Help (was: RE: Controlling email misuse)

2001-04-27 Thread Danny Angus
Help us please ! the James-user list is being swamped with the same message over and over. Who is the moderator? -Original Message- From: Charles Benett [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, April 27, 2001 10:20 AM To: Jakarta Subject: Controlling email misuse How do we get

RE: The Lie

2001-06-07 Thread Danny Angus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Hmm, We produce solutions based on open source software (notably Linux/Apache ;-) and sell it into commercial companies. He's just plain wrong about that part. -BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE- Version: PGPfreeware 7.0.3 for non-commercial use

RE: The Lie

2001-06-08 Thread Danny Angus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Pete wrote: I am not sure this is true - at least in the US and Australian law. This was told me by a lawyer over here: In Scotland, the authors of open source and public domain software could be liable where there is no printed licence

RE: Reply-to munging

2001-07-11 Thread Danny Angus
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I expect the list to behave the way it does .. -Original Message- From: Peter Donald [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Tuesday, July 10, 2001 11:23 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Reply-to munging On Wed, 11 Jul 2001 02:36,

RE: ASPizer

2001-10-18 Thread Danny Angus
I've followed this thread with interest, I have to say that I think the move to open source for a product has to be independant of any other action. If you aren't commited to releasing your product under an open source licence without the support of Apache it does seem suspicious. If your OS

RE: Standardized jar manifest entries? (Re: How do you version jar files?)

2001-11-16 Thread Danny Angus
I will, ta, although I'm in danger of getting sucked so deep into Jakarta stuff that I lose sight of *my job* ! -Original Message- From: Vincent Massol [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November 16, 2001 3:31 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Standardized jar manifest

RE: Cross site scripting

2001-11-20 Thread Danny Angus
-Original Message- From: Jon Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sadly, it seems that the Java world really hasn't taken the cross site scripting issues seriously. snip How are you currently dealing with these issues? What is your favorite way to escape things? Do you

RE: Cross site scripting

2001-11-20 Thread Danny Angus
scripting on 11/20/01 7:43 AM, Danny Angus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: filter everything for public consumption its safest, its not just SCRIPT you have to watch out for its also pernicious things like P onMouseOver=foo(); which may not work often, but you don't want it to *ever*, and who

RE: Cross site scripting

2001-11-20 Thread Danny Angus
-Original Message- From: Jon Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Part of the problem with this security hole is that, for some reason, it is hard for a lot of people to even get a basic comprehension of it (even though it is so well documented). I think that is why a lot of people

RE: Cross site scripting

2001-11-20 Thread Danny Angus
Craig wrote: That seems like a lot of extra work, and is unnecessary if all the dynamic output is processed appropriately. out of curiosity why do you say that, the unnecessary part? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL

RE: Cross site scripting

2001-11-21 Thread Danny Angus
Craig wrote: I don't know of any generic solutions to the getStrippedHtml() or removeScriptTag() methods you propose - but are they still necesary if you do the getEscapedHtml() processing on everything? from my experience no would be the answer. furthermore simply removing script tags only

RE: Cross site scripting

2001-11-21 Thread Danny Angus
Ok, you're right! d. -Original Message- From: Jon Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 5:52 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Cross site scripting on 11/21/01 4:09 AM, Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 11/21/01 6:59 AM, Danny

RE: Cross site scripting

2001-11-21 Thread Danny Angus
for a small API to help her/him do the dull hard work. (which I'm right behind) d. -Original Message- From: Danny Angus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Wednesday, November 21, 2001 6:57 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: RE: Cross site scripting Ok, you're right! d

RE: Cross Site Scripting holes abound

2001-11-26 Thread Danny Angus
Don't bother despairing about microsoft, bask in the smug feeling that your on the side of Right, and you've planted your banner on the moral high ground. ;-) -Original Message- From: Jon Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 25, 2001 9:43 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Code conventions

2002-01-04 Thread Danny Angus
Aside : does Sun use deviation from coding standards as an actionable HR issue? ;) On your resume, I see that you were terminated for cause at Sun? Yes, I created too many classes with the opening brace on a separate line... I don't know about sun, but we would certainly warn employees

RE: Code conventions

2002-01-04 Thread Danny Angus
Ceci wrote: The inability of the PMC to take initiative stems from the Apache voting process snip The current system snip is inappropriate for managing large projects like Jakarta. snip I agree with this, I've only been a commiter since the end of last summer, and have been surprised

RE: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

2002-01-08 Thread Danny Angus
Jon wrote: My opinion is that there are to many peers in the process and that is what is breaking Jakarta. This wasn't a problem until now. We are starting to explode under our own ever growing weight. I've been involved in other organisations that tried, from best intentions, to have a

Mission ...

