Re: Bugzilla usage

2002-05-22 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Are you refering to the perl scripts in CVSROOT (which I use heavily, thanx:)).. ? Mvgr, Martin On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 17:54, John McNally wrote: On Tue, 2002-05-21 at 07:14, Pier Fumagalli wrote: Great, Andy, you're recruited... We need to get Scarab 1.0b7 up on Nagoya. The only issue I

Re: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...

2002-05-25 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Even though I am not a committer / member (I try to contribute code however), I just needed to express my opinion ;). I am a +1 on Piers proposal. Especially the membership possibility for people who are not coding can be very constructive for this community! Designers, politicians,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...

2002-05-25 Thread Martin van den Bemt
as a sysadmin/co-list moderator, but to no avail, although some were complaining about lack of time. This new proposal will leave this kind of involvement at least open. Mvgr, Martin On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 16:49, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 10:44, Martin van den Bemt wrote: Even

Re: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...

2002-05-25 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Server to chapel hill, Step 2. Install Scarab on it for practice, Step 3. install here) It's broken now indeed ;) On the turbine list they are still saying that I have to use that to get bugs... Mvgr, Martin -Andy On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 11:05, Martin van den Bemt wrote: Andy

Re: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...

2002-05-25 Thread Martin van den Bemt
-- jt (who is afraid Pier will do a mailing list search on him and realize how little value he brings to the community =) +1 on humor ;) You can add some extra by committing my patches for turbine-2.. )) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

Re: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...

2002-05-25 Thread Martin van den Bemt
The converse: You all can vote all day long on what I'm to do, but what are you going to do when my dissenting vote is cast by me not actually doing it? Voting has NOTHING to do with what work gets done. Thats the POWER of those who do. We are talking about this proposal am I right not

Re: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...

2002-05-25 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Being a committer (at least that's my idea), he doesn't only have the right to vote, but also the due to vote... This is one of the fundamental concepts of any good democratic country. Are we undermining that? Hmm.. democracy is also having the right not to vote. Just don't complain if

Re: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...

2002-05-25 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Maven provides that functionality ;)) see http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/maven/activity-log.html Mvgr, Martin On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 18:28, Pier Fumagalli wrote: James Taylor [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -- jt (who is afraid Pier will do a mailing list search on him and realize how little

Re: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...

2002-05-25 Thread Martin van den Bemt
its a meritocracy. Thanx to the Oxfort dictionary I know what it is.. But all democracies are actually meritocracies according to the dictionary, they select you to be able to vote when 18+. But this is getting way to Off-Topic I guess... ;)) Mvgr, Martin -- To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...

2002-05-25 Thread Martin van den Bemt
by using the footer I just seen on Nicola's mail : - verba volant, scripta manent - (discussions get forgotten, just code remains) Let's I made the choice to remain ;). Mvgr, Martin van den Bemt -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail

Re: FW: Howdy... just FYI, the bcel-dev archive mailing list linkis broken...

2002-05-25 Thread Martin van den Bemt
bcel-dev is just not on mail-archive.com.. It has to be subscribed, which I am trying to do currently ;)) Mvgr, Martin On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 19:58, Pier Fumagalli wrote: FYI, can someone with the right knowledge fix it? :) Pier -- [Perl] combines all the worst aspects of C and

Re: FW: Howdy... just FYI, the bcel-dev archive mailing list linkis broken...

2002-05-25 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Someone beat me to it ;) Mvgr, Martin On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 20:07, Martin van den Bemt wrote: bcel-dev is just not on mail-archive.com.. It has to be subscribed, which I am trying to do currently ;)) Mvgr, Martin On Sat, 2002-05-25 at 19:58, Pier Fumagalli wrote: FYI, can someone

Re: Must I resubscribe to all the list..

2002-05-29 Thread Martin van den Bemt
I am happy again.. I got my mails ;)) Mvgr, Martin On Wed, 2002-05-29 at 02:08, Martin van den Bemt wrote: (NOTE : just subsribed, hoping it will arrive on general this time.. probably other mails are waiting to be moderated, you can decline ;) Hi everyone, I already mailed to Pier

Re: [PROPOSAL] Committer access and responsibilities...

