Hi,
I'm writing, at the recommendation of Stefano Mazzocchi, in hopes of
drawing discussion and perhaps later a vote on the creation of a new
Jakarta subproject based on the POI project (http://poi.sourceforge.net
http://sourcefoge.net/projects/poi).
The POI project consists of an API for
Sorry for the repost, I realized that I'd incorrectly labeled the
post a reply (re:) and thought some folks may have not seen it because
of that. A quick update, POI is the #10 project on sourceforge this
morning.
Hi,
I'm writing, at the recommendation of Stefano Mazzocchi, in hopes of
It sounds like your project is plenty successful where it is.
True. However, because the vision for the project involves and would
benefit both directly and indirectly several existing Apache projects, I
feel it would be easier to collaborate if POI was a Jakarta project.
The project will of
Hi Paulo,
IMO Andrew puts the finger on why POI is only used on a server.
good!
One of my 2 interests (the other is indexing)
on POI is exactly the
typical one he describes:
- I want to be able build Word and Excel documents on a Web Server
without going back to use MS IIS and COM
Not that I should have much of a role in this discussion but I'd like to
contribute some thoughts stemming from an offline discussion I had.
I think this discussion is still missing the point. There are a lot of
outsider articles on what is wrong with Apache these days, most of
them refer to
On 1/5/02 7:28 PM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I am not trying to be combative - I have watched this thread (and
participated) with growing discomfort. I have to say that I think that
bringing XML and Jakarta together might destroy the thing we are
supposedly
trying to 'save' (again, I
Answer inline
-Original Message-
From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 3:53 AM
...
I can not express this POV better than Linus did in posts reported
by
this article:
http://kerneltrap.org/article.php?sid=398
Any corporation
on 1/6/02 11:33 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I know you're supposed to be silent when you agree with stuff
Who said that?
-jon
I meant rather than a bunch of me-too ing. I thought I read that
somewhere once. Or maybe its because I have low oxygen to the brain
right
Kief Morris typed the following:
Andrew C. Oliver typed the following on 06:10 PM 1/6/2002 -0500
YANKEES PLEASE READ THIS:
Please come get your white stuff off of the ground and take it back up
North where it belongs. We have no need for it here in the South.
Yeah? Try it here
-Original Message-
From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 6:55 PM
On 1/6/02 12:58 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
...
If you start at the top of the thread, I declare I am playing devils'
advocate, and addressing the three
You need a search engine for these little things maybe off the main
page. With something catchy under it like High your software has
already been written for you...find it here. This would ecourage
useful javadoc comments as well. So if I type tree I should see all
the tree classes in the
On 1/6/02 9:51 PM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My apologies. I'll shut up now until my brain un-freezes. :-D
-Andy
Sheesh. Give southerners a dusting of snow and all goes pear shaped...
:)
Thats right... keep that white junk up there. We're not interested
Yeah RIGHT. Northern cars don't even HAVE blinkers!
When up north I drive real slow in the just left of the right lane
(avoid northern style kamikaze merges) with my hazard lights on going
about 70 (which must be below the minimum speed limit). BTW the north
to me starts just a little above
Guys,
This whole experience has become a bit disheartening. Craig McClanahan
who is like an idol of mine said this:
We will continue to do what we've done in the past -- reject projects
that
only want the name recognition value of being under Apache, and don't
have a development community
Have many developers does scarab have, 10? Jakarta has around 200
committers plus ten
times that many developers. At 200'000 USD per committer that's a
budget of 40'000'000
Whoa dude. I am SO doing something wrong. 200,000?
USD a year. I'd estimate the budget of an equivalently sized
I think many folks on
the list aren't listening to each other let alone to someone from the
outer circle.
That is my complaint about not just this list, but the entire project.
We
have people like Ted and Craig who are perfectly happy just sitting in
their
bubble sub-projects and doing
I know it's hard to tell from the convoluted way this thread have gone
back and forth, but the comment above was not intended to have
*anything*
to do with POI specifically, or the proposal to move POI to Apache.
It
was a response to Ceki's concern about how to keep Jakarta from being
just
For my own personal brace style I have adopted the KR are right rule.
