Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

2002-05-03 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, 3 May 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: I'm also very unhappy with the xml/jakarta separation and the balkanisation of apache - as well shown by the current maven/forest/cocoon/centipede discussion, where even xml.apache.org is affected by jakarta's NIH. So I'll be -1 ( as a

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

2002-05-03 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, 3 May 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: My point is that, like it or not (I like it, Costin doesn't) there is some benefit of letting like minded people form a community unto themselves - this is the whole argument behind bringing XML and Jakarta together - lots of like minded

Re: You guys are so funny.

2002-05-03 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, 3 May 2002, Pier Fumagalli wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On 5/2/02 5:28 PM, Berin Loritsch [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: :) We'd probably be running UNIX on our desktops with a standard and friendly GUI. I am. I use a mac w/ OS X :) Same here...

Re: You guys are so funny.

2002-05-03 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, 3 May 2002, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: I am. I use a mac w/ OS X :) Same here... Everywhere... :) Me too. I'm hooked. TiBook wherever I go, dualie 800 at home. Can't go back. The Apple Java list has had some complaints recently that Sun don't care about Apple users and

Re: Apple. Re: You guys are so funny.

2002-05-03 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, 3 May 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 5/3/02 10:04 AM, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Apple Java list has had some complaints recently that Sun don't care about Apple users and that Apple can't supply the time to support Java users. Well duh. Apple's business

Re: Database Subproject Discussion : creation of DBCommons ?

2002-05-03 Thread Henri Yandell
Martin Poeschl wrote: snip there are only 2 apache developers on the ojb developer list (Jason van Zyl and me) i think it would be good to give the other ojb developers some time to see how everything works here . I think I need to speak more often then :) Admittedly, I'm only a

Re: Project Activity

2002-05-11 Thread Henri Yandell
I think this might be what you mean by file activity, but might not. Aren't there two types of project activity. Developer activity and user activity. Having no developer activity is not a bad sign if there is high user activity, ie) sign of a solid/stable piece of code. Now I don't know of any

Re: Advertisement using Apache lists

2002-05-14 Thread Henri Yandell
I took it as tongue in cheek :) I mean...who wouldn't be interested solely in Jakarta. It beggar's belief. On Tue, 14 May 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: You do realize you just said that on general@jakarta ;-) Alex McLintock wrote: But I'm not just interested in the Jakarta projects -

RE: [IMPORTANT] What actions can the ASF take to enforce copyright?

2002-05-16 Thread Henri Yandell
Having decided to licence some code under the Apache licence, and some documentation as well, I headed to the Jakarta front page to find a link to the licence. No dice. Then I tried the main Apache front page, no luck again. Shouldn't these link to the licence? Or the two or three licences in

Re: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...

2002-05-24 Thread Henri Yandell
+1. Another example if I could. The job role of 'Java admin' is growing more and more at companies. Developers shouldn't be adminning things, but would you have your unix or oracle admin be the admin of the Java side with zero Java knowledge? Jakarta houses the 'Java' community at Apache but

Re: new look

2002-06-27 Thread Henri Yandell
On Thu, 27 Jun 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 6/27/02 11:10 AM, Kasper Nielsen [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Isn't maven more directed towards each independent top-project?? The great thing about the java.sun.com layout is that there is so much room for writing stuff and linking to

Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002

2002-07-01 Thread Henri Yandell
The Url no works. Nice job though [from the email]. Wonder when there'll be a drive for a separate mail list just for the newsletter, or to send it to the announce list. Hen Jakarta Newsletter == Issue: 1 Date: June 2002 URL:

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-17 Thread Henri Yandell
The Jon page completely ignores the concept of a Jakarta project to build a set of protocols under which Jon can act so as to avoid causing riots in first world countries. I would like to propose this as a top level Jakarta project and fully believe its mail list will receive more noise than any

Re: Jakarta projects on OSDir.com

2002-09-23 Thread Henri Yandell
Confused though. There are 22 Jakarta projects listed on osdir [or at least via onjava.com there are]. What's special about the bits below? And where are they meant to be placed? On download pages? Hen On Tue, 24 Sep 2002, Pier Fumagalli wrote: Doh... My doing, as always! :-) Cool stuff,

Re: What's the problem with the Jakarta site?

