Agreed. I've also been suprised by the recent rise in FUD thats coming our
way...
http://www.javaworld.com/javaworld/jw-10-2001/jw-1019-iw-netvsjava.html?
A nice MS marketting strategy seems to be comparing .Net to EJBs rather than
to Java (or Servlets or JAXM or whatnot). Hardly a fair or
JXTA is an attempt to define peer-peer based
protocols. (http://jxta.org)
RMI is client-server and so not the best way of
doing peer based messaging. You might find JMS useful instead for publish /
subscribe or queue based communication. Publish / subscribe is very peer
based.
James
Any plans to do an open source Java implementation of it? :)
Then we could do an open alternative to My Services. 'Open Services' anyone?
:)
James
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From: Chuck Murcko [EMAIL PROTECTED]
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Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 4:05
http://msdn.microsoft.com/net/compare/petshop.asp
Its not a very fair comparison (suprise suprise) but from a quick look at
the source code, it seems MS achieve their performance gains by not using
EJBs :-)
I wonder what the figures would look like if the PetStore were implemented
along similar
From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 10/31/01 6:45 PM, James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
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From: Jon Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
on 10/31/01 1:54 PM, James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
wrote:
It would be interesting to have a Java competition
From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 11/2/01 3:13 AM, Jon Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
on 11/1/01 11:59 PM, Matt Egyhazy [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
perhaps sun should make it more clear that petshop is not a benchmark
and is
instead a multi-faceted example of the
I'd like to be able to add myself (and maintain my bio) to the who we are
page. Could I please have sufficient karma for my user account: jstrachan
Many thanks.
James
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From: Chen, Alan (GSAM) [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Hi,
I wonder if you have any plans to implement an Object Relational mapping
framework.
I am very interested to participate in such a project because I don't see
EJB entity bean as the solution for all developments. In
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From: Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Thu, 27 Dec 2001, robert burrell donkin wrote:
am i right in thinking that for legal reasons we need to
include the complete license text in every source file (rather than just
the short form)?
My
From: Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
on 12/28/01 2:03 AM, James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
I thought I saw a mail go by a month or so ago whereby a short form of
the
licence was allowable in source files that refers the reader to a
LICENSE.txt file?
James
I have said
Hi Jeff
I share your oppinions on EJB. Whenever I ask developers why they are using
EJB the common answer I get from people is 'well I get transactions for
free'. When most of the time they don't do 2 phase commit with their
database anyways. And all that extra work just to get 'acceptable'
Hey Andrew
Insteresting thread ;-)
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From: Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 2002-02-01 at 04:14, James Strachan wrote:
Hi Jeff
I share your oppinions on EJB. Whenever I ask developers why they are
using
EJB the common answer I get from people
From: Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
#1 you don't need to use EJBs to distribute business logic If you do
need to
distribute business logic, then there are various alternatives open,
from
HTTP/Servlets, JMS, SOAP or EJB. Each should be evaluated on their
merits,
cost/benefits etc.
From: acoliver [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On Fri, 1 Feb 2002 18:35:55 - James Strachan
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote.
JMS is not
appropriate for a number of areas.
Like what?
UI, guaranteed failure situations.
I don't follow. JMS/MOM is one of the only solutions where clients and
servers work
I agree Jeff; though for such a smart container to work in an elegant way
I'd prefer to develop the beans in a non-distributed manner and the smart
container do the rest - distributing what it thinks makes sense - along the
EOB / AltRMI lines. Not code to a server side componet API like EJB.
on 2/4/02 8:29 PM, Aaron Smuts [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Could someone explain the issue, especially with reference to JSR107
(JCACHE).
Aaron
Yes. I'm on JSR 107 and I seem to be the only really vocal person there
about my needs. Brian Goetz cares as well, but isn't nearly as vocal.
I think one thing this conversation seems to have highlighted is that
there's plenty of good documentation all over the apache sites, we could
just do with some more sitemap / indexing / searching features to be able to
find stuff.
(quickly ducking before people think I'm volunteering).
James
JavaOne is around the corner. Do any Jakarta folks fancy a JavaOne get
together in a bar somewhere? Maybe Jon's new bar?
James
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From: Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED]
On 3/4/02 1:25 AM, James Strachan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
JavaOne is around the corner. Do any Jakarta folks fancy a JavaOne get
together in a bar somewhere? Maybe Jon's new bar?
I
jakarta.apache.org/ant and jakarta.apache.org/avalon added.
Is jakarta.apache.org/commons in the list - if not can we add that too
please?
James
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Totally agree. Though its worth mentioning that the Servlet, JSP JSTL JSRs
all have their their reference implementations developed at Jakarta (Tomcat
jakarta-taglibs) so there's CVS, a public archived email list and
bugzilla. I do hope that these JSRs start a trend that most/all JSRs open
A thought struck me today which is probably totally obvious to folk but I
thought I'd share it anyways. Sun gets pots of cash from companies who
develop J2EE compliant software from the J2EE license fees. So its in Sun's
interest to protect the BEA's, IBM's and their own J2EE products. The money
I thought this was a good article - apart from arguing that Apache is not a
true open source project in the community sense which I think is just plain
wrong. Its got the best community by far of any open source project I'm
aware of though I guess thats pretty subjective.
Other than that I think
Great news!
http://jcp.org/aboutJava/communityprocess/announce/LetterofIntent.html
James
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From: Peter Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sou you end up with something like following in torque
MyData (The Biz Object)
MyDataVO (The Value Object)
MyDataPeer (The Peer)
AbstractMyData (the abstract biz object)
AbstractMyDataPeer (The abstract Peer)
And the only one decoupled from the
It also uses Xalan/Xerces for it's XPATH/XML requirements
If you want a fast XPath engnie you might find Jaxen useful.
http://jaxen.org
e.g.
http://dom4j.org/benchmarks/xpath/index.html
James
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From: Jon Scott Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED]
on 4/30/02 11:11 AM, Gerhard Froehlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
PS: hmm curious if takes the jon hurdle ;-).
+1.
The proposal and project clearly meet ALL of the requirements set
From: Jeff Martin [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Don't suppose you'd consider putting a link to XMLUnit
http://xmlunit.sf.net/ in the Jelly section. It's always good to try a
bit of shameless publicity seeking ;-)
Its pretty well hidden, but there is a link in the Jelly tag reference...
Try gmane
http://www.gmane.org/
then you can use your favourite news reader software to browse the already
existing mail lists - it supports replies too.
James
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From: Robert Simmons [EMAIL PROTECTED]
To: Jakarta General
From: Danny Angus [EMAIL PROTECTED]
I think this is a terrible idea, unless... we had a mail-news gateway
which would expose the lists as news groups.
They already are.
Point your browser/newsreader at news://news.gmane.org/
or in particular here and follow this thread in your news reader...
From: Costin Manolache [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Maven is a nice tool - and I wish it good luck wherever it goes.
But if Maven charter will include the creation of a maven-only
repository -
I hope at least some board members will vote -1.
I don't see that ever happening. Already the Maven repository
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