I have brace tolerance though. (just like I have _variable
tolerance). There is one thing I have no tolerance for though: low
quality. (This is why I don't drink cheap American beer like that bad
knock off of the Czech
It's only two little lines extra to include the {}'s,
Yeah, but those two lines will make my code run slower.
Don't you know?
The less space your source code takes, the less space
your class file will take.
And smaller classes run faster.
It must be true - 90% of people I've worked
snip/
:)
Someone told me if you use a really small font like courier 6pt then
you don't even need an optimizing compiler.
Thanks to this conversation, I finally did think of a good reason to
use
braces on a separate line (which I detest, but that's just me) -- if
+1
your
manager judges
Tim Vernum wrote:
It's only two little lines extra to include the {}'s,
Yeah, but those two lines will make my code run slower.
Don't you know?
The less space your source code takes, the less space
your class file will take.
And smaller classes run faster.
Well, I could be
Personally,
While I don't have strong feeling about this, and a Mission statement is
what it is...
I don't know that commercial-quality is a positive thing these days.
Alternatively, I'd say high-quality. Its a stupid distinction I know
but I've used some duds that were supposedly
Pete,
Just a question. Maybe I missed this in the discussions. Every once
and a while the short license versus big license discussion goes
through here. Meaning the source code for some projects whether
correctly or incorrectly be convention uses a statement and short
reference to the license
Production quality sounds MUCH better to me!
Have fun,
Paulo Gaspar
Thats good. I like that.
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www.sourceforge.net/projects/poi - port of Excel format to java
http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4487555.html
- fix java
Proposal for POI - A Jakarta Subproject
version 1.0 - 17 Jan 2002
(0) rationale
The POI project seeks to provide pure Java APIs for reading, creating
and manipulating files written in formats based on Microsoft OLE 2
Compound Document Format. The POI project has already successfully
Hi,
I'm pretty sure this is the right place to post this.
Just a little nit to pick. (Worse for Marc who wondered where his posts
had gone to and why it wasn't refreshing).
Changed it so that archive for commons points to the current archive
and yet you can still get the old.
Why?
Its
Sorry if this has been answered, I've not run across the answer. I've
noticed a couple of projects' recent binary builds are named X.tar.gz
but are actually just straight tar files. Its a bit unwise IMO to name
tar files .tar.gz if they're not gzipped because dimwits like me type
tar xvzf on
Hi all,
Does anyone know the status of the lucene-dev mailing list archive?
(Let me know if I'm asking in the wrong place). The archive seems to
stop around 11/04/01. Any ideas?
-Andy
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www.superlinksoftware.com
www.sourceforge.net/projects/poi - port of Excel format to java
Thanks sam.
How do I make such updates take effect? (I mean once I check them in
can I make them show up too?)
-Andy
On Sat, 2002-01-26 at 19:49, Sam Ruby wrote:
User acoliver now has karma to jakarta-site2. Enjoy!
- Sam Ruby
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Thanks, both of you :-)
On Sat, 2002-01-26 at 20:20, Sam Ruby wrote:
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
If someone with a www account can make this active, I'd appreciate it.
Once that's done I can start transitioning people off of the old poi
mail archive and on to the new.
Done.
- Sam Ruby
On Sun, 2002-01-27 at 23:17, Peter Donald wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, 21 Jan 2002 07:38, Jeff Prickett wrote:
I would like to name the project Periodicity.
I would like to utilize the EJB architecture and support most of the
major EJB containers starting with JBoss of course.
I would like to
Wow. It truly baffles me why companies continue to use Outlook
despite the considerable cost of using what one Dr. Dobbs Journal
(I believe) editorial called A security hole with email features
-Andy
On Mon, 2002-01-28 at 05:33, Stephane Bailliez wrote:
-Original Message-
From:
extends...) you should be fine as long as you don't
distribute any components of the J2EE.
Thats AFAIK.
-Andy
On Mon, 2002-01-28 at 06:49, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
On 1/28/02 6:37 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Sun, 2002-01-27 at 23:17, Peter Donald wrote:
Hi,
On Mon, 21
Just my two cents worth. .. don't freeze your vision. Have one (we
have a very general one for POI plus some very specific ones for each
release), but you have to allow people to come in and say I want this
by 2.0 even if its a 4.0 for you.
