Re: Using contents of Jakarta CVSROOT?

2001-02-04 Thread Jeff Turner
Cool :) Attached is some documentation on what all the scripts do, and step by step instructions for installing the whole system on a new CVS repository. --Jeff On Sun, 4 Feb 2001, Jon Stevens wrote: on 2/4/01 12:03 AM, "Jeff Turner" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'd l

Re: The CEO

2001-09-03 Thread Jeff Turner
On Sun, Sep 02, 2001 at 07:48:05PM -0700, Tal Dayan wrote: For all the Microsoft lovers (and not so lovers) in this list. Take a look at http://tal.ontero.net/home/Mocrosoft. This is a 1:15min mpeg file showing Steve Balmar shouting, dancing and getting the Microsoft crowd excited. Is this

Re: Standardized jar manifest entries? (Re: How do you version jar files?)

2001-11-17 Thread Jeff Turner
that suggests there should be a fourth entry like Package-stability: alpha | beta | release so you could a) see this info, and b) decide what version should be used based on stability. d. -Original Message- From: Jeff Turner [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] Sent: Friday, November

[ANN] DoctypeChanger: pre-parse DOCTYPE manipulation

2001-11-19 Thread Jeff Turner
Howdy, I've written up a Java utility, called DoctypeChanger, that I hope could be useful to many people who exchange XML documents. I've mentioned it on jakarta-commons and briefly on general@xml, but I thought I should introduce it properly: Probably the first XML interoperability issue that

Re: Business-Oriented XML

2001-11-16 Thread Jeff Turner
On Fri, Nov 16, 2001 at 08:58:06PM -0800, Dave Jarvis wrote: Hello, again. Neeme Praks wrote: Have you ever had a look at Apache Cocoon project? That achieves all the Yes. benefits you outlined in your paper plus more. Here are a few items BOX addresses that Cocoon does not (as

Re: crushed

2002-01-07 Thread Jeff Turner
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 03:44:50PM -0500, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Guys, This whole experience has become a bit disheartening. Craig McClanahan who is like an idol of mine said this: We will continue to do what we've done in the past -- reject projects that only want the name

Re: crushed

2002-01-07 Thread Jeff Turner
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 03:44:50PM -0500, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Guys, This whole experience has become a bit disheartening. Craig McClanahan who is like an idol of mine said this: We will continue to do what we've done in the past -- reject projects that only want the name

Jakarta code search engine? (Re: crushed)

2002-01-07 Thread Jeff Turner
On Mon, Jan 07, 2002 at 05:59:51PM -0800, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 1/7/02 5:10 PM, Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I see you crying a lot over this but no POSITIVE initiative. That is because I don't see a way to fix the problems and I'm not sure I have the energy to actually go

Re: Proposal: Component survey

2002-01-07 Thread Jeff Turner
This idea was (is) part of the Commons charter: (1.5.2) the directory The subproject will also catalog packages and other resources available to the public related to other Jakarta subprojects and ASF projects. This will be a dynamic catalog, like Bugzilla and Jyve, similar in

Avalon, Commons, once again (Re: Commons Validator Packaging/Content)

2002-01-08 Thread Jeff Turner
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 09:29:18PM +1100, Peter Donald wrote: ... To drive this point home, the subject line of this thread identifies exactly one such set of duplication - between Turbine and Struts. My nagging lead Berin to propose moving the Avalon collections code into commons, to

Re: Commons Validator Packaging/Content

2002-01-08 Thread Jeff Turner
On Tue, Jan 08, 2002 at 10:48:42AM -, Danny Angus wrote: Jon wrote: My opinion is that there are to many peers in the process and that is what is breaking Jakarta. This wasn't a problem until now. We are starting to explode under our own ever growing weight. I've been involved in

Re: contributing to Jakarta

2002-02-27 Thread Jeff Turner
On Tue, Feb 26, 2002 at 10:53:08AM -0800, Joe Labbe wrote: Hello Everyone - I am working on a project porting one of the oldest dynamic content servers to the Java platform. The WebDish Presentation Server was originally released in 93, and in 95 was named as the platform of choice by

ASL vs. GPL page?

2002-03-05 Thread Jeff Turner
Hi, Is there a page somewhere at apache.org, explaining why anyone would want to switch from GPL to ASL? The GNU.org site paints a very inspiring picture of a world of Free Software. It would be nice if there was an Apache equivalent somewhere explaining the Apache philosophy. This could be used

[VOTE] ASL vs. GPL page: is this okay?

2002-03-06 Thread Jeff Turner
Hi, As promised, I've written up an ASL vs. GPL page, for possible inclusion on jakarta-site2. I've more tried to capture the spirit of the thing from the Apache POV, than duplicate the detailed arguments in the O'Reilly article referenced at the end. Please vote on whether you think the

Re: [VOTE] ASL vs. GPL page: is this okay?

2002-03-06 Thread Jeff Turner
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 08:46:51AM +1100, Jeff Turner wrote: Hi, As promised, I've written up an ASL vs. GPL page, for possible inclusion on jakarta-site2. ... Please vote on whether you think the reasons outlined here are sufficiently representative. Constructive criticism and change

Re: [VOTE] ASL vs. GPL page: is this okay?