2002-09-25 Thread Henri Yandell
It's been down all day for me. ssh/web/mail-lists until now. Been hearing the same from people in the UK, so seems not to be localised to kentucky. Hen On Wed, 25 Sep 2002, Jim Moore wrote: It's painfully slow and I'm getting 403 errors to areas I know are public. -- To unsubscribe,

Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?

2002-10-03 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, 4 Oct 2002, Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 3/10/02 15:35, Danny Angus [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: 2/are we a) young b) 20-30 c) 30-40 d) 40-50 d) old My mother would _kill_ your for saying that over-50 is old Pier The fact that Pier's mother listens to the mail list

Re: Newsletter

2002-10-16 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 16 Oct 2002, Rob Oxspring wrote: Now that I'm back on my feet again I'm wondering what to do about the missing issue... Otis sent a lucene update, but is it worth pursuing others for contributions or should we skip September and have a bumper October issue? alternatively we could

Re: Jakarta member seeking ASF membership

2002-10-23 Thread Henri Yandell
If we're expected to nominate ourselves as such, it'd be nice to have some guidelines as to what we should be looking at in our day-to-day Apache goings on to know that the time has come. So we don't look like young punks :) Hen On Wed, 23 Oct 2002, Morgan Delagrange wrote: Hi all, [from a

Re: [PROPOSAL] Tapestry joins Jakarta

2002-10-18 Thread Henri Yandell
We've used Tapestry at work. My colleague is very impressed with it and has had good vibes from contributing back to Howard. [I'm more conservative and despite liking the ideas in general, wanted us to back off to a simpler system until we could have time to understand Tapestry better. Sorry

Log reporting (was: Is Cactus successful)

2002-10-20 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Ellis Teer wrote: Note: I don't like too much the stats from webalizer and I have started using awstats I've been a webalizer user too. It suffices. (http://jakarta.apache.org/~vmassol/awstats/awstats.jakarta.apache.org.h tml) as an experiment. Much better stats I

RE: Is Cactus successful (was RE: [PROPOSAL] Tapestry joins Jakarta)

2002-10-20 Thread Henri Yandell
On Sun, 20 Oct 2002, Vincent Massol wrote: Ok I want to be positive and try to see if there's anything I can do to improve the overall Cactus community. You say Cactus might be missing some marketing muscles. I would like to believe that. From the information in my email do you still

Re: Naming issues

2002-10-21 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Michael A. Smith wrote: On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Why not just decide to move the Jakarta Commons projects to Commons and the Sandbox ones to Incubator? This is not a proposal for a diktat, but a *suggestion* for Jakarta Commons projects to

Re: Naming issues

2002-10-21 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, 21 Oct 2002, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Therefor I still think Jakarta Commons should fix their naming scheme. But that will have to be brought up there, not here. It's completely impractical, and will hurt Jakarta immensely. Oh, well, now that I think

Linux Magazine article

2002-10-24 Thread Henri Yandell
Linux Magazine's backpage article is a little thing on Java and Linux together etc. [Steve J. Vaughan-Nichols]. Apache Software Foundation's Jakarta project gets a good mention, however he seems to ascribe JBoss as being a Jakarta project :) Which is a shame that maybe Jakarta's brand is being a

Sun's Java Tutorials

2002-10-28 Thread Henri Yandell
I don't suppose anyone knows if Sun generate out their tutorials from some other format? It looks generated but lacks nice things like 'this page generated by Sun Frontpage' or something :) It seems a good format to use for tutorials for other Java resources. Hen -- To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: Why don't provide zipped manuals an HOW-TOs?