For example we landed a very talented developer for
+1
On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 14:07, Scott Sanders wrote:
Comments inline...
-Original Message-
From: Endre Stølsvik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 4:02 AM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta??
|
h yummy. I've GOT to check out JAMES...
-Andy
On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 14:11, Scott Sanders wrote:
Calendar is much more apropos in JAMES IMHO. I think that JAMES could
become an Exchange killer :)
-Original Message-
From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 14:54, Endre Stølsvik wrote:
| As a complement to this: how is the deprecating system of
| Jakarta? If a project dies, that nobody seems to update it,
| the list dies or something like this, does it die away from
| Jakarta too?
|
| What would you like to see
On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 15:08, Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
on 1/29/02 11:54 AM, lloyd [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 14:22, Scott Sanders wrote:
Yes. I have been thinking that Exchange needs an OSS competitor.
Yes yes yes yes yes.
Why would anyone want to create an OSS
On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 15:07, Scott Sanders wrote:
Innovation is necessary. But duplication is also necessary for the
purpose of adoption. The only way to beat Exchange is to look like
Exchange. The innovation will then help, but only after the user thinks
that it *is* Exchange.
+ 1/2 -
client *choice* an integral part of it would be a
nice feature. I freaking hate outlook.
-Andy
On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 15:12, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 15:07, Scott Sanders wrote:
Innovation is necessary. But duplication is also necessary for the
purpose of adoption
On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 15:26, Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
on 1/29/02 12:07 PM, Scott Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Innovation is necessary. But duplication is also necessary for the
purpose of adoption. The only way to beat Exchange is to look like
Exchange. The innovation will then
On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 15:27, Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
on 1/29/02 12:06 PM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My issue is the places I
typically work if I could sell a drop in replacement for Exchange...heck
yeah cause then I wouldn't be forced to use that spamming virus ridden
On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 15:29, Scott Sanders wrote:
My goal is NOT to target other developers. My goal is to target users
that *HAVE* to have exchange because they:
1) *HAVE* to use Outlook.
2) *HAVE* to have real groupware capabilities (calendaring, etc.)
3) Refuse to give up Outlook for a
On Tue, 2002-01-29 at 15:44, Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
on 1/29/02 12:29 PM, Scott Sanders [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My goal is NOT to target other developers. My goal is to target users
that *HAVE* to have exchange because they:
1) *HAVE* to use Outlook.
2) *HAVE* to have real groupware
Oh and don't forget Lotus notes. Notes seems to be somewhat of a
deprecation, but had some app development features that are still used
in a lot of places. Modernize these and make them more web-ish and
you'd have something that would make a lot of folks very happy.
1. MIS Managers - $$$,
: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Tuesday, January 29, 2002 12:43 PM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: RE: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta??
Oh and don't forget Lotus notes. Notes seems to be somewhat
of a deprecation, but had some app development features
Dude, these are all clients. We're talking about EXCHANGE not OUTLOOK
or MAILBOX. I'm using evolution right this very moment. It doesn't do
what you say...its not a server AFAIK! It could connect to JAMES and
hopefully USE the features...but doesn't provide them serverside.
-Andy
On Tue,
My only issue and I guess this is directed more at you Jon, is it
doesn't give me a clear idea about what we want. Can you give me a
good idea and I'll be glad to submit a patch to that effect. It just
seems like we should be asking for something and being specific.
-Andy
On Wed, 2002-01-30
I still say we need to say This is what we want not just This is
f*cked up. I think we should follow similar rules as to writing a
letter of complaint (even if it has a certain Jon/Apache-like flare)
-Andy
On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 18:01, Scott Sanders wrote:
+1. + 1! Why should Apache be
Regarding subcategorizing the leftnav:
Okay, I'm showing ya'll this cause I said I'd do it but I don't want to
apply it cause I think it looks really crappy.
I don't yet know enough about velocity to try creating a submenu type
entity with a smaller font but I'm not so sure this could look good
second.