2002-01-09 Thread Danny Angus
If Jakarta != java and/or Jakarta != server, (which appeared on this list a few days ago, but I cant find the original mail) then the mission statement is at odds with the project, which must at best create bad karma and at worst it broadcasts a misleading message about the project to the whole

RE: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

2002-01-10 Thread Danny Angus
Not necessarily true, I've worked on applications where a servers ability to dynamically create M$ documents is a cool feature, imagine a servelet which returned an xls workbook reporting on data from an ODBC datasource (maybe sales figures or contact details), people in M$ centered offices lap

[PATCH] project descriptions index.xml

2002-01-11 Thread Danny Angus
Hi, I like the table of descriptions, but have a patch for James' description .. cvs -z9 diff -u index.xml Index: index.xml === RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml,v retrieving revision 1.18 diff -u -r1.18 index.xml

RE: [PATCH] project descriptions index.xml

2002-01-11 Thread Danny Angus
] project descriptions index.xml OK, I'll probably be in there anyway tonight. Though, as Release Manager for James 2.0, I imagine you'll be getting your feet wet soon enough :) -Ted. Danny Angus wrote: Thanks, I may have, I didn't try, and I'm not ready to update the site in case I

RE: [PATCH] project descriptions index.xml

2002-01-12 Thread Danny Angus
Don't tempt fate jon, I've made grown sysadmins weep in their cocoa before now.. ;-) d. It isn't that hard and you can't screw up jakarta-site2 that easily -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Updating the site

2002-01-17 Thread Danny Angus
Oh good news I like Putty. -Original Message- From: Andy Armstrong [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 January 2002 23:26 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Updating the site I've updated this page http://jakarta.apache.org/site/cvsonwin32.html to reflect the fact that PuTTY, a free /

RE: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta??

2002-01-29 Thread Danny Angus
I'm not sure what to make of this discussion, except this, why would anyone expect a loose OS project like jakarta to be well organised, methodical and fair? Life's not fair, and bearing in mind that everyone involved has to do something else to earn a crust and spare time when they can for

RE: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta??

2002-01-30 Thread Danny Angus
That point is well made, but in our experience organisations large and small are looking. more than ever, to value for money from IT, and if you can sell a solution which does not break their M$ _desktop_ policy, people will increasingly accept apache products into an M$ server ENV. 'course the

RE: calendar splitting (was Re: ECS?? _TOP_ level project of Jakarta??)

2002-01-30 Thread Danny Angus
I think the best thing to do would be to have a standalone calendar backend, communicating with James as transport, As a James commiter I can see this as being a sensible route, James exposes the Mailet API which would provide hooks into the mail system for icalendar, or indeed any other

jkarta-site2

2002-02-04 Thread Danny Angus
Hi, I'm about to release James 2.0a2, and I'd like it to appear in news so two questions .. 1/ please can I have karma for jakarta-site2, Or would posting a Patch be quicker? 2/ if I add it to news xdoc do I also have to add it to index under headlines, and.. if I do that do I knock off the

FTP mirrors

2002-02-05 Thread Danny Angus
Hi, What would we need to do to get Jakarta mirrored alongside httpd, mod_perl etc. I've been setting up a few servers and ftp would be a real bonus. d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

automated nightly builds

2002-03-01 Thread Danny Angus
Hi, I was wondering how (if?) other projects (than james) manage automated nightly builds. I have a server that could do the checkout,building and upload. Does anyone have a shell script, ant script, or cron job I could rip-off? d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For

RE: JakartaOne?

2002-03-04 Thread Danny Angus
However, if there were sufficient items of interest Isn't two distinct spaces, one of which can serve alcohol enough? ;-) d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: StudioZ (was: Re: JakartaOne?)