2002-10-29 Thread Henri Yandell
Usually because I'm assembling a list of docs for a PDA, or for a company document server, or whatever :) But Andrew's right. The docs are generally in the binary downloads. Website needs improving to make that more clear... Hen On Tue, 29 Oct 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: For POI

Re: New Jakarta Logo committed to CVS, going live in a couple ofhours, please check.

2002-11-06 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 6 Nov 2002, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Thanks to the valid help of Brian Ewins ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) I have committed the revised new versions of the logos, which should be fine now. If there are problems (incase, probably more due to my conversions than to his work), please report

RE: Dead link...http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/sandbox/io/

2002-11-19 Thread Henri Yandell
/ Putting a site up is on my todo for IO. Thanks, Hen On Tue, 19 Nov 2002, Arnon Moscona wrote: Doesn't look fixed from where I sit... Thanks, Arnon -Original Message- From: Henri Yandell [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Sunday, November 17, 2002 8:01 PM To: Jakarta General List

[xdocs] Bug report (fwd)

2002-11-25 Thread Henri Yandell
I originally mentioned this on the Commons list, but as xdocs are used pretty heavily across Jakarta, I thought I'd try here too. I have a bug with the site generation. Either that or user-stupidity. I want a url in the xdoc file which has 's in. If I just do it the html way, xdocs aren't

Re: [xdocs] Bug report (fwd)

2002-11-25 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Craig R. McClanahan wrote: On Mon, 25 Nov 2002, Henri Yandell wrote: Date: Mon, 25 Nov 2002 18:17:09 -0500 (EST) From: Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] Reply-To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: [xdocs

Website failings [Was: GUI of the website, where's an overview? (notsimply found)]

2002-12-16 Thread Henri Yandell
On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Socha, Henri J,,DMDCWEST wrote: Make the list of Jakarta subprojects more prominent. It does not have to be on a seperate page, on the main page is fine and probably best. My request is placing it and/or links to it in such a position that finding it is easier. I

Re: Website failings [Was: GUI of the website, where's an overview?(not simply found)]

2002-12-16 Thread Henri Yandell
was a motivator. Do we need to change this now Apache Incubator has been voted for? Also, as far as I know, only Apache may use the Apache License. Should this link to some form of page on how to use the Apache License? Hen On Mon, 16 Dec 2002, Henri Yandell wrote: On Mon, 16 Dec 2002

Re: FYI: Follow up on the XML'ization of MS Office 11

2002-12-17 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 2002/12/17 10:22 AM, Brian Ewins [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is old news I but I just saw it today: there's a tool that can convert word 2000 docs (saved as html) to an xml doc and an xsl-t script to generate xsl:fo - and from there to

Re: [POLL] OS of choice

2002-12-17 Thread Henri Yandell
A nice idea, and a simple way of adding in the votes, but with the issue that people without access to jakarta-site2 are unable to commit changes. If people want to send in patches, or just vote inline, then I'm sure people with access can add them. [I'm happy to do so for any I see]. Hen On

Re: [POLL] OS of choice

2002-12-17 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Jon Scott Stevens wrote: I added a simple poll for Jakarta developers. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/os.html Please update the site with your preferences. -jon while I plan to site my preference. I merely am curious what the

Re: [POLL] OS of choice

2002-12-17 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: A nice idea, and a simple way of adding in the votes, but with the issue that people without access to jakarta-site2 are unable to commit changes. If people want to send in patches, or just vote inline, then I'm sure

Re: [POLL] OS of choice

2002-12-17 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 17 Dec 2002, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 2002/12/17 1:15 PM, Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A nice idea, and a simple way of adding in the votes, but with the issue that people without access to jakarta-site2 are unable to commit changes. I'm sorry, but I'm so tired

Re: Jakarta PMC report

2002-12-18 Thread Henri Yandell
How does this balance with Sam's: Overall, the imperialistic expansion phase of Jakarta has been put on pause. No new code bases have been accepted. ? Hen On Wed, 18 Dec 2002, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Sure. Make sure you meet the criteria and write a proposal. You just need some

Re: Forum Software for Jakarta?

