan Lydick
A definite +1 for multiple exceptions in a catch{} block. I have had a number of times I have wanted to do this, but have had to create a private method and refer all catch{} blocks to it. Dan Lydick [Original Message] From: Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General

Re: Future JDK features - performance and stability

2004-10-29 Thread Dan Lydick
I can't run Javadoc 1.5.0 on my Win98 SE box. Got null pointer exception on working 1.4.2 source code in the standard doclet(see below). Had to revert to Javadoc 1.4.2, but then it wouldn't pick up the language updates. Oh well, at least I have the 1.5.0 startup improvements should I

RE: Exception handling Was: Future JDK features 2 items

2004-10-29 Thread Gary Gregory
try { } catch(JMSException, RemoteException, SQLException e) { } +1 (We used to have something like that in Smalltalk) Gary - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL