Re: What is Struts? (was: Re: What is Avalon?)

2001-02-01 Thread Jon Stevens
on 2/1/01 5:22 PM, "Craig R. McClanahan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Coding an app to the Turbine connection pool's API is certainly feasible, and it will run in this kind of environment -- but you will not be using the container's built in facilities, which allow containers to implement

Re: What is Struts? (was: Re: What is Avalon?)

2001-02-01 Thread Jon Stevens
on 2/1/01 5:13 PM, "Sam Ruby" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Both the impending Tomcat 3.3 and Tomcat 4.0 look considerably different internally than the original Tomcat 3.0. But the overwhelming majority of the servlets that ran on Tomcat 3.0 will run on either. The reason? The much maligned

[NOISE] Yaaaaaaaaawwwwnnnnnnnnnnn....

2001-02-06 Thread Jon Stevens
http://java.sun.com/features/2001/02/launch.html http://www.techweb.com/wire/story/TWB20010205S0031 This makes me sad. This just solidifies the fact that all Sun is trying to do is copy M$ and not actually innovate anything because JSP is nothing better than a Java version of ASP. Come on guys,

Re: What is Jakarta?

2001-02-06 Thread Jon Stevens
on 2/6/01 5:04 PM, "Ted Husted" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I still don't quite get why this is such an issue. The efficiency of a pool comes from sharing connections that use the same login to the same database. It would be likely that Jetspeed, Turbine, and Struts may all want to connect to

bugs

2001-02-07 Thread Jon Stevens
someone going to update this with the new information? http://jakarta.apache.org/site/bugs.html also, it would be nice if http://nagoya.apache.org had an index.html that also pointed to the right url to the bug tracking system. thanks, -jon

You make the decision. (Mini-Essay #1)

2001-02-09 Thread Jon Stevens
Hey all, this is just the start of more coverage on why JSP sucks. I will eventually compile these mini-essay's into an essay titled "You make the decision." and publish it on the web somewhere (in other words, I'm collecting information). Key: "" - quotes from the article [] -

Re: What is Struts? (was: Re: What is Avalon?)

2001-02-10 Thread Jon Stevens
on 2/10/01 11:06 AM, "Jim Driscoll" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This is not entirely true. If it was trivial, someone would have cranked it out over a weekend. Heck, you've got the source code (in SCSL) - why don't YOU do it. I bet that more people would be willing to contribute to Sun's

Re: What is Struts? (was: Re: What is Avalon?)

2001-02-11 Thread Jon Stevens
on 2/11/01 2:47 AM, "Jim Driscoll" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And contribs didn't fall into a black hole, which is way more important than the license. Yup. That probably had way more to do with tying to the Apache brand than the OS nature of the licensing terms. If Sun'd released Tomcat

Re: Backing out...(was: Re: What is Jakarta?)

2001-02-11 Thread Jon Stevens
on 2/11/01 7:31 AM, "Jan-Henrik Haukeland" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You're not only a pain in the ass Jon, but an inconsistent pain in the ass. What's the point in saying goodbye and then keep on posting? Go back and read my email again. What I said is that I was not going to take part in

Re: Test Infrastructure Project Proposal

2001-02-12 Thread Jon Stevens
on 2/12/01 12:38 PM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: "Why didn't I start working with JUnit instead of creating our own testing environment?" No. My statement really is: Why don't you look to see if you can work with the JUnit community to extend JUnit to do

Re: [GUMP] Any James developers here?

2001-02-14 Thread Jon Stevens
on 2/14/01 2:38 PM, "Federico Barbieri" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ok, so can we agree on this: /home/cvs/jakarta-avalon-foo /home/cvs/jakarta-avalon-bar /home/cvs/jakarta-avalon-whatever /home/cvs/jakarta-avalon-peter /home/cvs/jakarta-avalon-federico /home/cvs/jakarta-avalon-yourmother

Re: [POLL] Re: Code Sharing Concepts

2001-02-15 Thread Jon Stevens
on 2/15/01 3:24 PM, "Craig R. McClanahan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: However, I would not recommend it ... the turbine-pool.jar file drags along ~40 classes of Turbine infrastructure that aren't useful unless you are running inside Turbine. What *exactly* is the problem with that? Of course,

Re: [GUMP] Any James developers here?