2003-01-15 Thread Henri Yandell
[Someone else just emailed this, but sending to show my agreement] There's that GMane thing that lets you view the mailing lists as a forum? Personally I've not found any forums as easy to use as a mailing list. Communication in a community is in three ways: 1) Multi-cast 2) Direct

Re: New Jakarta proposal: Pluto

2003-01-21 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Steven Noels wrote: Andrew C. Oliver wrote: project. I do kinda think a project proposal might be premature since the specification isn't public yet. I was trying not to post the obvious, but yes: this seems largely premature. No code, a restricted community, too

Re: New Projects

2003-01-21 Thread Henri Yandell
Have there been others than Charon/Pluto [which seem to be the same thing ish]? Hen On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: What is it with IBM people suddenly wanting to start projects based around JSR's? Looks suspicious to me. -jon -- StudioZ.tv /\ Bar/Nightclub/Entertainment

Re: Light Weight JDO Implementation?

2003-01-21 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Robert Simmons wrote: Greetings, I was wondering if there was a JDO implementation in the planning stages. Not heard of any group at Apache doing so except the OJB people. I know, you are probably going to answer, Go look at OJB. However, to face reality, OJB was

Re: New Jakarta proposal: Pluto

2003-01-21 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 21 Jan 2003, Luta, Raphael (VUN) wrote: From: Henri Yandell bayard at generationjava.com Is this different from Tomcat and/or JSTL? If so, how? I'm clueless on portlets, but from my 'vague consumer' view, I thought the JSR was standardising a lot of what Jetspeed does

Re: Forum Software.

2003-01-22 Thread Henri Yandell
So the suggestion is: All Users lists become forums. Developer lists stay. Only problem I see there is that Developers won't check the forums as much as they should, unless the Users forum has a mail list interface. Hen On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Robert Simmons wrote: Well, once again I would

Re: wow

2003-01-23 Thread Henri Yandell
Looks terrible. The img size is wrong. Was this sarcasm? :) It's too early in the morning to notice. On Wed, 22 Jan 2003, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: The logo on this page looksWonderful! http://jakarta.apache.org/watchdog/index.html (mozilla 1.2.1 and IE 6.x) -Andy -- To

Re: LGPL beans imported into code at Apache....

2003-01-27 Thread Henri Yandell
This seems to come up every now and then, so I'm just mentioning what I remember from the previous times it has come up. The word from on high is that LGPL is not to be distributed from Apache. [ie no jars etc]. No legal action has officially been taken due to the lack of funds to throw away on

Re: Open ThunderGraph in Jakarta ?

2003-01-28 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 28 Jan 2003, Henri Gomez wrote: (http://sourceforge.net/projects/thundergraph/) I contacted the main developper and he seems to be ok with making OpenTG a jakarta project. So what do you think about it as a sub-project, or as a jakarta-commons subprojec ? I have reservations:

Re: (PHP interperated via Java) [Fwd: RE: [JBoss-dev] PHP]

2003-01-28 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, 10 Jan 2003, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 2003/1/10 5:06 AM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I thought this might be interesting to some folks... They're porting PHP to Java... Yea, it is called JSP w/ scriptlets. JSP2.0 w/ JSTL. Full of ${blah} variables to make the

Re: nice

2003-01-28 Thread Henri Yandell
Interesting points. Who runs the JCP? Is Apache just a member, or an actual runner? If so, is it Apache's role to comment in anyway on the current disatisfaction with the hidden-ness of the JCP? Or is that the JCP themselves [if such exists] role? [Apache's role, along with all the other

Re: nice

2003-01-28 Thread Henri Yandell
vote counts. JCP is what Java has that .NET never will and that is why .NET will win. -- Robert - Original Message - From: Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Sent: Wednesday, January 29, 2003 3:12 AM Subject: Re: nice Interesting points

Re: nice

2003-01-28 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Robert Simmons wrote: But who speaks for JCP? Those who chose to be involved. I'm not sure I'm conveying the question properly. As an Apache committer, I am unable to speak on behalf of the ASF. Equally, as a JCP member I would not be able to speak on behalf of JCP.

