Re: general Digest 12 Apr 2001 19:55:17 -0000 Issue 349

2001-04-13 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
The two somewhat workable times are 1200 GMT and 2000 GMT. I'd like to hear opinions on the following two options: Sorry for the belated reply -- digest mode and 16 hour work days. Either time will work for me (I'm on EDT, which appears to get the best deal). daniel

bug report handling

2001-04-27 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
Please ignore the who part of my previous email as has been kindly pointed out to me I should have just used the view bug activity option. However, the spurious changing of bug status part of my email holds. Can just anyone change a bug's status? If so, that's a problem that we need to fix.

Re: [Bug 1346] Changed - substitue gives strange result

2001-04-27 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
Sorry for hitting three lists, but it's the only way to root out the culprit. Who changed the status of this bug (the one at the end of this message) to VERIFIED? Why weren't any comments added? Unless someone points out the capturing parentheses in the expression (all appear to be

Re: Proposed dirlayout document

2001-05-08 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
IMHO, the intermediate build directory can and should be avoided. Instead of s electively copying from the intermediate build/ directory to dist/, one can ge nerate directly to dist/ and use tar/zip selectively to create the distributio n. The latter solution keeps just one copy of files which

Re: [proposal] Jakarta Deprecation Policy

2001-05-15 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
What I propose is that we take this document (or one similar to it) and migrate it up to the overall Jakarta Project instead of just being a Turbine policy and get all the projects to sign their name on it. http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/deprecation.html +1 Comments? Nothing controversial

site/bindindex.xml

2001-05-23 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
/binindex.xml patch Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/mixed ; boundary===_Exmh_14427391380 Date: Wed, 23 May 2001 00:41:33 -0400 From: Daniel F. Savarese [EMAIL PROTECTED] X-Spam-Rating: h31.sny.collab.net 1.6.2 0/1000/N Hi, Could someone please either apply this patch to site/binindex.xml

Re: What are we doing in regards to JDK 1.4?

2001-06-21 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
I've been playing with regex along with the nio classes and I must say that they integrate with each other extremely well. You must try out some of the new api's to fully appreciate the performance gains you will get from their new SocketChannel/ByteBuffer approach to networking. The regex

Re: Proposal to make BSF an ASF project

2001-06-22 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
Pier P. Fumagalli wrote: Sam Ruby at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig R. McClanahan wrote: +1 for BSF as a Jakarta project. Ditto. Doh :) +1 Pier Re me +1 geir +1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-05 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
[ ]Jon Stevens -0 It seems like xml.apache.org should be the place, but I really don't care where it lives that much cause we can always move projects around if we need to. I do think that if it goes to xml.apache.org it should be a top level project. I feel about the same. xml.apache.org

Re: Reply-to munging

2001-07-10 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
HELL YES! That essay conveys *exactly* what I was thinking. I love it. Thanks for the link. I'm saving that one forever. Me too. It did a great job of capturing the vacuous nature of each argument in the original essay. I took the liberty of adding a neutral statement with links to both

Re: jakarta-site2 process changes needed (heads up)

2001-07-20 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message Pine.BSF.4.21.010729190.28386-10@localhost, Craig R. McCl anahan writes: doesn't happen again, and also update the permissions to add group write on the following files: ... mail.html (dfs owner) Fixed. Sorry. I'm usually pretty meticulous about permissions. daniel

Re: Contact info...

2001-07-20 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Pier P. Fumagalli writes: Trying to send mail to Daniel F. Savarese [EMAIL PROTECTED], but all I get are bounces... Anyone has different contact info? Send it to dfs at apache.org and it will forward to me. I'm overly aggressive about blocking mail from relays

Scope

2001-07-28 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
I'm a loss to understand the problem. People assert that projects are out of scope yet also assert how much they like them. Is it not better to generate good code that lots of people use than to nitpick about staying in scope? If Jakarta is home to a bunch of projects that people think are