2001-02-17 Thread Jon Stevens
on 2/17/01 4:06 PM, "Peter Donald" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: kewl but they will have to vote me access first ;) Cheers, Pete avail|brian,duncan,jon,donaldp,charlesb,serge,fede,bburns|jakarta-james Nope. You already have access. -jon -- If you come from a Perl or PHP background, JSP is

Re: [GUMP] Any James developers here?

2001-02-18 Thread Jon Stevens
on 2/18/01 12:27 AM, "Federico Barbieri" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That's fine with me. so let's ge for jakarta-avalon jakarta-avalon-phoenix jakarta-avalon-cornerstone Is it ok with everybody? Fede +1 (going round and round and round...) -jon

Re: Test Infrastructure Project Proposal

2001-02-19 Thread Jon Stevens
on 2/19/01 7:45 AM, "Ted Husted" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So what he would like to see is a message that starts with "I proposed these changes to the JUnit group, but they weren't interested. Is this something we could do instead?" -Ted. Yea, at least someone hears me correctly. -jon

Re: What's up with Avalon?

2001-02-20 Thread Jon Stevens
Ok, I'm confused now. What Avalon related files do I need to copy over from working-dogs.com in order to do simple things like maintain the history of the files? ... And where do I need to put them? -jon - To unsubscribe,

Re: Q: is there a Streaming-Server (RTSP,RTP) as a sibblingproject t o Apache and Tomcat?

2001-02-20 Thread Jon Stevens
on 2/20/01 7:10 AM, "Paul Furbacher" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Am I missing something here? I think it would be a very bad idea. It would attempt to duplicate a huge body of existing open source code: http://www.opensource.apple.com//projects/streaming/ As I see it, there is absolutely

Re: Avalon mailing list...

2001-02-20 Thread Jon Stevens
on 2/20/01 7:38 PM, "Pier P. Fumagalli" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The Avalon mailing list is currently [EMAIL PROTECTED], but the current CVS status says that it's a Jakarta project (jakarta-avalon*)... Wouldn't it be wise to change it to [EMAIL PROTECTED]? Pier Yup. Please move all

Re: Test Infrastructure Project Proposal

2001-02-21 Thread Jon Stevens
on 2/21/01 10:05 PM, "Kevin A. Burton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The goals are to move it back under Apache as long as we can keep the dual LGPL/APL License. Kevin Sorry. That won't happen (as far as I know). The ASF board would never go for it. -jon -- If you come from a Perl or PHP

Re: Test Infrastructure Project Proposal

2001-02-22 Thread Jon Stevens
on 2/22/01 2:58 PM, "Kevin A. Burton" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think it is worth while to make the argument that as long as it is *either* GPL or APL the license can still be under Apache. Why??? You can still use the APL as much as you want... the only thing we are allowing is that now

Re: Patches for jakarta-site2?

2001-02-24 Thread Jon Stevens
on 2/24/01 5:36 PM, "Nico Seessle" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Where should I send Patches for jakarta-site2 to? Nico I can take them. however, the following [EMAIL PROTECTED] can also take them as well. grep jakarta-site avail

FW: [Fwd: regarding the installation problem]

2001-02-27 Thread Jon Stevens
someone care to point this guy towards the clue train? -jon -- From: naresh makwana [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Friday, February 23, 2001 10:26 AM To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: regarding the installation problem SIR, MY NAME IS NARESH MAKWANA.T HAVE DONE JAVA. I HAVA DOWNLOADED BINARY

FW: [Fwd: Tomcat distribution cooperation]

2001-02-27 Thread Jon Stevens
more clue train's needed... fyi, i removed the attached 1.5 megs of PDF files. if you really think you need them to answer the question let me know. -jon -- From: Raanan Cohen [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sunday, February 25, 2001 8:28 AM To: "'[EMAIL PROTECTED]'" [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject:

Re: [Fwd: regarding the installation problem]

2001-02-27 Thread Jon Stevens
on 2/27/01 3:03 PM, "Adam Fowler" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You need to specify the amount of memory that tomcat starts with. This has been explained in the last two days on the tomcat user mailing list ([EMAIL PROTECTED]) Have a read and follow the instructions. Sigh. Thank you for answering

Re: Test Infrastructure Project Proposal

2001-02-27 Thread Jon Stevens
on 2/27/01 4:09 PM, "Peter Donald" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It ain't matter what the ASF permits as the GPL does not permit it ;) Then don't use the GPL. (round and round and round and round) -jon -- If you come from a Perl or PHP background, JSP is a way to take your pain to new levels.

Re: ceki's name

2001-03-04 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/4/01 11:47 AM, "Sam Ruby" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon Stevens wrote: Gump is dictating. Ok, so if you die who is going to do the upload? Gump is open source. Anybody can run it. This is an odd argument anyway - why don't you object to the nightly builds of An

Re: ceki's name

2001-03-04 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/4/01 12:27 PM, "Sam Ruby" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sometimes you say that extra steps are bad as it causes mistakes, other times you say that the extra steps help ensure that mistakes aren't being made. Yes. Some steps are bad and some steps are good. Bad: rm -rf /

Re: [PATCH] jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/mail2.xml

2001-03-05 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/5/01 9:46 AM, "Christopher Elkins" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, all. I have insufficient karma to apply the following patch, so I'm forwarding it here. -- Christopher Elkins checked in. thanks. i also gave you karma for the next time. :-) -jon -- If you come from a Perl or PHP

Re: Mod_java status

2001-03-05 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/5/01 12:48 PM, "Robson Ribas" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What happened to mod_java ? There is no link to it on java.apache.org neither on jakarta.apache.org. Was this project closed or discontinued or something ? Yup. It's dead. The cvs tree is available from the CVS index page on the

monthly pmc meeting?

2001-03-06 Thread Jon Stevens
when is it again? -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: [PROPOSAL] The Commons

2001-03-06 Thread Jon Stevens
1 to see this happen. thanks, -jon stevens -- If you come from a Perl or PHP background, JSP is a way to take your pain to new levels. --Anonymous http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ymtd/ymtd.html - To unsubscribe, e-ma

Re: [PROPOSAL] The Commons

2001-03-07 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/7/01 5:08 AM, "Sam Ruby" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jon Stevens wrote: 7: Should provide an interface or implement a Sun defined interface. s/Sun defined/standard/ - Sam Ruby define standard. http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ymtd/ymtd-implementation.html -jon -- I

Re: [PROPOSAL] The Commons

2001-03-07 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/7/01 5:21 AM, "Ted Husted" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: How about: 7. In general, packages should provide an interface and one or more implementations of that interface, or implement another standard interface (e.g. one defined by Sun). -1 I don't like the implication that something

Re: [PROPOSAL] The Commons

2001-03-07 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/7/01 4:57 AM, "Ted Husted" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I feel strongly that there should be a combined user/dev list for each package, and I personally stand by the statement in the FAQ. This will fail for new projects. Reason: community building. To create a community, you need a single

account creation documentation

2001-03-07 Thread Jon Stevens
FYI, I documented the Jakarta process of asking for permission for new account creation by the projects so that I can distribute my load a bit. Under the Committers heading: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/roles.html Specifics: "Once there are 3 positive votes, someone from the

Re: [PROPOSAL] The Commons

2001-03-08 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/8/01 8:57 AM, "Ceki Glc" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: To summarize, I think that as an organization we should consider APIs on the basis of their merit and their respective advantages/disadvantages. Saying that we should adopt API XYZ just because it is Sun sponsored is not the wisest way

Re: Jakarta PMC election results

2001-03-08 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/8/01 11:44 AM, "Morgan Delagrange" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi all, I have no objection to the elections, but for the benefit of the Jakarta members, could a current PMC member please list the PMC members (current and proposed) and which projects they are qualified to represent? I

status?

2001-03-12 Thread Jon Stevens
what is the status of integrating ted's changes into the main website? when is the next meeting? who is on first? what is on second? -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL

email snafu

2001-03-13 Thread Jon Stevens
Due to an email snafu, I haven't been reading this group for about a week now. :-( I apologize if I missed something. I will try to catch up. -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: Contibuting to the Jakarta Project

2001-03-13 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/12/01 4:12 PM, "Ted Husted" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: This sums up "How to get involved" rather nicely http://w4.metronet.com/~wjm/tomcat/2000/Nov/msg00073.html It sounds like you might want to share your mod_jk patch with the Tomcat-Dev list. Instead of just repeatedly pasting

Re: NNTP access

2001-03-13 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/12/01 10:48 AM, "Remy Maucherat" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I was checking out netbeans, and I noticed on their news page that they now had NNTP access to some of their mailing lists. Since netbeans.org is hosted by collab.net, I was wondering if it would be possible to get

Re: [PROPOSAL] The Commons

2001-03-13 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/9/01 1:15 PM, "David Duddleston" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Just another rant Even after a few years, it still bugs me that license and copyright mark on each piece of Apache code is so darn long. Even a dog knows it only takes a few drops to marks its territory. -david Tell that

Re: Directory layout feedback

2001-03-14 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/14/01 4:02 PM, "Conor MacNeill" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ceki, I would like to give you some feedback on the common directory layout http://jakarta.apache.org/site/dirlayout.html This is mostly from my Ant perspective and somewhat from my impression of some other common practices

jakarta-site2

2001-03-14 Thread Jon Stevens
hey all, the jakarta-site2 module is going to be a bit unstable for a few hours, so please don't scream at me when things aren't working. i'm fixing some pretty big issues in Anakia right now. i apologize for the instability. -jon

Re: jakarta-site2

2001-03-14 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/14/01 7:08 PM, "Jon Stevens" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hey all, the jakarta-site2 module is going to be a bit unstable for a few hours, so please don't scream at me when things aren't working. i'm fixing some pretty big issues in Anakia right now. i apologize for the i

Re: Bug

2001-03-15 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/13/01 5:04 PM, "Toran Kanazawa" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: iCalendar link is not working at: http://jakarta.apache.org/jetspeed/site/index.html I need to have information regarding: how to use iCalendar ! Thanks. Toran Kanazawa Software Engineer Talk City Marketing Group, Inc.

Re: Amendments to site

2001-03-17 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/17/01 6:20 AM, "Charles Benett" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is the procedure: The procedure is documented on the website: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/jakarta-site2.html " Once your changes have been checked in, you can do the following: cd /www/jakarta.apache.org cvs update index.html

Re: Request karma

2001-03-17 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/17/01 9:07 AM, "Charles Benett" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Can I get karma to commit to jakarta-site2? Thanks, Charles done. -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: encoding problems with Jakarta-site

2001-03-17 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/17/01 10:02 AM, "Robert Burrell Donkin" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: FileWriter uses the system default encoding which is MacRoman (latin-1) roll your own "ISO-8859-1" FileWriter OutputStreamWriter fw=new OutputStreamWriter( new FileOutputStream("text.html"),"ISO-8859-1"); Ahh...ok...I

Re: Mail Question?

2001-03-18 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/18/01 10:32 PM, "Peter Donald" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Is there anyway to set it up so that ezmlm will allow certain mail addresses "through" without being subscribed. Yes, the moderator of the list does that. You can moderate "allow" a moderated message by simply Reply-To-All (notice

ant?

2001-03-19 Thread Jon Stevens
http://httpd.apache.org/dist/ant/ what the hell is that doing there? -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: ant?