2002-03-04 Thread Danny Angus
Pier (for free? Where's that nice scottish spirit of yours! :) Oi! we're listening ;-) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: ASL vs. GPL page?

2002-03-05 Thread Danny Angus
Pier wrote: That's why I wouldn't be that comfortable with a Why GPL sucks page... Political propaganda? Looks really like it... And IMO that's not what we're here to do... We're here to write software... +1 IMO The licence is there to empower us, its not a product, its a by-product of the

RE: [VOTE] ASL vs. GPL page: is this okay?

2002-03-07 Thread Danny Angus
Ceki are you sure? I think we definitely need a solid document countering the idyllic but false world depicted by the FSF. I agree with comments you have made already, about the importance of licence and legal to ASF, Jakarta, and individuals involved, but I'm still not convinced that

RE: [VOTE] ASL vs. GPL page: is this okay?

2002-03-07 Thread Danny Angus
you have the option of following the terms and conditions either of that version or of any later version published by the Free Software Foundation. If the Library does not specify a license version number, you may choose any version ever published by the Free Software Foundation. Sounds

RE: [VOTE] ASL vs. GPL page: is this okay?

2002-03-07 Thread Danny Angus
Ceki, My own personal experience indicates that if you first seek consesus before acting, you are likely to never get anywhere. Regards, Ceki Point taken, however in this case surely some degree of peer approval needs to be gained before people publicly express views as the views of the

RE: news@jakarta

2002-03-07 Thread Danny Angus
Or.. [EMAIL PROTECTED] .. leave those notes you're not sure if anyone reads or not. -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Thursday, March 07, 2002 9:53 PM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: news@jakarta On 3/7/02 4:48 PM, [EMAIL

RE: JakartaOne

2002-03-11 Thread Danny Angus
We could organise our own.. but where? I'm sure I could cope with a w/e in Paris in the Springtime :-) -Original Message- From: GOMEZ Henri [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Monday, March 11, 2002 10:19 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: RE: JakartaOne Any luck that a JakartaOne

RE: License issue (the come back)

2002-03-12 Thread Danny Angus
The last point is the only real problem IMHO. Basically, it forbids to export software in free world ennemy countries TM. I don't know if making somone from such a country able to download software from a website could be considered software exportation, but considering the technical

RE: SSL + soap message

2002-03-18 Thread Danny Angus
please read this http://jakarta.apache.org/site/idiot.html and read this again.. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html Particularly the section titled Do not cross post messages -Original Message- From: nomorems [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 March 2002 14:28 To: [EMAIL

RE: Jakarta Overview

2002-03-19 Thread Danny Angus
Hi all, It feels like Philipp has a downer on javadocs, perhaps he should contribute docs to those projects he feels are inadequate rather than just criticising, how many offers of documention contributions do the various projects receive compared to actual submissions? It also reads as a pretty

RE: Jakarta Overview

2002-03-22 Thread Danny Angus
Give me a two-line lowdown of what the stuff is, so that I can decide whether it is worth clicking on for my own part. Jakarta's cryptic names doesn't exactly say much, do they? Try and look at the front page for, admittedly a one liner, but one without subjective overtones, which doesn't

RE: Jakarta Overview

2002-03-22 Thread Danny Angus
Ted, I don't want to have an argument, and I'm not criticising Philipp for offering, nor for the effort he obviously put in. I do have some reservations with this particular page, which I'm not going to raise again, if anyones interested they've already read them. I would like to take you up on

RE: Jakarta Overview

2002-03-22 Thread Danny Angus
Hi, I'll try not to keep banging on about this, I know its not that important in the great scheme of Why We Are Here :-) but .. Yes, that is the Commit Then Review philosophy. You cannot prevent anyone from initially committing anything, but one it has been committed you can vote it down.