2002-05-30 Thread Martin van den Bemt
On Thu, 2002-05-30 at 01:49, Ted Husted wrote: If you accept a nomination to be a committer, and gain CVS access, then you can apply your own patches. Since most of use the products we patch, this is an important benefit to most contributors. If you happen to see a patch from another

Re: Source files in distribution ?

2002-06-09 Thread Martin van den Bemt
I think there was a big discussion on tomcat-dev about this a year ago. Someone suggested to remove the source, since it took extra download time and wasn't used anyway. The thread was pretty big as far as I remember.. I guess if the source is still distributes with the binary, it was -1 on that

Re: Scarab

2002-06-12 Thread Martin van den Bemt
I understood there wasn't any issue data in there anyway.. Mvgr, Martin On Thu, 2002-06-13 at 00:12, Jason van Zyl wrote: Hi, Does anyone have anything critical they want saved in the old Scarab installation on nagoya? I'm ready to install a new version of Scarab so that it's available

Re: Interesting quote....

2002-06-18 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Also +1 on this one. Competing isn't good, since your strategy is based on what another company does, and then you are doomed. Just define your own goals, and if that ends up in being competetion for Microsoft, it is not even your problem, but you just made something that is really good! Mvgr,

Re: [DRAFT1] Jakarta Newsletter - June 2002

2002-07-01 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Ceki - I lost the umlauts(?) in your surname because they were causing the xdoc-html transition to fall over... any ideas how to fix? or is it not a problem? Save the file as UTF-8 (use vi or another tool, since some editor will put a utf-8 identifier in the beginning of the file.. Mvgr,

Re: [OT] Open-Source Cola

2002-07-04 Thread Martin van den Bemt
It's GPL ;) So not apache compatible ;) Mvgr, Martin On Thu, 2002-07-04 at 11:19, Ellis Teer wrote: I thought the community might appreciate this, open source applied to other products, including the article itself. My apologies if it is too off topic.

Re: POI Logo legal matter

2002-07-12 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Suggestion : Write (ehh mail) the legal departments of sun and microsoft and ask if they would allow such a logo. If they agree (on paper preferably..), you can used the best logo.. (at least based on the current vote).. Mvgr, Martin On Fri, 2002-07-12 at 13:51, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: My

Re: Ant Shirts ?

2002-07-17 Thread Martin van den Bemt
I don't know how finances are arranged at apache, but it would be cool to have some kind is shopping facility, with nice apache goodies, to eg generate revenue for organizing apache related conferences or other promoting activities.. Anyone any thoughts ? Mvgr, Martin On Wed, 2002-07-17 at

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-17 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Is that site generated by maven ? ;)) Mvgr, Martin On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 00:23, Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 7/17/02 3:06 PM, Andrew C. Oliver [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You don't think Jon should be the mascot somehow? I am the mascot... every time I post the idiot.html link...someone

Re: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-17 Thread Martin van den Bemt
I don't think I want to imagine what the content may be..;)) Mvgr, Martin On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 02:14, Pier Fumagalli wrote: Paulo Gaspar [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And even better is there is a revenge: - Lots of pictures! Being Jon one of my closest friends since _a_lot_, he has

RE: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-18 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Teteringen, The Netherlands (ask the Turbine list how it is there ;) Mvgr, Martin On Thu, 2002-07-18 at 13:14, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I have a question. It seems that you all kinda know each other. Where is everyone located? Aaron -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL

RE: localhost:8080 vs localhost???

2002-07-19 Thread Martin van den Bemt
He is just the first dutch serial killer on the loose ;)) Mvgr, Martin On Fri, 2002-07-19 at 13:57, Stephane Bailliez wrote: -Original Message- From: Leo Simons [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] [...] the world. I have also taken the precaution of killing all my family and friends

[Fwd: Re: [eclipse-dev] Java compiler defaults changed]

2002-10-23 Thread Martin van den Bemt
FYI... Mvgr, Martin -Forwarded Message- From: Timothy Halloran [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: [eclipse-dev] Java compiler defaults changed Date: 23 Oct 2002 16:29:24 -0400 On the unused imports, heres some empirical data for I collected on Eclipse and some other

OptimizeIT license?