2001-03-19 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/19/01 12:01 PM, "Jon Stevens" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: http://httpd.apache.org/dist/ant/ what the hell is that doing there? -jon i just got rid of it. it was duplicated with what is in the /www/jakarta.apache.org/builds directo

Re: Make Jakarta home page more like Apache XML's

2001-03-19 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/19/01 2:15 PM, "Scott Langley" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So why can't the Jakarta home page offer sub project descriptions like these? Because you didn't bother to contribute them before. How many times do I need to repeat that this is a volunteer organization before someone will "get

Re: New Subprojects

2001-03-22 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/22/01 2:15 PM, "James House" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Project 1: an Enterprise Job Scheduler = Both Avalon and Turbine offer this. Project 2: a Workflow Engine / Process Automator = This is something we need as

Re: Struts, velocity, turbine, jetspeed, lions, tigers andbears... oh my

2001-03-22 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/22/01 5:36 PM, "Kuster, Egon" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: which one has been around longer? Turbine has been around *a lot* longer (we are talking years at this point). I gave a +1 to Struts being started because Craig said that he wanted to work together. That ended up not being the case

Re: New Subprojects

2001-03-22 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/22/01 7:23 PM, "Peter Donald" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No it couldn't from what I understand. Commons won't allow imports directly from turbine/avalon and to try to do such a complex system generic from start may be a bit of a PITA at this stage. Especially when both turbine/avalon

Re: New Subprojects

2001-03-22 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/22/01 7:34 PM, "Conor MacNeill" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: That is what makes the Commons a difficult project, there is often a natural desire to make it into a framework. ie: Turbine LOL! This cracks me up... Maybe one day people will realize that it is significantly easier to just

Re: Struts, velocity, turbine, jetspeed, lions, tigers and bears... oh my

2001-03-23 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/22/01 10:48 PM, "Craig R. McClanahan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: But if the best argument for Turbine is that "JSP sucks balls", I'd keep looking for some rational reasoning if I were you. :-) http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ymtd/ymtd.html That is about 10 pages of clearly laid

Re: New Subprojects

2001-03-23 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/22/01 10:51 PM, "Craig R. McClanahan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So, are you planning to propose these as reusable components after jumping up and down about sharing? I have been jumping up and down about sharing for years now...suddenly you have decided to start listening AND

Re: Struts, velocity, turbine, jetspeed, lions, tigers and bears... oh my

2001-03-23 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/23/01 1:16 AM, "Gunnar R|nning" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: So where did _you_ borrow actions from. GoF maybe ? Seriously while Turbine might be thr right thing for some people, it is not the right thing for others. I got serious problems with tying my applications to a product where there

Re: New Subprojects

2001-03-23 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/23/01 2:42 AM, "Alex Fernndez" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: we use standard interfaces when they exist, otherwise we define one. What is standard? http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ymtd/ymtd-implementation.html -jon -- If you come from a Perl or PHP background, JSP is a way to take your

Re: WARNING. You sent a potential virus or unauthorised code

2001-03-23 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/23/01 8:24 AM, "Santiago Gala" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I've just received this. I comment down. Their system is crappy. I have had several flamewars with these people about their "virus detection" software which just loves to send tons of those emails when it detects a long subject line.

builds directory cleanup

2001-03-24 Thread Jon Stevens
Hi all, I'm trying to clean up (ie: remove) all the symlinks in the builds directory and add some consistency. I will be removing the following symlinks: namepointed at tomcat jakarta-tomcat jakarta-servlet-api-4.0 jakarta-servlet-api-4 ant

Re: [PROPOSAL] J2EEUnit donation to ASF

2001-03-27 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/27/01 8:29 AM, "Jon Stevens" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: #3. I'm worried about the name. Given that Sun owns the trademark for "J2EE" and seem to take it pretty seriously, they *might* have a problem with us having a product with that in the name...regardless of whether