Re: Scope

2001-07-28 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sam Ruby writes: Duplication (e.g., multiple templating technologies) doesn't bother me so much as different focus. An RDB is a big endeavor. I'm sorry, I didn't indicate that I wasn't addressing the RDB proposal, but rather the ancillary comments about Ant,

Summary (was Re: Scope)

2001-07-29 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
I don't know how useful this thread has been to everyone else, but it's been helpful to me because I was starting to feel I misunderstood the spirit of the Jakarta project. I think it might be useful to add these extracts from the thread as addenda to Creation of subprojects on

Re: Summary (was Re: Scope)

2001-07-29 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ted Husted writes: And, oops, I just realized that I never promoted the working draft of the guidelines http://jakarta.apache.org/site/proposal.html to the top level of the site. Assuming that's still OK, I'll go ahead and do that. Perhaps I should also add

Re: [OT] FW: Sun Headquarter Briefings: Developing Web Services

2001-08-08 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Jon Stevens writes: Can someone explain to me what the heck web services are so that I can decide whether or not this is even worthwhile to learn about? Right now it's mostly vapor, at least on the Sun ONE end of things. Too many of the Java APIs related to Web

Re: [VOTE] Making Commons-Cactus a top level projet

2001-09-13 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
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Re: [PROPOSAL] New Project Creation Guidelines

2001-10-19 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
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Re: [Vote] BCEL @ Jakarta

2001-10-23 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
I finally caught up on the whole BCEL thread. +1 daniel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ASPizer

2001-10-17 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ceki Gulcu writes: Coming back to the issue at hand, if ASPizer authors are truly committed to open source and the Apache model, they should counter Jon's remarks and justify the reasons why their product should be part of Jakarta. ... I did not read anyone but Jon

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Ted Husted writes: The license issue is well taken. I think it would be a good practice for us to include a license in all of our JARs. Even when we don't distribute them seperately ourselves, they are intended to be distributed seperately by our licensees. Point

Re: [PROPOSAL] Jakarta PMC bylaws change

2002-01-16 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Sam Ruby writes: The number of PMC seats will be set at seven. Annually, all seven seats will be up for renewal. The ASF board will be asked to provide a person or persons to administer the nominations and a subsequent ballot. The administrator(s) will determine

Re: [PROPOSAL] POI @ Jakarta

2002-01-17 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andrew C. Oliver writes: Proposal for POI - A Jakarta Subproject version 1.0 - 17 Jan 2002 ... +1 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Jakarta ORO NetComponents or some other Java FTP API?

2002-01-18 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: I'm trying to get in touch with the Jakarta PMC to find out what the status is of accepting Daniel Savarese's ORO NetComponents to be part of Jakarta. Also, No proposal has been made. As I indicated on my web site, before making any

Re: Jakarta ORO NetComponents or some other Java FTP API?

2002-01-18 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Daniel F. Savares e writes: time to NetComponents because I don't use it and would redesign and rewrite it if I did. There appear to still be a lot of people using Rather, I don't use it much because of the types of projects I work on these days. Didn't mean to

Re: ApacheForge

2002-02-19 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Paul Hammant writes: I like the idea of a seperate, but endorsed ApacheForge site. It would give i) Encouragement ii) Independance but also iii) Community. I think it is a good and safe solution to what I think is the catch-22 situation of trying to get a

Re: POI web update

2002-03-03 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andrew C. Oliver writes: Hi, We've committed a number of changes to the POI site. If someone with requisite karma could apply this on the http server we'd appreciate it. I just did a cvs update in /www/jakarta.apache.org/poi on daedalus. A bunch of the files

Re: jakarta-site2 update (please)

2002-03-09 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andrew C. Oliver writes: Announced new POI pre-release.. . please update site-2 -- thanks done -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

[OT] JCP rant

2002-03-21 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
Somebody asked on the axi-user mailing list why they should use Axis instead of JAXM. I offered some comments, but tried not to stray too off topic. In light of a recent JCP-related thread, I thought there might not be any objections on general@jakarta if I vented for a minute. When you use

JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation (fwd)

2002-03-22 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
Hot off the press: --- Forwarded Message From: Harold Ogle [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] JCP Program Chair responds to Apache Software Foundation: The Apache Software Foundation published a position statement

Re: Did somebody update the Jakarta site directly?