2002-10-18 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Hi everyone, I tried to get a (free) optimizeIT license from Borland, to use for some apache projects other open source projects. I tried to it with the European Sales Manager, but they didn't have a clue of what I meant with this and never heard back from them after a better explenation (they

Re: Linux Magazine article

2002-10-26 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Never skip a start of something is my motto ;) Mvgr, Martin On Sat, 2002-10-26 at 13:04, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: I'd rather perform their role from 1987-1999 or so ;-) -Andy Martin van den Bemt wrote: I never had you for an idealest. What I think they'll do is start trying to sell

Re: Short Apache licence for source files

2002-12-04 Thread Martin van den Bemt
On Wed, 2002-12-04 at 09:59, Ceki Gülcü wrote: At 07:54 04.12.2002 +0100, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote: Currently we should use the full version. There will be a short version of the next 2.0 license that will be equally protecting from a legal POV, but in the meantime use the full version.

Re: GUI of the website, where's an overview? (not simply found)

2002-12-19 Thread Martin van den Bemt
I really like Bambi :) Mvgr, Martin On Thu, 2002-12-19 at 14:34, Pier Fumagalli wrote: On 17/12/02 7:14 Steven Noels [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: I'm currently (slowly) working on this: http://cocoon.cocoondev.org/mount/trove/ - which should, amongst others, be dependant on Gump data.

Re: [OT] Goodbye all

2003-01-14 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Have a very good trip! Too bad your not sailing it though, else we definitely would have met underdway ;)) Mvgr, Martin On Tue, 2003-01-14 at 14:02, Stephane Bailliez wrote: Just a quick note to say goodbye to all readers and committers on ant-dev and general. -- To unsubscribe, e-mail:

Re: [PMC VOTE] PMC Nominations

2003-01-16 Thread Martin van den Bemt
+1 for all (although not binding). Also want ask you to also nominate Robert Burrel Donkin. He is current release manager for commons-beanutils and is preparing the betwixt (first) release now. Mvgr, Martin On Thu, 2003-01-16 at 22:59, Sam Ruby wrote: Reorging the Jakarta PMC apparently has

Re: Forum Software.

2003-01-23 Thread Martin van den Bemt
As far as I could follow when it was set up, people were more keen on the idea to get usefull threads up there (was on tomcat-dev afaik, but Pier should probably remember it better), so they wouldn't be lost in the somethimes enormous mails on the mailinglist and prevent most commons questions

Re: Forum Software.

2003-01-24 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Very well said! Mvgr, Martin On Fri, 2003-01-24 at 10:47, Kief Morris wrote: So, read the archive. The great thing about mailing lists is ithey're open - anyone who wants to can put whatever interface they like onto it - web, news, whatever. Don't like the search engine? What search engine

Re: No reply from root

2003-01-24 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Did a forward already to the infrasctructure, which triggered huge response ;). Wasn't smart enough to cc general on this. (thought the request was to commons-dev and couldn't find the mail anymore and therefor didn't check if my mind was working ok) Mvgr, Martin On Fri, 2003-01-24 at 19:08,

Re: Open ThunderGraph in Jakarta ?

2003-01-28 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Love to see a gui framework / tools thingy on apache.. Working on that stuff a lot lately (of course has a Apache Style License) Mvgr, Martin On Tue, 2003-01-28 at 16:32, Henri Gomez wrote: I have reservations: Let's go... 1) It's definitely a GUI focused project. Jakarta as a project

Re: Jakarta POI audit.

2003-02-06 Thread Martin van den Bemt
In summary, there are no controversial licensing issues for the Jakarta POI project itself. The only area of question is whether Centipede's use of LGPL libraries and POI's use of Centipede as a build tool constitutes a problem. We are eager to resolve this in the event the board sees

Re: Action items now or after board meeting?

2003-02-10 Thread Martin van den Bemt
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 13:46, Sam Ruby wrote: MySQL have indicated to me that they do intend to provide (or consider providing) specific less restrictive licences to certain groups, and that jakarta would likely be one, but I haven't heard any more, and until then the last release of

Re: Licensing again.

2003-02-10 Thread Martin van den Bemt
On Mon, 2003-02-10 at 16:19, Sam Ruby wrote: Define link. If you were subscribed to [EMAIL PROTECTED], you would have already seen the following: http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?[EMAIL PROTECTED]msgId=641442 http://nagoya.apache.org/eyebrowse/ReadMsg?[EMAIL

Re: [PMC VOTE] PMC Nominations

2003-02-15 Thread Martin van den Bemt
This is the vote in which you got nominated :) Mvgr, Martin +1 (i can't see the original VOTE but i don't suppose that matters) +1 - robert - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands,

Re: Free java profiler tools for open source projects?