Re: [PROPOSAL] J2EEUnit donation to ASF

2001-03-27 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/27/01 9:26 AM, "Ted Husted" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I understand that Victor is now changing the license, and incrementing the version number. Does Victor have the express copyright on all of the code that was submitted under the GPL license? If not, then approval by each contributor

Re: [PROPOSAL] J2EEUnit donation to ASF

2001-03-27 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/27/01 9:57 AM, "Vincent Massol" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Yes. My name is Vincent, although Victor is also a nice name ... :) Ok, I wrote vincent and then say victor in another email and changed it to that...sigh... OK ... sigh If you have ideas, they are welcome ... I like:

Re: [PROPOSAL] J2EEUnit donation to ASF

2001-03-29 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/29/01 10:50 AM, "Martin Cooper" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: It seems to me the '2' could go, because that's nailing it to a version, and the second 'E' could go because we don't need an Edition. Then we're left with JEUnit for Java Enterprise Unit testing framework. That's not so bad.

PGP Key for Jakarta Project

2001-03-29 Thread Jon Stevens
this key with their key in order to build up a valid trust network. So, what I'm asking for is others to also bring their PGP keys. thanks, -jon stevens -- If you come from a Perl or PHP background, JSP is a way to take your pain to new levels. --Anonymous http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ymtd

Sun Article On Velocity

2001-03-30 Thread Jon Stevens
Velocity 1.0 will be released on Monday 4-2-01 (the article was published early). http://dcb.sun.com/practices/profiles/velocity.jsp :-) -jon -- If you come from a Perl or PHP background, JSP is a way to take your pain to new levels. --Anonymous

Re: Sun Article On Velocity

2001-03-30 Thread Jon Stevens
on 3/30/01 2:17 PM, "Craig R. McClanahan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Congrats on your upcoming release! Thanks Craig! :-) And it's refreshing to see Jon type a smiley after typing the ".jsp" in the above URL. :-) Yea, the best quote in the article... The Model-View-Controller Model

[ANNOUNCE] Velocity 1.0 Released

2001-04-02 Thread Jon Stevens
The Velocity project is pleased to announce the release of Version 1.0 of the Velocity template engine. Velocity is a powerful template engine written in Java and released as open-source software under the Apache Software License. Sun's Dot-Com Builder developer information site just did a

Re: [ANNOUNCE] Nagoya service interruption notice

2001-04-02 Thread Jon Stevens
on 4/2/01 4:24 PM, "horwat" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Note: the bugzilla database and tomcat-test cvs repositories will be unavailable during this time. why is there a CVS repo on nagoya? aren't all cvs repo's supposed to be on the main jakarta.apache.org box? -jon

Re: General question

2001-04-10 Thread Jon Stevens
on 4/10/01 5:43 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I am running apache web server on OS X. I downloaded the jakarta package. I need to know where to place teh jakarta package so it will work properly. I don't know how to "install" it or maybe configure the conf files. Please

Re: Next PMC meeting times?

2001-04-12 Thread Jon Stevens
on 4/12/01 8:42 AM, "Sam Ruby" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: B: 4PM California 7PM NY 2000GMT 2200Zurich 0600Melbourne (Tuesday) I vote for B. :-) -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: Binaries in CVS

2001-04-12 Thread Jon Stevens
on 4/12/01 10:37 AM, "Ceki Glc" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, I suppose this horse was thoroughly beaten to death but I still would like to hear about the pros and cons of including binary files in CVS. The advantages are: - By including required jar files for an application, the

Re: Binaries in CVS

2001-04-12 Thread Jon Stevens
on 4/12/01 10:25 AM, "[EMAIL PROTECTED]" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: One issue may be that each project will include ant, xerces, xalan, etc, with the same or slightly different version. That doesn't really matter and is the projects decision, right? One compromise may be to use a separate

Re: Binaries in CVS

2001-04-12 Thread Jon Stevens
on 4/12/01 11:21 AM, "Sam Ruby" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: set CLASSPATH=%CLASSPATH%;.\ant-1.2.jar;.\ant-1.2-optional.jar set CLASSPATH=%CLASSPATH%;..\lib\xerces-1.3.0.jar set CLASSPATH=%CLASSPATH%;..\lib\velocity-1.0b2-dev.jar set CLASSPATH=%CLASSPATH%;..\..\jakarta-site2\lib\jdom-b6.jar No