RE: Jakarta Overview

2002-03-22 Thread Danny Angus
Morgan, Your point about trust is well made, I think that its is the straw I was grasping for! I seem to have temporarily overlooked the fact that this whole edifice is glued together by trust already, and to not have a more explicit mechanism regarding the website made me neglect that.. d. --

RE: RE: Jakarta Overview

2002-03-22 Thread Danny Angus
Andy, Another good point, I do seem to have taken a robustly negative view of all this. Perhaps too much so. d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

FW: RE: RE: Jakarta Overview

2002-03-23 Thread Danny Angus
-Original Message- From: acoliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] -- I see a need for more integration documentation and top-down documentation. Jakarta isnt heirarchical, at all, and is in fact grossly federal, with member projects able to petition to join, cecede, be expelled. There

RE: Why Sun won't certify JBoss (was Re: Jakarta is not an open source project in the pure community sense anymore)

2002-03-23 Thread Danny Angus
Second, the price of the license will drop if independent implementations are allowed. For App Servers, I think the barrier of entry is in the difficulty implementating the spec not in the licensing. It's going to be JBoss, Weblogic, and Webspere for a long time. As such, BEA and IBM will

RE: Why Sun won't certify JBoss (was Re: Jakarta is not an open source project in the pure community sense anymore)

2002-03-25 Thread Danny Angus
I can verify this point; It is my understanding that huge corporations like banks (especially in france - they have trouble coming to BEA) will always come close to IBM due to their long time partnership snip JBoss would be into these corporations tomorrow, then they will face a problem

RE: Managing versions of Apache Jakarta software

2002-03-28 Thread Danny Angus
Pete Donald wrote: Anyways if there is a demand for this I can get it into the ant1.5 codebase earlier. I think what there ought to be a demand for is a Jakarta wide code of practice for declaring versions and dependancies, even if its only in documentation. I guess this just adds a

RE: Comments on the commons-logging API

2002-03-29 Thread Danny Angus
+1 We have to be Pro Choice. For better or worse its part of the way things are done. If there is to be one logging API it will emerge with least pain through natural wasteage. Abbot of Citeaux, leading the 13th Century crusade against the Albigensians thundered: “Kill them all, God will know

RE: Managing versions of Apache Jakarta software

2002-03-29 Thread Danny Angus
Morning, I wrote: I'm not qualified to put forward any suggestions Sam replied: I respectfully disagree. Thanks Sam, I'll now bore you with my own opinion, and see if you change your mind.. ;-) I believe that there are two conflicting forces at work within Jakarta regarding cross

RE: Managing versions of Apache Jakarta software

2002-03-29 Thread Danny Angus
So where does that leave us? Do you (Pete) believe that the work you're going to put into Ant2 and java versioning can address this satisfactorily in a generic way? What participation would it require from sub-projects wanting to adopt it? Should, perhaps, Jakarta be using our hard fought

RE: Managing versions of Apache Jakarta software

2002-03-29 Thread Danny Angus
There was a discussion about an enterprise distribution of jakarta and other open-source java technologies some time back on this list that resulted in starting oed project on SourceForge [which is pretty much dead at the moment :-( ]. Which may suggest that there's more to solving this

RE: Comments on the commons-logging API

2002-03-29 Thread Danny Angus
Now that you can (well, soon) legally implement JSR47's, you might was well support their interfaces and semantics, and then 'embrace and extend'. Just do the JSR47 stuff better :) Could Log4J now become an RI of JSR47 ? (I'm still not completely clear about all this..) -- To

RE: Managing versions of Apache Jakarta software

2002-03-29 Thread Danny Angus
It would be a real shame for the lack of an total automated solution to lead to the lack of a simple manual solution. If administrators can manually check the explicit version of a JAR, rather than comparing sizes/datestamps, that would be a major improvement over today. Correctly version

RE: Managing versions of Apache Jakarta software

2002-03-29 Thread Danny Angus
Task of a package creator is harder. (Here is a link with detailed information : http://www.rpm.org/max-rpm/ ) Thanks thats interesting.. I've been holding this idea for a while since you won't find volunteers to help unless you lead such an effort and get it at least to beta, and I am

RE: Managing versions of Apache Jakarta software

2002-03-29 Thread Danny Angus
Hi, (if this is getting too OT tell me to sling my hook) I just printed and read the jdk 1.3 optional packages versioning document (again) then found this .. http://java.sun.com/j2se/1.4/docs/guide/plugin/developer_guide/extensions.ht ml the section on Java Extensions Installation made

RE: Subproject Proposal - crossdb

2002-04-26 Thread Danny Angus
Can anyone compare/contrast features between this and Torque? That animated diagram! Torque has nothing like this. The price. Torque is Open Source, and can therefore be successfully adapted to suit the bizzare pecadilos of any organisation. From the site I can't see very much difference

RE: New Subproject proposal Config4J

2002-04-29 Thread Danny Angus
did anyone else get this sponsored link on the google jakarta results page? Jakarta - Are your business web sites and J2EE applications Unbreakable? www.oracle.com FREE Oracle High Availability Middleware Strategy Guide! Looks like someone is trying to poach our

RE: You guys are so funny.