2003-03-17 Thread Martin van den Bemt
I started the thread :) I contacted several people at borland and forwarded my request to Borland and the request back from Borland to the jakarta pmc (never had a reply from the pmc). If you are interested I can forward the reply I got from Borland to you.. Btw I am in the process of a retry

Re: Call on Stein to resign over Gernimo

2003-11-11 Thread Martin van den Bemt
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Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-19 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Andrew, The big difference between Geir and you, is that Geir is actually trying to give feedback and explain the situation on what's going on. The only messages I keep reading from you are protests against private lists and that they should be public and for the rest nothing at all

Re: Just in case you're curious

2003-12-21 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Sorry to hear you didn't understand my mail at all If that is the way a PMC member communicates, I can never be part of that PMC. Mvgr, Martin On Sun, 2003-12-21 at 23:10, Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Now the conversation is here, that is the solution. You're welcome. -Andy

Re: The Name Jakarta

2004-01-28 Thread Martin van den Bemt
That place is officially djakarta btw :) So I was never confused.. Mvgr, Martin On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 15:48, Brian McCallister wrote: Despite any rumors to the contrary, Jakarta being the capital of Indonesia on the island of Java had nothing to do with it either ;-) -Brian On Jan 27,

Re: Apache License 2.0 came into effect

2004-01-28 Thread Martin van den Bemt
The ASF is the copyright holder.. Btw just moved a codehaus project to use v 2.0 :) Mvgr, Martin On Wed, 2004-01-28 at 15:41, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: If all licenses must be updated by March 1st 2004, you'd better get us some using instructions really quickly, e.g. what goes in

Re: [Jakarta Wiki] New: WikiBrazil

2004-07-05 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Could someone check this ? I cannot read that too well :). To whomever is doing this: it is best to login, so we can see who did this.. And is this specific to Brazil ? Or is this also readable by all Portugese speakers ? Mvgr, Martin On Mon, 2004-07-05 at 14:05, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Updated: Motivacao

2004-07-05 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Understand you read/understand some Portugese ? Maybe translation spam bots have seen the light ? mvgr, Martin On Mon, 2004-07-05 at 18:37, Henri Yandell wrote: Doing an automatic translation on this page yields complete crap. Random gibberings of the insane (reminds me of the book I just

Re: Adding project version to bugzilla

2004-07-22 Thread Martin van den Bemt
It is in the first name I think, this Martin can do it too.. Mvgr, Martin On Thu, 2004-07-22 at 14:59, Henri Yandell wrote: Any idea who the people with access to do this are Martin? Within Jakarta anyway? Hen On Wed, 21 Jul 2004, Martin Cooper wrote: On Wed, 21 Jul 2004,

Re: Can I use Hibernate in an Apache project without compromising the Apache License?

2004-09-29 Thread Martin van den Bemt
On Wed, 2004-09-29 at 13:56, Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: On Tue, 2004-09-28 at 11:11, Brett Porter wrote: is not ASF License compliant? If yes, than I would really hate to have to point you at

Re: Can I use Hibernate in an Apache project without compromising the Apache License?

2004-09-29 Thread Martin van den Bemt
No - LGPL isn't viral unless you make derivative works of the LGPL-ed code itself. Just using an LGPL-ed codebase as a library does not trigger the virality. The problem is that for java, there are questions about the clarity of the provisions in the license that prevent the virality

Re: [OT] Which Linux distribution for Java development?

2005-01-08 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Esp jdk 1.3 was a PITA under linux. afaik sun finally fixed their bugs, so it should run a lot better.. Mvgr, Martin On Fri, 2005-01-07 at 10:13, Danny Angus wrote: One thing you *may* care about is using certified Java VM. You should also be aware that there are issues with combinations of

Re: [VOTE] Jakarta Http Components

2005-10-22 Thread Martin van den Bemt
+1.. Mvgr, Martin Henri Yandell wrote: So, period of comments now over, let's go ahead and vote on the creation of a Jakarta Subproject named Http Components with the following initial charter: http://wiki.apache.org/jakarta-httpclient/NewProjectCharter [ ] +1 [ ] -1 PMC votes are