2002-03-28 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED] bm.com, Sam Ruby writes: http://www.apache.org/~rubys/updatesite.log4 Note the mod to 'whoweare.html and the errors in poi... I did a fresh checkout of jakarta-site2 and edited xdocs/whoweare.xml last night, did the usual build docs/whoweare.html, and checked in

Re: News Page Problems

2002-04-07 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Kur t Schrader writes: It seems that whomever updated http://jakarta.apache.org/site/news.html last somehow managed to generate it in such a way so that it has two menus, instead of just one. The jakarta-site2 build from CVS appears to work correctly though, so

Re: [PATCH] http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html broken url

2002-04-10 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Santiago Gala writes: Santiago Gala wrote: I have enough karma for xml/html committing, but not for ssh to the web machine. So, could anybody with enough karma update the site? I just did a cvs update mail2.html, but it doesn't look like there was any change

jakarta-site2 graffiti

2003-01-02 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
Who's the joker who changed some of the copyright statements at the bottom of some pages in jakarta-site2 from Apache Software Foundation to ApacheARSE Software Foundation? I just noticed it when I updated site/binindex.html and ran a diff before doing a check in. Doing some further checking,

Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003

2003-02-08 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], robert burr ell donkin writes: (here's some bits and pieces from the commons.) Jakarta Commons === Although the newsletter is for January, here's another item for Jakarta Commons from February (Commons committers feel free to ammend this entry): Near

Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003

2003-02-08 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Daniel F. Savarese writes: Although the newsletter is for January, here's another item for Jakarta Commons from February (Commons committers feel free to ammend this entry): Looks like I made some typing turds. Here's a corrected version: Near the end of January

Re: Another unused import statement report is out...

2003-02-26 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Hen ri Yandell writes: Basically. Except it's: Fred fred = (Fred)doSomething(); in some cases. Shouldn't you actually do something with the result as a precaution to ensure the assignment doesn't get optimized out (either by the JIT or the compiler)? (Or make

Re: Another unused import statement report is out...

2003-02-26 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Tom Copeland writes: assertTrue(Whoa, doSomething returned a non-Fred type!, doSomething() instanceof Fred); I retract my comment about needing to do something with the variable. Tom's comment here, in my opinion, is the best approach. daniel

Re: answer to Howard or State of the POI (WAS: Re: Jakarta-POI 1.10.0-dev released)

2003-03-04 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andrew C. Oliver writes: Next, I measure the success of it by two other things: Microsoft's ... Microsoft sort of way) and the final crux will be the day this http://www.tidestone.com/index.jsp goes out of business. The first clue I don't think this is an

[VOTE] ORO 2.0.8 maintenance release

2003-12-23 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
I know now may not be the best time to have a vote, but I would ask the PMC to vote on approving the release of jakarta-oro 2.0.8. The current code base contains important bug fixes and has gone too long without a public release. [ ] +1 I approve the release of jakarta-oro version 2.0.8. [ ] -1

[RESULT][VOTE] ORO 2.0.8 maintenance release

2003-12-28 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
The resolution to approve a 2.0.8 maintenance release of jakarta-oro has passed with 4 binding +1 votes from Jakarta PMC members and no -1 votes. Many thanks to all who voted. I will now proceed to package and upload a release for distribution, update appropriate Web pages, and email an

Re: [RESULT][VOTE] ORO 2.0.8 maintenance release

2003-12-30 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
Now I see it went just to general pmc, because I was following on the informative re-broadcast, so this is the reason why it has not been counted. No, I screwed up. I remember counting your vote and verifying bindingness against the committee file, but screwed up and didn't record it because

[CORRETION][RESULT][VOTE] ORO 2.0.8 maintenance release

2003-12-30 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
The original vote tally for this vote was incorrectly listed as 4 +1 binding votes. There were in fact 5 +1 binding votes. The restated results follow: - The resolution to approve a 2.0.8 maintenance release of jakarta-oro has passed with 5 binding +1 votes from Jakarta PMC members and