Re: nice

2003-01-28 Thread Henri Yandell
[Electricity outages tonight mean my DNS is down. But looking at the JCP in a text browser the mail archives are at: http://archives.java.sun.com/archives/jcp-interest.html Time for more spam :) Hen On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Henri Yandell wrote: On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Robert Simmons wrote

Re: nice

2003-01-28 Thread Henri Yandell
, Henri Yandell wrote: [Electricity outages tonight mean my DNS is down. But looking at the JCP in a text browser the mail archives are at: http://archives.java.sun.com/archives/jcp-interest.html Time for more spam :) Hen On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Henri Yandell wrote: On Wed, 29 Jan 2003

Re: Logging strategy

2003-01-29 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, [iso-8859-1] Paul Hammant wrote: [..] to choose between log4j, LogKit, commons-logging or even JDK1.4-Logging? There is also logging delivered by Avalon-Framework. I thought that was LogKit Paul? My personal view is that the makers of reusable components should

Re: nice

2003-01-29 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: We have 'infiltrated' it. The ASF is a member of the J2SE/J2EE executive committee (I am the current representative), and we have many members (and non-members) participating in various JSRs. Yeah I know. Thus my questions as to whether

Re: Logging strategy

2003-01-29 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 29 Jan 2003, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 2003/1/29 5:56 AM, Ceki Gülcü [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I believe log4j is here to stay. Its user base is large and growing. As time passes, more people will gravitate to it as it keeps improving. We have enough cool features in pipe to

Re: nice

2003-01-29 Thread Henri Yandell
So the solution for committers who would like to be involved in the JCP is to hand around their announce list and website, when a particular new JSR is announced they can go volunteer. If successful, then they would do the agreement thing and be an ASF representative? Hen On Wed, 29 Jan 2003,

Re: JCP Process [Was nice ;-)]

2003-01-30 Thread Henri Yandell
On Thu, 30 Jan 2003, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Thursday, January 30, 2003, at 10:30 AM, Santiago Gala wrote: Agreed, good supporting feedback, and this is something that is a current topic of interest in the JCP EC. We (the members of the EC, the ASF being a member) are interested in

Re: LGPL beans imported into code at Apache....

2003-01-30 Thread Henri Yandell
Mr RMS then needs to publish something about using LGPL/GPL with Java. Personally I agree with the need for LGPL for library applications, however LGPL's wording is phrased in C terminology and I have never seen anyone offering good legal advice on whether LGPL is usable with Java properly. So

Re: The Jakarta Site Was: [Discussion] (Fake)Forrest for Jakarta!

2003-01-30 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote on 31/01/2003 02:28:59 PM: How about we give these items some names: Sounds good. 1) Where do I download? Downloads 2) Has their been a release? Release Notes Possibly this should be 'Status

RE: The Jakarta Site Was: [Discussion] (Fake)Forrest for Jakarta!

2003-01-30 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, 31 Jan 2003, Christoph Wilhelms wrote: Sorry! Just picking one point, but :)! Slice it all apart, one point at a time :) 7) What Apache community does Project X belong to? What's an Apache community? Do you mean 'top-level project'? Nope. Like, Jakarta should point to the

Re: The Jakarta Site

2003-01-31 Thread Henri Yandell
such a time as it goes into one of the above] *** @author: Henri Yandell [EMAIL PROTECTED] @creation: 2003/01/31 @state: proposal @version: 0.1 Introduction Purpose --- To create a low buy-in contract for ASF projects

RE: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - January 2003

2003-02-03 Thread Henri Yandell
Scott Sanders David Sean Taylor Glen Stampoultzis Mladen Turk James Turner Henri Yandell Footnotes: [1] http://archives.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?listName=general@ jakarta.apache.orgmsgNo=14080

Re: Review and testing of source code

2003-02-04 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 4 Feb 2003, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 2003/2/4 4:17 PM, Eric Merhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Can you please send me or point me to information on how submitted open source code is reviewed and tested by the organization before it is made available for download. My

Re: failure notice

2003-02-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Sam Ruby wrote: This issue has come up before. This time, let's flatten it. In two weeks, there is a board meeting. At that time, I would like to be able to report that the contents of the Maven repository conforms to the policies of the Apache Software Foundation.