On Thu, 2002-01-31 at 08:27, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
I would like to nominate
- Jon Stevens
- Sam Ruby
for the upcoming PMC elections.
The reason is simple: nobody else has done more for jakarta.
Sure, they have diametrically different styles and attitudes, but this
the
Albeit at the expense of scalability
On Thu, 2002-01-31 at 09:51, Paulo Gaspar wrote:
I think that the key bit is:
and it is a mistake to try to program
as though a
remote call had the same characteristics as a local one.
Your app will always be more robust if you do NOT ignore the
That's awesome, I'll check that out!
On Thu, 2002-01-31 at 13:11, Scott Sanders wrote:
-Original Message-
From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:58 PM
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Subject: Re: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 04:14, James Strachan wrote:
Hi Jeff
I share your oppinions on EJB. Whenever I ask developers why they are using
EJB the common answer I get from people is 'well I get transactions for
free'. When most of the time they don't do 2 phase commit with their
database
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 06:44, Paul Hammant wrote:
Alex,
My experience is that people either immediately decide they like AltRMI
or strongly dislike it. One of my strongest critics (in commons mail
list) is coming round to it after much effort :-)
For many it is inline with something
of the Sun/Microsoft duopoly. (Yeah, yeah, there will always be people
who enjoy working on nonvirtual machines, but they're crazy :-)
I'm not completely sure I followed this. I was cool up until the above
line. Are you suggesting just a replacement for J2EE or Java itself.
I'm fairly
: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 7:03 AM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE considered harmful
Albeit at the expense of scalability
On Thu, 2002-01-31 at 09:51, Paulo Gaspar wrote:
I think that the key bit
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 08:27, Paulo Gaspar wrote:
This is getting interesting and we have e lot of pieces for this kind
of puzzle around Apache.
Why must standards be ruled just by the BigCo's???
De facto standards happen when a product is really good.
This reminds me how the then tiny
.
We keep trying to get as close to having them as possible but...
Have fun,
Paulo Gaspar
-Original Message-
From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
Sent: Friday, February 01, 2002 2:19 PM
To: Jakarta General List
Subject: RE: [OT] RE: J2EE considered harmful
Those are both search engines with non-critical data update issues. You
do need an example with more business-logic oriented type
functionality. I could mock something like those up with Lucene just
with a few routers and pushing the indicies to the mirrored systems.
This doesn't answer the
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 09:19, Alef Arendsen wrote:
I used to see J2EE and EJBs as the perfect solution to build scalable, maintainable
webapplications. Our companies has been moving away from the webapplications business
and we're completely focussing on delivering knowledge management
.
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
Those are both search engines with non-critical data update issues. You
do need an example with more business-logic oriented type
functionality. I could mock something like those up with Lucene just
with a few routers and pushing the indicies
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 11:07, Ted Husted wrote:
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 10:46, Ted Husted wrote:
yahoo.com goes way beyond a search engine:
Email, address books, auctions, classified ads, file storage, calendars
and shared calendars, personalized portals
(too bad I'll be boycotting Yahoo soon because they use pop-up ads which
I consider SOoo unprofessional)
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 11:00, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 11:07, Ted Husted wrote:
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 10:46, Ted Husted wrote
+1
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 17:16, Morgan Delagrange wrote:
I would like to nominate Craig McClanahan for re-election to the PMC.
Craig works on a lot more projects than I do (than _most_ people do), so I
cannot give a complete rundown of his accomplishments. I can say, however,
that his
Not very recently.
-1 on even having this discussion:
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html
it's offtopic.
-Andy
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 18:22, Bojan Smojver wrote:
I've noticed that not all recent e-mail messages from a few Jakarta
mailing lists had Reply-To header set back to the
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 19:44, Jeff Schnitzer wrote:
From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 09:19, Alef Arendsen wrote:
So what's the score? DotNet is the new Microsoft initiative, and -
as
always - they've perfectly imitated J2EE and have had a good
On Mon, 2002-02-04 at 09:18, Sam Ruby wrote:
Paul Hammant wrote:
What rules do you want changed?