2002-05-02 Thread Danny Angus
Jon said: On top of it, in *years*, no one has gone and replaced Jakarta-site2 with anything better. Sure, Craig did a XSLT stylesheet, but no one changed the main Jakarta site to use it and I still see new Anakia sites on Sourceforget.net all the time. Which, I believe, highlights a major

RE: Project Activity

2002-05-13 Thread Danny Angus
Sometimes lists are where the activity is, commits alone don't credit the essential design and planning effort put in by users commiters and non-commiters that shapes the product and maps its progress. d. This makes me think of all the projects on SourceForge that shoot up high into the

[EGO]RE: Advertisement using Apache lists

2002-05-14 Thread Danny Angus
But I'm not just interested in the Jakarta projects Well you should be. They're all great, and we're all great guys. d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

is DNS ok?

2002-05-14 Thread Danny Angus
11:01:34 Request from 192.168.0.3 for MX-record for jakarta.apache.org. 11:01:34 Sending request to ns.hyperreal.org. (209.133.83.22) for MX-record for jakarta.apache.org. 11:01:34 Reply from 209.133.83.22 about MX-record for jakarta.apache.org.: 11:01:34 - Answer: No Matching Records

RE: is DNS ok?

2002-05-14 Thread Danny Angus
Oh, ok. I thought that trying the A record was a last-ditch attempt once every means of getting an MX record had failed. d. -Original Message- From: Pier Fumagalli [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 14 May 2002 13:55 To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: is DNS ok? Danny Angus

RE: [IMPORTANT] What actions can the ASF take to enforce copyright?

2002-05-16 Thread Danny Angus
there is a link in the text at the bottom of the front page.. http://www.apache.org/foundation/licence-FAQ.html -Original Message- From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 16 May 2002 15:28 To: Jakarta General List Subject: RE: [IMPORTANT] What actions can the ASF take

RE: [VOTE] New Committer Dan Sandberg

2002-05-24 Thread Danny Angus
I'm sorry, but I believe that any time a new committer is made, we _need_ to put some thought in what we're giving away, we're not just letting a guy commit to our CVS server... +1 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL

RE: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...

2002-05-26 Thread Danny Angus
+0 I like this, I think it is needed, as it should help to extend the experience and knowledge of the community by acknowledging the services of non-coders. I believe, though, that as sub-projects grow we will eventually need to address the issue of scope, but in the meantime this would be an

RE: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...

2002-05-28 Thread Danny Angus
I agree with andy to an extent here: I do NOT think developers should be granted CVS access without voting rights. But do still believe that there ought to be a more restrictive set of permissions, and responsibilities, for entry level sub-project membership, if entry level members buy-in

RE: Reorganizing to support mirroring

2002-05-29 Thread Danny Angus
Any thoughts on the best way to achieve this smoothly :-) ? I'm really in favour of this, its high time. I suggest that the PMC announce and make the site structure changes, say two weeks apart, with lazy concensus of the subprojects. Then only real showstoppers will hold it back, it

[PATCH] new James version numbers for binindex and srcindex

2002-05-30 Thread Danny Angus
Please could someone with Karma apply the patch below to update binindex and srcindex to reflect new James release version number, for xdocs and HTML. TIA. d. cvs -z9 diff -u docs/site/binindex.html docs/site/sourceindex.html xdocs/site/binindex.xml xdocs/site/sourceindex.xml Index:

RE: ApacheCon 2002 US: Deadline for submissions is TO-MORROW!