Re: Updating the PMC bylaws

2004-08-09 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], robert burr ell donkin writes: that's why i would prefer something more positive. i'd prefer something about mandating the pmc to take action to ensure appropriate supervision when the number of active committers on the pmc falls below three. this could mean

Re: SVN of ECS Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Updated: JakartaBoardReport-September2004

2004-09-22 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Henri Yandell writes: Well, do we know who would be the one to accept the offer? I made a dump of jakarta-oro in ~dfs/pub/oro.svn.dump. I can't do svnadmin load --parent-dir jakarta-oro /x1/svn/test oro.svn.dump because you need to be in the svnadmin group. If

Re: SVN of ECS Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Updated: JakartaBoardReport-September2004

2004-09-24 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Noel J. Bergman w rites: Done. Thanks Noel! I know these things are normally supposed to go through infrastructure, but I thought I could test it out in the test repository without troubling anyone first. Everything looks good and doing the conversion even helped

Re: CVS-SVN Was: SVN of ECS

2004-09-26 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Henri Yandell writes: 2 - Going with the example of trunk/tags/branches/site, I'd like to suggest using releases/ rather than tags/. It seems closer to what we mean. Tags does seem more common though, so just a suggestion. ... - jakarta/ tomcat/ trunk/

Re: Dormancy worries

2004-12-28 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
I'm not a fan of the mothballing concept as I understand its proposed implementation, but I agree that some process for officially relegating a project to maintenance mode may be necessary. In some sense, projects like oro and regexp have been victims of their own success. Both moved into

Re: [VOTE] Release Regexp 1.4

2005-08-12 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Vadim Gritsenko writes: and vote for a release. +1 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PROPOSAL] Two community proposals

2006-03-06 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Henri Yandell writes: 1) Remove SVN restrictions, all Jakarta committers can commit anywhere in Jakarta, with the exception of the Commons-Sandbox as it allows Apache committers in general to commit. 2) All vote threads to occur on the general@ mailing list; or

Re: Representing project inactivity on the site

2006-03-06 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Yoav Shapira writes: I do care, a lot, as a user. Active means bugs are getting fixed, the mailing lists are a reasonable source for help, and if new standards I think that's a reason why perhaps a finer gradation than inactive and active may be in order. For

Re: Representing project inactivity on the site

2006-03-06 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Henri Yandell writes: Active Development Maintenance Mode Unsupported I think you nailed it. Active, Supported, and Unsupported. Or Active, Inactive (Supported), and Inactive (Unsupported). Anyway, whatever the specific names end up being, that's the gist of it.

Re: [VOTE] Remove SVN restrictions

2006-03-27 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Henri Yandell writes: Vote to remove the SVN barriers within Jakarta such that all jakarta-* groups are merged into the one jakarta group with the exception of jakarta-hivemind, jakarta-slide, jakarta-cactus and jakarta-jmeter under the assumption that they are

Re: Tracking Jakarta Software Dependencies

2006-09-12 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], =?ISO-8859-1?Q?Ortwin_Gl=FCck?= writes: JDK version: what a mess. IMHO this is THE information that is missing on almost ANY project page out there. I think everyone's responses have brought this topic to closure. Library dependencies are already available from most

Re: [PROPOSAL] Create [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailinglist..

2007-03-03 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Martin van den Bemt writes: The strength of this list should be is that with a lot of hands the chance tha t nothing happens when there is activity is minimized. If someone has an hour to spare, it could very well be useful to apply a patch and mentor people. Vadim

Re: [PROPOSAL] Create [EMAIL PROTECTED] mailinglist..