2002-03-06 Thread Jeff Turner
On Wed, Mar 06, 2002 at 11:38:42PM +0100, Ceki Gülcü wrote: Jeff, Kudos for having the courage to proceed with this. Comments inline. :) It's not easy or fun. At 08:46 07.03.2002 +1100, Jeff Turner wrote: ... Why prefer the ASL to a copyleft license (eg GPL

Re: [VOTE] ASL vs. GPL page: is this okay?

2002-03-06 Thread Jeff Turner
-flavoured introduction to the debate, by introducing the main issue (GPL virality) and showing how that conflicted with Apache's community-orientedness. And then link to the real thing. I kinda think the link off of the Apache Manual was fine... +1 --Jeff -Andy On Wed, 2002-03-06 at 16:46, Jeff

news@jakarta list? (Re: Introducing Enterprise Object Broker)

2002-03-07 Thread Jeff Turner
On Thu, Mar 07, 2002 at 06:03:21PM +, Pier Fumagalli wrote: Paul Hammant [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Folks, Enterprise Object Broker (EOB) is an application server that tries to a be a simpler EJB container. It is not complete yet, but we have many demos showing local, remote, and

News, RSS, blogs, Cocoon (Re: news@jakarta list?)

2002-03-08 Thread Jeff Turner
On Fri, Mar 08, 2002 at 12:00:11PM +0100, Santiago Gala wrote: ... Then could we perhaps have a news@jakarta list for this sort of thing? A lot of people find announcements like this relevant and interesting. On a related (technological) note: We Jetspeed people (actually Raphael Lutta)

Re: Krysalis, Centipede, Generating docs with Cocoon?

2002-03-21 Thread Jeff Turner
On Fri, Mar 22, 2002 at 12:10:13PM +1100, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I downloaded Krysalis and Centipede, hoping to find some easy way of building docs, but I was sorely disappointed. You have to know a ton of stuff about Cocoon, Cocoon's 'book' format (which isn't DocBook), and the other

Re: Krysalis, Centipede, Generating docs with Cocoon?

2002-03-21 Thread Jeff Turner
Answered offlist. In the meanwhile, everyone pay homage to the jakarta-site2 docs: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jakarta-site2.html and acknowledge that anything less ain't good enough for everyday Jakarta use. The DVSL-based system that Jason van Zyl mentioned sounds best: Yup, that's my

Re: subproject layout conventions

2002-03-27 Thread Jeff Turner
On Wed, Mar 27, 2002 at 03:23:35PM -0800, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 3/27/02 2:26 PM, Steven Noels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: All this and more is being tackled (slowly but steadily) in Forrest - and having some Jakarta people involved for cross-pollination would be good. There's not

Re: Advertisement using Apache lists

2002-05-13 Thread Jeff Turner
On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 09:54:48AM +0100, Alex McLintock wrote: At 09:02 13/05/2002, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: I would like to encourage information about commercial entities that support Apache software, but I really have no clue about how it should be done. I too am setting up an

Re: Advertisement using Apache lists

2002-05-13 Thread Jeff Turner
On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 02:04:20PM +0200, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: .. Perhaps we should just adopt a simple subject line convention, [ADV] for adverts, to go with [ANN] for announcements. I've noticed too that the annoumcement list stuff gets CCd to other lists. How about having all

Re: Advertisement using Apache lists

2002-05-13 Thread Jeff Turner
On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 01:20:24PM +0100, Alex McLintock wrote: At 13:13 13/05/2002, Jeff Turner wrote: On Mon, May 13, 2002 at 09:54:48AM +0100, Alex McLintock wrote: At 09:02 13/05/2002, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: I would like to encourage information about commercial entities

Re: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...

2002-05-25 Thread Jeff Turner
On Sat, May 25, 2002 at 02:04:24PM +0100, Pier Fumagalli wrote: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 25 May 2002, Pier Fumagalli wrote: If you are a commiter - you have the same rights with all other commiters. If you don't want to exercise some rights - it's your choice.

Re: [Poll result] Committers, who are we?

2002-10-04 Thread Jeff Turner
Carnegie Mellon did a survey of ~300 Apache developers (56 committers) a while ago, and posted interim results to respondents last month. With the permission of the researcher, here are some stats: On Thu, Oct 03, 2002 at 03:35:18PM +0100, Danny Angus wrote: Vincent Massol once wrote: I

Re: Developer wishes to donate project to Apache

2002-10-13 Thread Jeff Turner
and performance. From: Jeff Turner [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 1 Sep 2002 14:42:35 +1000 To: Frank Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: TestMaker as subproject Hi, This looks very interesting. I'm trying to download the source to have a play. I've downloaded CVS modules

Re: Newsletter - Request for content

2003-01-08 Thread Jeff Turner
On Wed, Jan 08, 2003 at 12:46:25PM -, Rob Oxspring wrote: As you can see the timetable has slipped a bit! However, there doesn't seem to be a lot to go in this issue (just an entry for lucene + whatever I write to summarise general@) and I was wondering whether it was worth bothering