Re: What is Jakarta?

2001-02-07 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Ted Husted wrote: On 2/7/2001 at 12:09 AM Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: That's exactly what I am trying to say. I know I can't propose. You or I can't call for a vote of the PMC * on * a proposal, but absolutely anyone can submit a proposal for a subproject. Ok. I read it that one

Re: sorry - where is the techncal list?

2001-02-11 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
scales by four hours of exquisite bravery near the 38th parallel. ... - Unknown http://www.hav.com/vet.htm ==== -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Velocity : it's

Re: Anna Kournikova virus (fwd)

2001-02-12 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
13 412-268-4231 www.cs.cmu.edu/~help - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Velocity : it's not just

Re: [POLL] Re: Code Sharing Concepts

2001-02-12 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Ted Husted wrote: On 2/9/2001 at 8:12 AM Sam Ruby wrote: I would suggest that you start with a proposed code base. Going back over the posts, there seem to be at least five clear areas of overlap: * DataSource/Database Pool +1 * XML Configuration +1 geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr

Re: Here you have, ;o)

2001-02-14 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
e same problem again? geir Bye, B. - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Velocity : it's not just a good idea. It should be the

Re: [POLL] Re: Code Sharing Concepts

2001-02-15 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Sam Ruby wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Call it 'Rupert'. Be careful, that name might stick. ;-) That would be fine - forward progress! I guess the logo would be next... :) I mean, with Tomcat 4, nothing really guarantees that you won't abandon Servlet 2.3 for the Wiggly Green

Re: [POLL] Re: Code Sharing Concepts

2001-02-15 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
. ;-) Ok, based on the response to the poll tallied at http://husted.com/about/jakarta/library.html Man, you are *damn* organized :) geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Velocity : it's not just a good idea. It should be the law. http://jakarta.apache.org

Re: [POLL] Re: Code Sharing Concepts

2001-02-16 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
o get them out into the light of day, documented, and supported directly, not incidentally as part of larger projects. I know I am relatively new, and I am not criticizing. I just think there is a huge opportunity here. :) geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL

Re: [POLL] Re: Code Sharing Concepts

2001-02-16 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
that offer a separate, clean FOO tool that supports BAR. (Choose your tool and it's expected functionality). geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Velocity : it's not just a good idea. It should be the law. http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity

Re: [POLL] Re: Code Sharing Concepts

2001-02-16 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
and placing it where it can be found may help. That's what I am advocating - Getting this stuff out front and center. I am not blaming the users. Its our fault if people don't know what the projects are about and have available. geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: [POLL] Re: Code Sharing Concepts

2001-02-17 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
"Craig R. McClanahan" wrote: "Geir Magnusson Jr." wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If someone chooses to duplicate a piece of code, maybe the problem is with the way the code is written and shared. I think in some cases, its bacause people aren't aware tha

Re: What's up with Avalon? (was: Any James developers here?)

2001-02-20 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
. WAAAHG!! - Sam Ruby The most remarkable thing about this thread is that there appears to be a consistant and correct spelling of 'WAAAHG'. geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Velocity : it's not just a good idea. It should be the law

Re: Mrs. Robinson...

2001-03-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
follow-up because a few people gave him a 'what-EVER'... http://www.salon.com/tech/col/garf/2001/01/18/java_response/index.html geir (And if "californian", wouldn't that be 'what-EV- hey? what happened to the lights? ' ) -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [

Re: [PROPOSAL] The Commons

2001-03-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
and tired :) geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developing for the web? See http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail

Re: [PROPOSAL] The Commons

2001-03-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Gunnar R|nning wrote: "Geir Magnusson Jr." [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: The thing that started this, about the coding guidelines, was in response to the addition of the Sun coding guidelines (rules...) - I was just indicating my preference. Of course, but it is important

Re: [PROPOSAL] The Commons

2001-03-10 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
regarding position? geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developing for the web? See http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e

Re: [PROPOSAL] The Commons

2001-03-12 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
are 'wheels up' if the PMC approves, you can propose it. geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developing for the web? See http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: PMC meeting agenda

2001-03-12 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Peter Donald wrote: ... sucks being the only Aussie ;) I thought there were at least several thousand of you there. You certainly have enough room. I know a few that live in New York if you are lonely. :D geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: JCP Survey

2001-03-13 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
"Michael, Colin" wrote: Who, exactly, is doing this survey? Does not appear to be from Sun. Is there a link to this from the Sun website? Found a link to www.kingbrown.com in their page, who claim to do 'intelligent market research, and claims Sun as a client. geir -- Geir Ma

Re: jakarta-site2

2001-03-15 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
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Re: New Subprojects

2001-03-22 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
when both turbine/avalon already offer a lot of support. Why wouldn't the import be allowed? That's one of the reasons for commons : to provide a place to collaborate across projects... geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developing for the web? See http

Re: New Subprojects

2001-03-22 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Conor MacNeill wrote: From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]On Behalf Of Geir Magnusson Jr. Sent: Friday, 23 March 2001 3:20 PM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: New Subprojects Peter Donald wrote: Jon Stevens : For #2: It certainly could start

Re: New Subprojects

2001-03-22 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Peter Donald wrote: At 11:20 22/3/01 -0500, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Why wouldn't the import be allowed? That's one of the reasons for commons : to provide a place to collaborate across projects... Go back to the original discussion. Essentially all components should not rely

Re: New Subprojects

2001-03-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
tter basis for deciding where such a beastie will live as a 'formal' project. You could also try it under the asupices of Avalon, Turbine, Struts too... gier -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developing for the web? See http://jakarta.apache.or

Re: New Subprojects

2001-03-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
for the components might be realized, as I am sure it will bring howls of derision and scorn regarding central control and big brother. However, this is a really good point and a discussion we should have in Commons-land. Please come and join if interested. geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr

Re: [PROPOSAL] J2EEUnit donation to ASF

2001-03-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
and my favorite of all: UnitTestingSystemForSunOverHypedMarketingBuzzwords How about .NETUnit ? -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developing for the web? See http://jakarta.apache.or

Re: [PROPOSAL] J2EEUnit donation to ASF

2001-03-29 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
for Java Enterprise Unit testing framework. That's not so bad. I like this. It keeps the 'Unit' and if you can get away with JE w/o Sun getting upset... geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Developing for the web? See http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity

[ANNOUNCEMENT] Velocity 1.0 Released

2001-04-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
The Velocity project is pleased to announce the release of Version 1.0 of the Velocity template engine. Velocity is a powerful template engine written in Java and released as open-source software under the Apache Software License. Sun's Dot-Com Builder developer information site just did a

Re: Binaries in CVS

2001-04-12 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
marketing machine. Not because it it technically better. But because I for one don't like rewriting my applications every few months. The comparison was really about JSP vs. Velocity. What if you could use Struts/Velocity? :-) geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL

Re: Javaworld Awards

2001-05-05 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Ceki Gülcü wrote: Greetings, Here are some pretty good news: http://www.javaworld.com/jw-05-2001/jw-0504-finalists.html Regards, Ceki Congratulations to log4j and Tomcat 3.2! If no one has done it yet, I am going to put this up on Jakarta news. -- Geir Magnusson Jr

Re: FW: if and unless attributes for all Tasks

2001-05-15 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Developing for the web? See http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ still climbing up to the shoulders

Re: [proposal] Jakarta Deprecation Policy

2001-05-16 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
as a set of guidelines? geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Developing for the web? See http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ still climbing up to the shoulders

Re: [GUMP] Build Failure - Turbine

2001-05-22 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
force the issue by making it a part of being a Jakarta project, I don't think we want to do that. geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Developing for the web? See http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ still climbing up to the shoulders

Re: [GUMP] Build Failure - Turbine

2001-05-22 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Sam Ruby wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: There is nothing (other than the sloth of Daedalus) which prevents us from adding any 'test' we want - Gump is running the Velocity testbed, for example, which is more than interface-related, but functional as well. That test suite takes

Re: Lucene acceptance in Jakarta

2001-06-09 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
] No vote: Pierpaolo Fumagalli Ted Husted Geir Magnusson Jr. Craig McClanahan Sam Ruby -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Developing for the web? See http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ You have a genius for suggesting things I've come