2002-05-30 Thread Danny Angus
I don't think everyone on here is on the announcements list. Did you ever suppose it might be because we don't want to receive the mail? d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [PATCH] new James version numbers for binindex and srcindex

2002-05-30 Thread Danny Angus
Is there some reason why you can't apply the patch yourself (or request commit access)? No Karma, and I asked a while a go but got not. :-( -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [PATCH] new James version numbers for binindex and srcindex

2002-05-30 Thread Danny Angus
:-D ta! There you go :-) You should be able to commit to jakarta-site-2 -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

funny business with jakarta-site2

2002-05-30 Thread Danny Angus
I just tried cvs up, got this: cvs server: Updating site/pmc The authenticity of host '63.251.56.143 (63.251.56.143)' can't be established. RSA1 key fingerprint is 31:ea:4d:c6:0e:c7:c1:c0:1c:f1:6e:58:c3:b1:cd:4a. Are you sure you want to continue connecting (yes/no)? yes Warning: Permanently

RE: funny business with jakarta-site2

2002-05-30 Thread Danny Angus
forget it, my changes came through anyway.. d. -Original Message- From: Danny Angus [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 30 May 2002 19:13 To: Jakarta General List Subject: funny business with jakarta-site2 I just tried cvs up, got this: cvs server: Updating site/pmc

RE: unbiased opinions wanted.

2002-06-10 Thread Danny Angus
Its clever, what looks like the M$ logo rising up out of what looks like the Java cup. I can see why people would vote for it, it actually manages to convey some relevant meaning. IMHO Reach for your lawyer. Or get the contributor to change it to a spreadsheet steaming out instead. -- To

RE: Interesting quote....

2002-06-18 Thread Danny Angus
To free India, MANY other people, the real heros of India, not Gandi, fought and lost their lives. Gandi is just the one that the British want us the remember. Because Gandi refused to fight, India now has its greatest enemy right on its border (Pakistan). Had Gandi not been there, India

RE: [DRAFT2] Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002

2002-07-02 Thread Danny Angus
cvs up -d -Original Message- From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 02 July 2002 13:34 To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: [DRAFT2] Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002 I add a /news directory and the first edition to the site2 CVS. So on the website this would be under

RE: [OT] Open-Source Cola

2002-07-04 Thread Danny Angus
Ellis Teer wrote: http://www.alternet.org/story.html?StoryID=13494 IMHO the trouble with OS hardware of any kind is that the so called source is not the whole essential pre-requisite for the product, it is merely the build documentation, whereas for OS software the source is in fact the

RE: POI Logo legal matter

2002-07-12 Thread Danny Angus
If there are objections then you can assure youself a lawsuit by going forward with it Although what they will probably do is serve you with a cease and desist warning if they don't like it. anecdote narrative I wrote some WML validation scripts for Macromedia Dreamweaver ages ago, and named

RE: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-17 Thread Danny Angus
http://jakarta.apache.org/site/love.html Amazing what a symlink can do. :D :D -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: Know each other

2002-07-19 Thread Danny Angus
I'm 30 miles sw of Glasgow, there's another guy in Scotland, and about a dozen (if that) all together in the UK AFAIK. d. -Original Message- From: Alex McLintock [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 19 July 2002 07:59 To: Jakarta General List Subject: Know each other At 12:14

RE: Bug handling survey - 80:20 rule

2002-10-04 Thread Danny Angus
So, how come the commercial software can still compete with open source products. IMHO its because on the whole OpenSource contributors are not doing it to compete with commercial software, in fact many of us do this to provide an alternative to the daily pressures, restrictive working

RE: Ok, I fucked up...

2002-10-23 Thread Danny Angus
Pier, Well, what happened was that although the Solaris kernel had still the modules for the disk array in memory, well, those were not available anymore on the disk, and therefore, major pain at the next reboot... I think we'd be lying if any of us said we'd never done something similar,

RE: I'm a leader of jakarta.apache-korea.org

2002-10-23 Thread Danny Angus
Suribaba, Do you have any intention that have official sites in other languages for the purpose of activating the project around the world more? The way things work round here is that people do the things they want to do, no-one can make anyone volunteer. The James project is happy to link

RE: Problem with Bugzilla

2002-10-20 Thread Danny Angus
my AOL browser YUK! -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:general-unsubscribe;jakarta.apache.org For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:general-help;jakarta.apache.org

RE: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?