1) Apache considering that GUI apps are legitimate targets for ASF
attentions.
2) If jakarta is not the place, then a foundary for GUI apps/comps/tools
These rules don't seem to be
On Mon, 2002-02-04 at 16:58, Kevin A. Burton wrote:
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Hash: SHA1
Sorry for the X-post.
Then don't do it.
I just created a new mailing list:
[EMAIL PROTECTED]
You can sign up here:
http://entropy.yi.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/java-is-dead
I thought the same of POI, but the most popular use case was claimed to be
on the server...
whoa, I'll shut up now less I forget which end is up again.
Every microsoft server requires a GUI, for example :)
And a rapid fire reset button.
--
Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Mon, 2002-02-04 at 20:12, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote:
On 2/4/02 8:00 PM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought the same of POI, but the most popular use case was claimed to be
on the server...
whoa, I'll shut up now less I forget which end is up again
On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 03:14, Peter Donald wrote:
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 11:38, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
Are you upset at the way Java is being handled by SUN?
Do you feel lied to about the fact that SUN is still keeping Java
proprietary even after they promised us for *years
Provided the senate does not avoid the forum less they loose site of the
plebs.
-Andy
On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 07:14, Ted Husted wrote:
I wonder how people would feel about moving the actual PMC business to
another list, like Jakarta-Meeting. It's obvious that we need a General
list for open
On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 11:24, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
on 2/4/02 1:58 PM, Kevin A. Burton [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I created the java-is-dead mailing list to address these issues.
Note that this mailing list is a place to help fix things. The
On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 14:47, Peter Donald wrote:
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 23:41, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
On Tue, 2002-02-05 at 03:14, Peter Donald wrote:
On Tue, 5 Feb 2002 11:38, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
Are you upset at the way Java is being handled by SUN?
Do you feel lied
snip/
Become a strategist. There will always a need for people telling people
what they should do next. At least for people that does not read these
lists. ;)
Where do I sign? :-) I'm always happy telling people what they should
do next ;-).
-Andy
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www.superlinksoftware.com
Hi All,
I added POI to the jakarta site. Can someone with appropriate karma
update the site on the www server.
I regret having to point the links to poi.sourceforge.net. The new site
is currently being hosted there. Being in limbo isn't very good for a
project, been there for a few weeks
Hi All,
I added POI to the jakarta site. Can someone with appropriate
karma
update the site on the www server.
I regret having to point the links to poi.sourceforge.net. The new
site
is currently being hosted there. Being in limbo isn't very good for
a
project, been there for a few
Sorry Geir,
You weren't actually supposed to be the subject of that message...oops.
:-)
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www.superlinksoftware.com
www.sourceforge.net/projects/poi - port of Excel format to java
http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4487555.html
- fix java generics!
No - the idea is that if your site content is in CVS, we can just make
a
done:
module = jakarta-poi
target = docs
dir= build/jakarta-poi/docs
(-r)
subdir under jakarta, and then do a cvs checkout of your site right
there.
So you and the rest of the POI committers update right into your
I'm not sure I'm against this idea entirely... Just who is going to pay
for it? VA has massive hardware behind Sourceforge (and its still down
all the damn time). How do you do Apacheforge on far less boxen without
whats left of VC money and probably an IPO?
All of the other issues are little
I think idiot was chosen because the person would have had to browse
past the mail page with all the rules and then go to the other page. So
had they taken the time to read any of the first page, then they'd have
known where to post.
Anyone object to me moving the general list to the bottom
Hi all,
quick proposal... does anyone object to me moving [MISC] Who we are? bla
bla bal to the TOP of the sidebar and renaming it [ABOUT]?