Re: Fun article...

2003-02-05 Thread Henri Yandell
Page 7 [on printer friendly verson]'s Figure 5 lists the number of members each 'company' has in expert groups and lists Apache as having 15. Now, as http://www.jcp.org/en/jsr/detail?id=127 appears to me to have anything from 1 to 4 Apache people on it, I imagine that the article's numbers are

RE: Clear the air

2003-02-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Nick Chalko wrote: JJAR has stalled. but maybe restarting that is a good solution. I think building outside of maven is a worthwhile because not every one uses maven. I would like to see the tools and standards developed be independent of the build tool. This doesn't

RE: Clear the air Re: ATTN: Maven developers [was: primary distribution location]

2003-02-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On 5 Feb 2003, Jason van Zyl wrote: On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 14:29, Nick Chalko wrote: I hope to have a proposal started on the Wiki tonight (PST). The Maven repository has been an essential tool for me for me. The next step is to play nice with gump. Then do help

Re: Clear the air Re: ATTN: Maven developers [was: primary distribution location]

2003-02-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote, On 05/02/2003 20.35: On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 02:29 PM, Nick Chalko wrote: JJAR in commons sandbox had some of these ideas in there... But can you build this into maven rather than in parallel?

RE: Clear the air

2003-02-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Nick Chalko wrote: I don't use maven to do my builds. I use a different tool(centipede or ant). I am proposing an Project to handle dependencies, versioning, and downloads. The new project being separate from both Maven and Centipede but useable by both (or other

Re: Clear the air

2003-02-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 5 Feb 2003, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Wednesday, February 5, 2003, at 03:01 PM, Nick Chalko wrote: *nod*. +1 on using what Maven currently has, merged with anything Ruper has learnt about being outside of Maven and tested by both the Maven and Centipede communities. -1 to

Re: [Proposal] Jakarta Ruper

2003-02-05 Thread Henri Yandell
On 5 Feb 2003, Jason van Zyl wrote: On Wed, 2003-02-05 at 15:38, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: http://nagoya.apache.org/wiki/apachewiki.cgi?RuperProposal I've set up a proposal about a Jakarta project for a Repository Project on the wiki. Below is the current content. Maven developers

Re: PMC Nomination

2003-02-19 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 19 Feb 2003, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Wednesday, February 19, 2003, at 12:18 PM, Sam Ruby wrote: The goal is to make all active committers PMC members. Would it be quicker just to make all active committers PMC members by default? If the idea is that every release-manager

Re: [PMC VOTE] PMC Nominations

2003-02-19 Thread Henri Yandell
Nominating like this seems counter-productive. At least in the spirit it usually occurs. ie) lots of +1's thrown about on the list etc. It'll be a nightmare. Why not just go into a nomination phase in which someone [I'm happy to do this if need be] collates a list of nominations, and then the

Re: MS vs Open Source link

2003-02-20 Thread Henri Yandell
I can understand them thinking that. I had my gut feeling on it slightly off for a while, mainly as I was viewing one type of software. ie) Say I grab an LGPL/GPL Java library and incorporate it into my product, which btw I install onto client's machines via jnlp. As I am distributing a

Re: Would Jakarta like to adopt MaybeUpload?