Re: Proposal to make BSF an ASF project

2001-06-22 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Pier P. Fumagalli wrote: Sam Ruby at [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Craig R. McClanahan wrote: +1 for BSF as a Jakarta project. Ditto. Doh :) +1 Pier Re me +1 geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Developing

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-03 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
that this list will double in size very shortly. Thoughts? Does that belong here in Jakarta or in XML land? Either way, +1 from me, btw. geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Developing for the web? See http://jakarta.apache.org

Re: Helma XML-RPC @ Jakarta

2001-07-05 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
be nice, but that's only a suggestion - I am not a part of xml.apache community. If they can't be acommodated in a way that is satisfactory to all, +1 for here in Jakarta. geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Developing for the web

Re: [OT] $un, M$ and Java

2001-08-13 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Peter Donald wrote: On Mon, 13 Aug 2001 21:29, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Sam Ruby wrote: Kevin A. Burton wrote: - - No more competition from .NET/C#. (why would anyone want to support an MS proprietary language?) s/MS proprietary language/draft ECMA standard language/. ECMA

Re: JavaOne Call for Papers

2001-08-14 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Developing for the web? See http://jakarta.apache.org

Re: JavaOne Call for Papers

2001-08-14 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
in the J2EE web environment would be interesting, focusing on Velocity as an example. Would demonstrate how easily it fits into the conventional and recommended development model, etc etc geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Developing

Re: FW: Veltag JSP Taglib

2001-08-14 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
JSP Taglib I love it. -jon -- Forwarded Message From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Mon, 13 Aug 2001 22:54:33 -0400 To: velocity-user [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Veltag JSP Taglib Tonight I committed into the contrib section of CVS a mini

Re: [VOTE] Making Commons-Cactus a top level projet

2001-09-14 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
you want to preserve your history? -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Developing for the web? See http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ If you look up, there are no limits - Japanese Proverb

Re: ImportScrubberTask

2001-10-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

Re: [Vote] BCEL @ Jakarta

2001-10-23 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
acknowledge it. Maybe it's time to reorganize the site and see who salutes or flames :) geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting You're going to end up getting pissed at your software anyway, so you might as well not pay for it. Try Open Source

Re: Distributing the JSSE

2001-10-24 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
form reasonably designed to make the statement visible to users of the Software: This product includes code licensed from RSA Data Security. The only problem that I see is (iv). Is that it? -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Whoever would overthrow

Re: Site update

2001-10-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 10/27/01 4:27 PM, Remy Maucherat [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, When doing site updates, please don't forget to update before starting editing. For example, Berin reverted many changes to the news and binary pages. Shouldn't the cvs commit caught that on the merge? -- Geir Magnusson

Re: Anyone wants to...

2001-10-28 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 10/27/01 7:33 PM, Pier Fumagalli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Take up some moderation works? I'm fed with all mailing lists :) Pier Yep - send stuff my way. geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation

Re: [OT] MS makes a better PetShop...

2001-10-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
, it's going to be a bit of work, although we could try to recycle the lutris simple beans... Now, if I could just avoid sleep... geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting You're going to end up getting pissed at your software anyway, so

Re: [OT] Microsoft Sets Tolls for .Net Developers

2001-10-31 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
project... -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting He who throws mud only loses ground. - Fat Albert -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [OT] MS makes a better PetShop...

2001-11-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
to use. W a k e u p p e o p l e -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting He who throws mud only

Re: Cross site scripting

2001-11-21 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
...) -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Be a giant. Take giant steps. Do giant things... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: BCEL @ apache

2001-10-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
problem. -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

Re: BCEL @ apache

2001-10-08 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
to general@. It's 5:50 am, coffee just finished brewing, and I forgot this was a general@ thread with replied to list. Sorry again, all. geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing

Re: commentary by Linus Torvalds

2001-12-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
. They will just change their strategy. ... then again you should never underestimate the power of stupidity :) -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Be a giant. Take giant steps. Do giant things... -- To unsubscribe, e

Re: Comment for Apache.org

2001-12-10 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Be a giant. Take giant steps. Do

Re: Comment for Apache.org

2001-12-11 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
... Hmm -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech. - Benjamin Franklin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail

Re: Comment for Apache.org

2001-12-11 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
, of course. geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing the freeness of speech. - Benjamin Franklin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail

Re: Standard Change Log and ToDo

2001-12-12 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
bar It appears the Cocoon project uses Stylebook. Jakarta projects use Anakia, but I have not found any macros in Jakarta-site2 that reference a Change Log or To Do list. I predict that they will become sick of working with an XML format :) Kevin -- Geir Magnusson Jr

Re: Standard Change Log and ToDo

2001-12-12 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 12/12/01 6:19 PM, Kevin A. Burton - burtonator [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] writes: We use XML format via Anakia in velocity-land and don't have any problems... I don't really mind. snip Enlighten me

Re: Standard Change Log and ToDo

2001-12-14 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
']) ) Or some such. ( Give a guy some basic Xpath knowledge...) We don't need no steenkeeng pasting... -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Be a giant. Take giant steps. Do giant things... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL

Re: jakarta source code documentation

2001-12-14 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
. A shame (Java cross referencing not needed :(). Juliet is commercial, but there will be a free version. Thanks for the reply, carlo Actually, isn't that one of the goals of Alexandria? Maybe wth your expertise you might want to help out there? :) geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr

Re: Coding style addition

2001-12-15 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
are atempts to gain consensus on whether to use tabs or not, and then how many characters an indent is :-). No, and 4 :) -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Be a giant. Take giant steps. Do giant things... -- To unsubscribe

Re: Jakarta Newsletter

2001-12-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
the most perfect tool [2], but it does the job well, people adopted it quickly and the bitching about Styleweb (the previous tool) stopped. thanks! -jon -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting He who throws mud only loses

Re: Jakarta Newsletter

2001-12-27 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 12/27/01 7:51 PM, Rob Oxspring [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, December 28, 2001 12:25 AM To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Jakarta Newsletter Don't give up too easily :) I'll help

Re: Jakarta Newsletter

2001-12-28 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
to it and grok all that is going on. :) Also, each group might have something they want to emphasize or advertise... -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting You're going to end up getting pissed at your software anyway, so you might as well

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
that dependent jars can be easily downloaded I think it might be a good idea for JJAR/CJAN to be a subproject of Alexandria. I disagree. -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting They that can give up essential liberty to obtain

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
: mailto:general- [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
at the simple notion of just having release jars available w/o docs, source, etc I don't think this is a bad idea :) However Any license issues? Wouldn't we want to package the jar w/ a license ? -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Whoever would overthrow

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/1/02 2:43 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: I agree that it would be nice if the GUMP results were put somewhere publicly accessible (they may be but I have no idea where). However, the second step is to automatically fetch the correct dependent jars

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/1/02 2:54 PM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Putting aside *all* the stuff we are talking about for a moement, and looking at the simple notion of just having release jars available w/o docs, source, etc I don't think this is a bad idea :) However

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/1/02 3:08 PM, Vincent Massol [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: 01 January 2002 19:26 To: Jakarta General List Subject: Re: Just the JARs You don't want to use the results of Gump for JJAR. Gump isn't

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/1/02 6:04 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: My rationale was that the goal of GUMP as I understand it now, is to ensure that all projects play well with each other in term of compatibility. It seems natural to extend it so that it can also be asked

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
... :-) [snip] -Vincent -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/1/02 8:43 PM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: However, I will continue the riff that released versions are important and different. Just curious, why does the December 9th release of jakarta-velocity contain a milestone version of commons-collections.jar

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

2002-01-02 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
clear from the start. Comments? Why is it appropriate for Jakarta? That's the missing piece for me. You said that the Cocoon community is excited about it, it could be important for data conversion in XML land... geir -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED

Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage

2002-01-03 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
Good idea. We were going to do that at one point. Maybe we'll ask each newsletter contributor to make up a *one* sentence blurb and do it that way. -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Whoever would overthrow the liberty of a nation must begin by subduing

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

2002-01-03 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/3/02 8:21 AM, Stefano Mazzocchi [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Comments? Why is it appropriate for Jakarta? That's the missing piece for me. You said that the Cocoon community is excited about it, it could be important for data conversion in XML land

Re: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
this: if (something) { } ;) You left out my 'favorite' if ( something ) { } :) -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Now what do we do? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail

Re: Code conventions

2002-01-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
at Sun? Yes, I created too many classes with the opening brace on a separate line... -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting We will be judged not by the monuments we build, but by the monuments we destroy - Ada Louise Huxtable

Re: Code conventions

2002-01-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
found. Are these perceived as problems by others or is it just my imagination? -- Ceki Gülcü - http://qos.ch -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System

Re: Code conventions

2002-01-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
-- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Now what do we do? -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional

Re: Jakarta Status [was Code conventions]

2002-01-04 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
it really matter whether the code is jakarta-gump or xml-whatever? Funny. I've been waiting for it to become a top level project (or at least an Alexandrai project :) -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting You're going to end up getting pissed

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

2002-01-05 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
time :) -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting We will be judged not by the monuments we build, but by the monuments we destroy - Ada Louise Huxtable -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

2002-01-05 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
-archive.com/general%40jakarta.apache.org/msg02690.html No comment, as it's an agreeable followup to the above. -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting We will be judged not by the monuments we build, but by the monuments we destroy - Ada

Re: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-05 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
to guarantee that the compiler won't generate names that conflict with ones I declare in a page? As a SWAG, I would think you could parse out the ones you declare, keep a list, and ensure you don't generate anything that conflicts? -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL

Cultural homogeneity

2002-01-05 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
, but I'm beat. Happy weekend. :) -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Be a giant. Take giant steps. Do giant things... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL

Re: Cultural homogeneity

2002-01-06 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/6/02 3:52 AM, Peter Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 6 Jan 2002 16:10, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: I was leafing through my copy of A Pattern Language by Alexander, Ishikawa and Silverstein, which is really about architecture of human habitat (buildings and environs), and ran

Re: Cultural homogeneity

2002-01-06 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/6/02 8:06 AM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: I thought I would share, as my thinking about removing community containers here in Jakarta, XML et al resonates well this. Personally, I just think its mainly a matter of packaging. By definination, we

Re: Cultural homogeneity

2002-01-06 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
in the jakarta tradition, would be an attractor to users because of the popularity of ant. However, I still worry about the effects on Jakarta. -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Be a giant. Take giant steps. Do giant things

Re: Cultural homogeneity

2002-01-06 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
that happens to ;) Drives me up the wall :) -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety. - Benjamin Franklin

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

2002-01-06 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/6/02 12:18 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Here we go again, Alas. -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 4:45 AM Playing Devil's advocate. I think it's fair to push back on adding things

Re: Cultural homogeneity

2002-01-06 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/6/02 12:48 PM, Peter Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 04:01, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Maybe we could just start having sub-catgories within Jakarta. So basically Jakarta is still the top level project but we have a software map underneath it that categorizes project

Re: Cultural homogeneity

2002-01-06 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
is important. I think I wrote that a message or to ago as well. More crossing the ether I suppose. - Sam Ruby -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System

Re: Cultural homogeneity

2002-01-06 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
be sustained to an arbitrarily large size. I wonder if it can (I don't know), I wonder if the risk is worth the possible upside, and I wonder if now isn't an appropriate time to consider this issue :) -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software

Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage

2002-01-06 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
and Perl be in the same category? -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software Consulting Be a giant. Take giant steps. Do giant things... -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL

Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage

2002-01-06 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/6/02 3:54 PM, Peter Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 7 Jan 2002 07:27, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Shouldn't tomcat and httpd be in the same category? different technologies (ie c vs java). So what? You didn't think that mattered before. Shouldn't Cocoon and PHP

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI  Â @apache]

2002-01-06 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/6/02 9:10 PM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -Original Message- From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, January 06, 2002 6:55 PM On 1/6/02 12:58 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: ... If you start at the top of the thread, I

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POIÂ @apache]

2002-01-06 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On 1/6/02 9:51 PM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: My apologies. I'll shut up now until my brain un-freezes. :-D -Andy Sheesh. Give southerners a dusting of snow and all goes pear shaped... :) -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System

Re: OT: northern drivers and their snow...was: Re: On unityandcoherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POIÂ @apache]

2002-01-06 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
just a little above Richmond. I grew up in Florida precipitation is called normal. Its the cold white stuff that I don't like. (that might also be a result of driving a Miata) That actually sounds like a fun car for the snow... -- Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] System and Software

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