2007-03-03 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Andrew C. Oliver writes: lists. (If you disagree look at the list archive for each over the last 6 months and see if you REALLY disagree in more than THEORY). At least for oro, some Linux distributions continue to ship it as part of their core packages. For

Re: [VOTE] Release Regexp 1.5

2007-03-14 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
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Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-08 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
[X] +1 I support the proposal [ ] +0 I don't care [ ] -1 I'm opposed to the proposal because... - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [VOTE] Commons moving to TLP

2007-05-26 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Roland Weber writes: Rory Winston - was added by Daniel Savarese Torsten Curdt - was added as chair by Henri Yandell Rory voted for the proposal so I saved him the time and redundancy when I added myself after voting for the proposal. I assume Henri did the same

Re: [PROPOSAL] The future of Jakarta

2007-05-27 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message [EMAIL PROTECTED], Henr i Yandell writes: Chiefly, we need to decide if we're sending the Commons proposal. The We decided already to submit the Commons proposal by virtue of the vote result. I suggest we uphold the current decision and submit the proposal in order to make some

Re: [PROPOSAL] One development list

2009-10-09 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message ce1f2ea80910091443t5cad1db0na0663c416cb83...@mail.gmail.com, Rahul Akolkar writes: We currently have 8 active development lists at Jakarta, each devoted to a subproject. I've been subscribed to all for a while and based on my observations and the overall benefits of doing so, I think

Re: [PROPOSAL] One development list

2009-10-13 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message 4ad4c6e2.2090...@dubioso.net, Roland Weber writes: Have you noticed how much traffic there is on jmeter-user? It will easily drown all other communication on a combined user list. Subscribers to any other Jakarta user list will *not* be amused about getting all that into their inboxes.

Re: [VOTE] Merge dev lists

2009-10-19 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message ce1f2ea80910191302w30811450rdd7cbf66f9a1b...@mail.gmail.com, Rahul Akolkar writes: This is a vote to consolidate the development lists at Jakarta into one development and one notifications list. For background including timing, anticipated benefits and some discussion, see proposal

Re: New home for ECS, ORO and Regexp?

2010-03-11 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message 25aac9fc1003031751x7d696c4anfe502bc69979a...@mail.gmail.com, sebb writes: JMeter also uses ORO, but so long as the existing release remains available, it does not matter if it moves to Attic, as ORO works fine as it is. There are some RE features that it does not support (such as the

Re: [VOTE] Release JMeter 2.4 based on RC3

2010-07-13 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message aanlktinsqo5ip7ijrcwlr6pbmydrrmjpu0exskkeg...@mail.gmail.com, sebb AT ASF writes: Please can I have votes for the release of JMeter 2.4? [X ] +1 I support this release daniel - To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: New home for ECS, ORO and Regexp?

2010-07-16 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message aanlktinvmhsax0b7ehn9z6pbslrxqcaefaccyjowm...@mail.gmail.com, Rahu l Akolkar writes: Daniel (or anyone else) - Should we check if there is interest at Commons in taking ORO? I'm reluctant to encourage additional expenditure of effort to keep ORO going (although I'm always available to

Re: removing attic'ed projects from www.apache.org/dist

2011-03-11 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
I wrote: Whatever the case may be, I'd still like to remove www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/{ecs,oro,taglibs} if there are no objections. ... that in?), I can remove the Downloads link from the oro and ecs pages. Since there were no objections, I executed the above actions. daniel

Re: [RESULT][VOTE][LAZY] Move ECS, ORO and Regexp to Attic

2011-03-11 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message AANLkTinRs=hkw5jfz5aqww-g9xwbvcg84lrdogfgm...@mail.gmail.com, Rahu l Akolkar writes: We will not move Regexp at this time as vgritsenko has expressed some interest in a recent bugfix (his vote to move Regexp to the Attic was +0). Lets revisit Regexp in 6 months time if there isn't much

Re: [VOTE][LAZY] Move Jakarta Regexp to Attic

2011-03-22 Thread Daniel F. Savarese
In message AANLkTimNnqBrnYQX=OB=1+1w8fmntecydlqcw+um6...@mail.gmail.com, Rahu l Akolkar writes: This is a vote to move Jakarta Regexp to the Apache Attic, based on the outcome of the most recent discussion on the topic. +1 -