2003-02-21 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Simon Brooke wrote: On Friday 21 Feb 2003 9:18 am, Henri Gomez wrote: Jon Scott Stevens wrote: Why not merge both projects ? I'd be happy to do that. I have working code, and a good, high-level API - much higher level than the commons fileupload package. Also,

Re: [RESULT][PMC VOTE] PMC Nominations

2003-02-21 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, 21 Feb 2003, Jeffrey Dever wrote: Vote results? It unclear even when a vote is taking place and who the nominees are. I thought we just finished a round on the 19th with an agreement that these should be done in batches. Now Pier is up as a nominee again and after one vote from

Re: New Project

2003-02-25 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 25 Feb 2003, Santiago Gala wrote: Federico wrote: Maybe you don't understand me. We have already finished the proxy's heart I cannot compute finished + software together. s/finished/of release\/alpha\/beta quality/ Hen

Re: Another unused import statement report is out...

2003-02-26 Thread Henri Yandell
Anyway of turning off the: Avoid unused local variables such as 'obj' for classes which extend TestCase? It's not something to avoid in a TestCase, as it tests the type of the returned value. These warnings make it hard to see the real problems. Even if it's only a grep for TestCase.java and

RE: Another unused import statement report is out...

2003-02-26 Thread Henri Yandell
On Wed, 26 Feb 2003, Tom Copeland wrote: Hi Henri - Hm, I'm sorry, I don't understand the TestCase thing... are you doing something like: import junit.framework.*; public class FooTest extends TestCase { public void testFiddle() { Object obj = doSomething(); } } or something

Re: Using daedalus to deploy the httpclienttest.war

2003-03-06 Thread Henri Yandell
Afaik, Daedalus/icarus are not likely to have Java containers on them [partly because they're BSD and therefore lack a stable Java and partly because they're just busy]. Maybe Nagoya could be doing this? I know it'd be nice if Jakarta-taglib wars could be deployed somewhere so people can see

Re: Free java profiler tools for open source projects?

2003-03-13 Thread Henri Yandell
I'm guessing it is: EclipseProfiler http://sourceforge.net/projects/eclipsecolorer/ Built in profiler On Thu, 13 Mar 2003, [iso-8859-1] Stéphane Mor wrote: On Thu, Mar 13, 2003 at 11:49:40AM -0500, otisg wrote: I don't know of any commercial profilers that open source developers can use,

Re: so many jars

2003-03-14 Thread Henri Yandell
On Fri, 14 Mar 2003 [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Right, now for my question : The dependancies for many projets are pretty much the same, projets come with the jars they depend on (and some do not) which makes for a lot of duplication. Is there a quick way around this, a quick way to avoid

RE: so many jars

2003-03-14 Thread Henri Yandell
at compile-time maybe :) But you still end up with jar duplication, you just get to avoid having to think about it too much when compiling. On Fri, 14 Mar 2003, Paulo Silveira wrote: You are looking for MAVEN, thats it Jar duplication is history

Re: PMC chair nominations?

2003-03-18 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Sam Ruby wrote: Morgan Delagrange wrote: Sam said that we should obtain nominations for chair from people in the (potentially expanded) PMC ranks by the 16th, followed by [a]n election where every member of the PMC has one vote...to be completed on the 18th.

PMC changes?

2003-03-18 Thread Henri Yandell
Does http://jakarta.apache.org/site/whoweare.html represent the PMC as it currently is, or does it need updating? What's the status of: Future steps will include introduction of a concept of an emeritus PMC member, reinstating prior PMC members who are still active. ? [Sam Ruby, Jan 16th, PMC

Re: PMC changes?

2003-03-18 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Sam Ruby wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: Does http://jakarta.apache.org/site/whoweare.html represent the PMC as it currently is, or does it need updating? From the ASF's perspective, the official list is in the 'committers' cvs repository in a file named board

Re: PMC changes?

2003-03-18 Thread Henri Yandell
Ok ok. Done. On Tue, 18 Mar 2003, Sam Ruby wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: I've updated the site from the file. Btw, Thomas Mahler's name is not in alphabetical order in the file. You updated the site but you didn't update the file? Are you waiting for permission or something

Re: [Proposal] SuperXMailer

2003-04-01 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On Tuesday, April 1, 2003, at 03:21 PM, Tom Copeland wrote: +1 if I could just think of a BUSINESS PROPOSAL that could put this to use Let me help you get started: Hello honored sir, my name is Mkwila Mnembi, and I am the

Re: XDoclet2@Jakarta and LGPL libraries.