Re: Binaries in CVS

2001-04-12 Thread Jon Stevens
on 4/12/01 11:37 AM, "Kief Morris" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Sam Ruby typed the following on 02:21 PM 4/12/2001 -0400 Jon Stevens wrote: Sam doesn't like it? :-) What Sam doesn't like early binding to specific versions. The various Avalon projects are excellent exampl

Re: Binaries in CVS

2001-04-12 Thread Jon Stevens
on 4/12/01 12:00 PM, "Sam Ruby" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I stand corrected. A 1.5K file that is not even well-formed XML and an empty directory. Created and abandoned last year. My appologies. At this rate, perhaps my grandkids will be able to use CJAN. - Sam Ruby P.S. This is

Re: Jakarta FAQ

2001-04-13 Thread Jon Stevens
on 4/12/01 8:14 PM, "Remy Maucherat" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I'd like to get an account on the Jakarta FAQ. I read what is there : http://jakarta.apache.org:8080/jyve-faq/Turbine/screen/DisplayProjects I talked with Alex, but apparently the account activation failed, and I couldn't

Re: Binaries in CVS

2001-04-13 Thread Jon Stevens
on 4/13/01 8:49 AM, "Craig R. McClanahan" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I updated the bio information before the conference (DAT was my employer prior to Sun). They must be using a VB app or something -- the update never got committed :-). I'll try again. No, they probably use JSP. :-) -jon

Re: mod_jk.so vs mod_jk.dll for Win32 and Apache 1.3.19

2001-04-14 Thread Jon Stevens
on 4/13/01 8:36 PM, "Ellis Teer" [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I currently use Apache1.3.14 + Tomcat 3.2.1 + mod_jk.dll on Win32. I recently tried to upgrade to Apache 1.3.19. When I try the LoadModule command in the server configuration file on mod_jk using the mod_jk.dll file the server

Re: PMC meeting minutes

2001-04-26 Thread Jon Stevens
on 4/26/01 2:28 AM, Ceki Gülcü [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello, Are the last PMC meeting minutes available? Ceki It is on my todo list. -jon - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail:

Re: Tomcat Source

2001-04-27 Thread Jon Stevens
on 4/27/01 4:27 AM, Tod Thomas [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm getting a directory checksum error un-tarring the jakarta-tomcat-3.2.1 source tarball. Has anybody else run into this? Thanks - Tod Details: --- Solaris8 gunzip v1.2.4 jakarta-tomcat-3.2.1-src.tar.gz Use GNU tar. -jon

Re: Need Help

2001-04-27 Thread Jon Stevens
on 4/26/01 12:33 AM, Arun Kumar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I am working on Tomcat Version 3.2.1 every thing is working fine except when i refresh my html page which in Thank you for spending all that time and effort ignoring the documentation that tells you not to send HTML email and to

Re: Help !

2001-04-27 Thread Jon Stevens
on 4/27/01 4:55 AM, Bruno Crapart [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: What does it mean ? java.io.IOException: The filename, directory name, or volume label syntax is incorrect at java.io.Win32FileSystem.canonicalize(Native Method) at java.io.File.getCanonicalPath(File.java:437)

Re: Wanting to write the JNLP support code for the Jakarta project

2001-04-27 Thread Jon Stevens
on 4/27/01 1:09 PM, Mauro Marinilli [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Everybody, I am a serious Java developer with many years of working experience on Java. I am currently working with JNLP, the new remote launching protocol developed at Sun, that currently reached version 1.0.1 early

Re: bug report handling

2001-04-27 Thread Jon Stevens
on 4/27/01 2:22 PM, Daniel F. Savarese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Apologies to all affected by my rather hasty reactions. daniel I would rather you be hasty than to simply ignore the issue tracker. :-) -jon - To