Rationale: the MISC trivializes the information and says don't read
me. If community is more important than codewhy is the code above
the community
On Sat, 2002-02-23 at 11:01, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
It is interesting that I made a similar proposal (or rather described
the same idea) just yesterday on an unrelated mailing list, with the
normal excuse of being too busy right now to start working in this
direction (
Open Source Developer Stoned for Praising .NET
http://bbspot.com/News/2002/02/stoned.html
-Andy
--
www.superlinksoftware.com
www.sourceforge.net/projects/poi - port of Excel format to java
http://developer.java.sun.com/developer/bugParade/bugs/4487555.html
- fix
I think its universally accepted that JSP sucks. I don't think anyone
can hold an intelligent argument to the contrary (unless the typical
corporate developer competency argument is used). That being said..I'm
not sure this is the forum for such arguments. I'd like to invite you
to the
There lies your problem Michael. . . Jakarta (believe it or not)
doesn't want code they want communities of developers. If your
interested in having a Jakarta project (and have Really thick skin and
some patience;-) ) you probably will have to start it somewhere else
(POI for instance started
On Sun, 2002-02-24 at 10:30, Ted Husted wrote:
Leo Simons wrote:
2) a statement of intent in important places on the website.
I'm guessing that putting we would like to see tomcat
integrate with avalon on the projects' respective websites
would mean that such will happen sooner.
My
On Sun, 2002-02-24 at 12:42, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
Ted Husted wrote:
My concern would be that this promotes a We are Borg attitude.
This is exactly why I think setting up a separate project would be a
good idea. A project that would realize the concept of a platform that
uses
On Sun, 2002-02-24 at 09:55, Ted Grzesik wrote:
Folks,
I believe the apache 2.0.32 server (i.e. the server jakarta site is
using) has a bug. I thought I would report it here because of the close
affiliation to the apache organization. Also, this is affecting the
ability of the Jakarta
Open Enterprise Distribution ... I'm bigger into descriptive names that
mean something when they don't cause lawsuits...
:-)
You asked... What's in a name?
-Andy
On Sun, 2002-02-24 at 13:52, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
On Sun, 2002-02-24 at 12:42, Andrus Adamchik
I keep telling you:
http://www.digitalmars.com/d/
Get this guy to release it APL and then we can get up and go!
:-)
-Andy
On Sun, 2002-02-24 at 04:28, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
James Duncan Davidson wrote:
On 2/5/02 08:24, Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
My position:
You laugh...
IT HAS BEEN PROPOSED!!!
http://www.mail-archive.com/cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org/msg10094.html
On Sun, 2002-02-24 at 15:20, Craig R. McClanahan wrote:
On Sun, 24 Feb 2002, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:
Gosh, I think I'll have to write my own programming platform one day to
Yes! Actually Apache is funded fully by Microsoft and its all been this
big farce.. We'll be close sourcing everything and handing it back to
Bill! Don't worry, Soon we'll have Microsoft leadership for the whole
group!
-Andy
On Sun, 2002-02-24 at 16:45, Micael Padraig Og mac Grene wrote:
Do
We did this originally for POI and used Marc/me and the POI
contributers. I just got each to agree that it could be transferred to
ASF before accepting donations. (because POI was originally intended to
all be part of cocoon but that is a really long boring story)... I'm
not sure of all of the
another similar work you might want to look at
http://freshmeat.net/projects/jmp/
Of course it doesn't run on toy operating systems ;-), but collaboration
is a good thing.
-Andy
On Tue, 2002-02-26 at 07:16, Michael Pan wrote:
Hi,
My name is Michael Pan and I'd like to announce about
Hi All,
I committed a few changes to the POI website (new committers, new high
level
components, etc) a week ago or so and so far these haven't rolled over
to
the website. Can someone with httpd access update it please?
Thanks,
Andy
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Now that the website is updated...
Could Someone help us get bugzilla setup for POI?
(sorry to be so demanding... :-) )
Thanks,
-Andy
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http://jakarta.apache.org - port of Excel/Word/OLE 2 Compound Document
format to java
Hi All,
Another question:
The POI committers have been
suckered^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H^H agreed to do an interim
production-level release (1.5) in the near future in order to reflect
the new packaging, capture a number of bug fixes and enhancements, etc
etc.
How do we get
:-)
On Fri, 2002-03-01 at 17:31, Peter Donald wrote:
On Sat, 2 Mar 2002 09:29, Peter Donald wrote:
on codejakarta.apache.org/code. If no one has permission to do that
then you can ask for permission or get someone else to do it.
Note to self. When writing Javadocs use HTML tags, when
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