2003-04-01 Thread Henri Yandell
Is this reply FAQ/Wiki'd somewhere? Seems to me to be a good set of questions to ask of an LGPL project to cause happiness all around. Assuming it's okay with the powers that be, boards/committees/usuals. Hen On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Can you get Mark Wutka to state that

Re: XDoclet2@Jakarta and LGPL libraries.

2003-04-01 Thread Henri Yandell
On Tue, 1 Apr 2003, Sam Ruby wrote: Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Can you get Mark Wutka to state that his LGPL explicitly permits linking and that section 6 of the LGPL does not apply to end users, etc etc? Is he the copyright holder? If so than you should be good to go (from my

Re: [VOTE] Howard Lewis Ship PMC Nomination

2003-07-03 Thread Henri Yandell
+1 Howard for King On Thu, 3 Jul 2003, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: +1 On 7/3/03 4:59 PM, Howard M. Lewis Ship [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Did anything every happen on this? I remember ACO sending out a message, but I don't know if it every made it to a vote. I'd really like to pursue

Re: Apache != HTTPD

2003-07-17 Thread Henri Yandell
On Thu, 17 Jul 2003, Alex McLintock wrote: Brian McCallister wrote: At 16:28 17/07/03, Erik Price wrote: Spoken out loud, I use Apache Web Server and in writing I use Apache HTTPD. Once the context is clear (that I am referring to the software and not the organization), I typically

RE: mail2.html - mail.html

2003-07-20 Thread Henri Yandell
That's all very well and good. But why do I have to read the rules to go look at the archives? That frustrates me every time I want to search the archives. Hen On Sun, 20 Jul 2003, Danny Angus wrote: I believe the idea is to make people read the rules first, I wouldn't advise changing it

Re: [Apache Newsletter Draft] News on Jakarta in July, 2003

2003-08-01 Thread Henri Yandell
Just thought I'd point out that the Apache Newsletter is sharing namespace with http://www.apacheweek.com/. I've no idea what that's relationship is to ASF. I've been getting it for years and only just realised that it's not from apache.org. So you might have some confused readers. Hen On Fri,

Re: We want to donate a XML / Cocoon / EJB / WebStart - based CMS

2003-08-29 Thread Henri Yandell
Some views: You have a large blob of code with a small number of developers. Some suggest this means you need to get a sourceforge project and get a community going there, but I think that's poor if that's the only way. My recommendation is that you find 3 Apache committers to sponsor your

Jakarta Site/index.html

2003-09-04 Thread Henri Yandell
What's the plan for this? [The redirect we have on the index.html at the moment]. When are we going to remove it. How do we ensure that people don't blow it away when they push up news for a release? I did: cp index.html redirect.html cp index2.html index.html cvs -d :pserver:[EMAIL

Re: Repeat Request: Link to my and ESR's Asking Smart Questions page

2003-09-30 Thread Henri Yandell
your forum carefully. on http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail.html Hen On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Henri Yandell wrote: Will fix. On Tue, 30 Sep 2003, Rick Moen wrote: I realise it's difficult to discern legitimate mail from spam, etc. arriving at webmaster aliases, but this request has been

Re: MPl and ASL compatible?

2003-10-03 Thread Henri Yandell
Depends what you mean by compatible. [IANAL..] BSD licence is a effectively a template licence. ASL is effectively the Apache-instance of a BSD licence. Anything under an ASL licence is owned by Apache. BSD licences are compatible with GPL licences in that if a GPL licence uses a BSD compnent,

Re: Call on Stein to resin

2003-11-10 Thread Henri Yandell
[for amusement value. mine mainly. i don't speak for apache in any way] I too call on Greg to move to Resin. Not that it'll run Python there either, but it'll not run Python faster on port 80. I call on Vik to increase his monthly flames to be once a week, the userbase is demanding more of your

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