2002-10-03 Thread Danny Angus
Vincent Massol once wrote: I was curious to know who the other committers where, whether they shared the same beliefs I have, etc. This prompted me to wonder: 1/ are we.. a)male b)female c)decline to answer 2/are we a) young b) 20-30 c) 30-40 d) 40-50 d) old 3/about English a)its my native

RE: running history command on apache CVS modules...

2002-10-30 Thread Danny Angus
-m and -c come before -a and -l.. Usage: cvs history [-report] [-flags] [-options args] [files...] Reports: -T Produce report on all TAGs -c Committed (Modified) files -o Checked out modules -m module Look for

FW: ConnectorJ and Apache

2002-11-18 Thread Danny Angus
Sent: 17 November 2002 13:24 To: Danny Angus Cc: Mark Matthews Subject: Re: ConnectorJ and Apache On Wed, 2002-11-13 at 13:46, Danny Angus wrote: David, I got your address a while ago from Mark, to contact regarding licence issues. Several months ago I mailed Mark about

RE: IDE Developers' guide

2002-11-26 Thread Danny Angus
Guys, I don't know if this is relevant, I guess people can run external tools from their IDE's, but I just sent someone else this link 'cos it has a win32 port of patch. http://unxutils.sourceforge.net/ and I thought of you. They also have a shed full of ports of other simple *nix commands.

RE: IDE Developers' guide

2002-11-26 Thread Danny Angus
has a port of just about everything. including a decent shell emulator for winblowz. Danny Angus wrote: Guys, I don't know if this is relevant, I guess people can run external tools from their IDE's, but I just sent someone else this link 'cos it has a win32 port of patch. http

RE: Jakarta on the news

2002-11-29 Thread Danny Angus
JCP program office director Onno Kluyt said. Apache could not be contacted at the time of going to press. What? d. -Original Message- From: Fernandez Martinez, Alejandro [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 28 November 2002 22:25 To: '[EMAIL PROTECTED] ' Subject: Jakarta on the news

RE: Sun Is Losing Its Way

2002-12-06 Thread Danny Angus
Being involved with the JCP quite closely, yes, I tend to agree... And since now C# is also available for OS/X, well, I'm game! :-) Me too, I may have to learn c# anyway to continue doing stuff for a client of mine who is abandoning OS in favour of M$*. Plus I'd be happy to help OS C#

RE: Sun Is Losing Its Way [PATCH]

2002-12-06 Thread Danny Angus
In true Apache fashion please consider this patch.. ;-) -Original Message- From: James Mitchell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] the number 1 selling OS In case anyone hasn't seen this yet, I've attached the source code to Windows 2000. cvs -z9 diff -u win2000.h Index: win2000.h

RE: Sun Is Losing Its Way

2002-12-10 Thread Danny Angus
is Redhat Linux Professional Server any different from what you can download for free. If so how can they get away with that? Funnily enough this is the second time I've been asked this in a month, and what I reckon is... It comes complete ready to install with tested kernel patches and

RE: Sun Is Losing Its Way

2002-12-10 Thread Danny Angus
I'd also like to see all that provided royalty free and unencumbered by patents, submarine or otherwise. I haven't really flirted with the whole C#/.NET thing but this seems to remain a question mark over Mono and even the ECMA standardization. C# is just another language, without .NET and

RE: Sun Is Losing Its Way

2002-12-11 Thread Danny Angus
Thats cool, Makes the judge look like the kind of guy who only understands life by analogy with sport though. I suppose American judges aren't any less insane than ours then. ;-) d. I particularly liked what this judge had to say:

RE: [POLL] OS of choice

2002-12-18 Thread Danny Angus
Please update the site with your preferences. Jon, Server, desktop or what? d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

RE: [POLL] OS of choice

2002-12-18 Thread Danny Angus
Ahem.. I'd rather not say ;-) d. -Original Message- From: Jon Scott Stevens [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 18 December 2002 17:16 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [POLL] OS of choice on 2002/12/18 1:14 AM, Danny Angus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon, Server, desktop

RE: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-18 Thread Danny Angus
but no summary of the status and growth of Jakarta as a whole. Yeah, it might be nice to have an occasional State of the Nation address. I'm not really sure what one of those is, but I decided I'd better not say Queen's speech. d. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For

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