Re: [Bug 1346] Changed - substitue gives strange result

2001-04-27 Thread Jon Stevens
on 4/27/01 1:25 PM, Daniel F. Savarese [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Who changed the status of this bug (the one at the end of this message) to VERIFIED? The original reporter did: [EMAIL PROTECTED]bug_statusRESOLVEDVERIFIED2001-04-25 14:28:48

Re: RSS problems

2001-04-29 Thread Jon Stevens
on 4/29/01 5:22 AM, Santiago Gala [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Comments? Thank you for volunteering. -jon -- If you come from a Perl or PHP background, JSP is a way to take your pain to new levels. --Anonymous http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity/ymtd/ymtd.html

Re: Email list admin

2001-05-03 Thread Jon Stevens
on 5/3/01 1:44 AM, Charles Benett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi! Can whoever has appropriate access unset the: X-No-Archive: yes header from the following lists: james-user, james-dev, avalon-cvs, turbine-user That header stops archiving at mailarchive.com. (Alternatively, tell me

Re: [PROPOSAL] Jakarta-Turbine-Jyve

2001-05-05 Thread Jon Stevens
on 5/5/01 9:54 AM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I think this is an important question, since the natural outcome of our providing open source frameworks is that people will eventually provide open source applications based on those frameworks. For example, I'm launching an online

Re: Proposed dirlayout document

2001-05-07 Thread Jon Stevens
on 5/7/01 10:02 AM, Craig R. McClanahan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Bottom line -- having an intermediate build directory substantially improves the turnaround time for me as a Tomcat developer. Craig #1. Compile #2. Build #3. Release Each step inherits from the previous step. -jon -- If

Re: Question version 1.1

2001-05-11 Thread Jon Stevens
on 5/11/01 7:19 PM, Michael G. Anderson [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: See Question version 1.0! Is version 3.2.2 beta 5 the latest? or is Tomcat 4(4.4) the latest? What is the latest version? What am I missing? What is going on... Yea...having two versions of Tomcat is wonderful! Not.

[proposal] Jakarta Deprecation Policy

2001-05-15 Thread Jon Stevens
Well, there haven't been many flame wars around here recently, so let me start one. I seem to be good at that. :-) What I propose is that we take this document (or one similar to it) and migrate it up to the overall Jakarta Project instead of just being a Turbine policy and get all the projects

Re: Contributing Open Source Developers

2001-05-15 Thread Jon Stevens
By sending this email to people directly as a BCC, you are hurting the concept of information sharing because no one else will find out what the answer is. So, I'm CC'ing general@jakarta with my response. on 5/15/01 3:51 PM, Harris Mir [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, I took your email address

Re: Consequences

2001-05-18 Thread Jon Stevens
on 5/18/01 3:37 PM, Andrew Burgess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Anybody, This is my first post, and I'm more than a little intimidated, but this is a serious question. I' m concerned about the consequences of the fact that I'm running Tomcat on a platform where the

Re: Consequences

2001-05-18 Thread Jon Stevens
on 5/18/01 8:08 PM, Andrew Burgess [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I read the rules and the archives before I subscribed to any of the lists. To rephrase the question: Does IBM get pissed off if you run Jakarta projects on their mainframes, such that you jeopardize your support contracts with them?

Re: Consequences

2001-05-20 Thread Jon Stevens
getting pissed off if you put a Jakarta project on one of their computers... does it jeopardize your support contract with them. And the answer is generally no, they don't care unless it causes excess problems with the system. Rod. On Friday 18 May 2001 23:34, Jon Stevens wrote: on 5/18/01

Re: Bugzilla

2001-05-21 Thread Jon Stevens
on 5/21/01 8:53 AM, Charles Benett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Well, this is all as clear as mud! Could you either do or tell me how to: 1) add James as a program 2) add 1.2.1 as a version 3) add the following components: SMTP Server; POP3 Server; Mailet Engine; Mailet API Thanks,

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