Re: Notice of intent.... #2

2006-01-10 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Almost completely +1. One thing first : http://java.apache.org, redirects to archive.apache.org, while I still know people that are think java stuff stuff on apache.org is happening there, so maybe a redirect to a more friendly page could take place there ? (though this could be something for

Re: Jakarta stats

2006-01-12 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Noel J. Bergman wrote: Danny Angus wrote: I'm one of the 1) Inactive PMC members Define inactive. Inactive as a committer? Inactive as a PMC member providing oversight to Jakarta projects? I'm in the former category, as are many, but I still actively monitor several project lists, even

Re: Jakarta stats

2006-01-12 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Vadim Gritsenko wrote: Martin van den Bemt wrote: The result can be a couple of things (probably depending on the response) : - Leave it as is - Move them to emuritus Above two are the only acceptable choices for folks with valid accounts. We can discuss means and mechanisms of moving

Re: Jakarta stats

2006-01-14 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Hi Jeff, Jeff Dever wrote: I guess I consider myself to be a category 3: 3) People who are committer, did do some serious work and vanished. Hmm I miss the part about vanishing, you clearly are monitoring lists ? The situation is simply that I am unable to work on Jakarta any further.

Re: jakarta struts binary

2006-02-08 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Try it via http://struts.apache.org.. Mvgr, Martin John Armstrong wrote: I'm trying to learn java struts and an old Jakarta Struts book is telling me to go to jakarta.apache.org for the jakarta struts binary. When I go there there's no mention of such under downloads. There's just Struts

Re: [ANNOUNCEMENT] ApacheCon EU 2006

2006-02-25 Thread Martin van den Bemt
+1 :) The Dutch will get to the finals anyway and I don't want to miss out on that :) Mvgr, Martin Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: (Catching up with my mail. Holidays are a wonderful thing...) You are surely aware of the fact that this is right on top of the round of 16 and quarter-final games

Re: Representing project inactivity on the site

2006-03-06 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Just zap alexandria (we just zapped the mailinglist too). We can look at it as being promoted to TLP anyway (gump). ORO and Regexp ar kind of finished I thought, we should mark it stable or something like that. Don't know about ECS though. Mvgr, Martin Henri Yandell wrote: I really

Re: Submitting patches

2006-03-26 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Agreed and +1 to the changes.. sebb wrote: Generally I find that patches are much easier to process as Bugzilla attachments, rather than sent to the developer list as an attachment. And if the patch is large, it uses everyones mail resources, most of whom aren't interested. Just received such

Re: [VOTE] Remove SVN restrictions

2006-03-27 Thread Martin van den Bemt
+1 Mvgr, Martin Henri Yandell wrote: Vote to remove the SVN barriers within Jakarta such that all jakarta-* groups are merged into the one jakarta group with the exception of jakarta-hivemind, jakarta-slide, jakarta-cactus and jakarta-jmeter under the assumption that they are moving to

Re: [VOTE] Move Jakarta Cactus/JMeter to new Testing TLP

2006-04-20 Thread Martin van den Bemt
The options are: [X] +1 I am favorable to the move and would like to contribute to the new TLP [ ] +1 I am favorable to the move but would not be participating in the new TLP [ ] +0 it does not matter to me [ ] -1 I am against it because Same motivation as Yoav and Rahul.. Mvgr,

JIRA admin

2006-06-29 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Hi, Does anyone know the names of people doing jakarta JIRA admin ? First goal is to get added to all jakarta projects ([EMAIL PROTECTED]), second goal is to add this information to the wiki.. Mvgr, Martin - To unsubscribe,

Re: JIRA admin

2006-06-29 Thread Martin van den Bemt
It's a start, but that list just specifies the owner (who is admin).. Rather have a couple of names that can handle all jakarta projects.. Mvgr, Martin Ortwin Glück wrote: Martin van den Bemt wrote: Hi, Does anyone know the names of people doing jakarta JIRA admin ? Are you looking

Re: JIRA admin

2006-06-30 Thread Martin van den Bemt
people to the group without being a global jira admin; need to request that feature of atlassian as it seems desirable. I've added you to jakarta-admin and jakarta-dev. Should I add to jira-admin? Hen On Thu, 29 Jun 2006, Martin van den Bemt wrote: Hi, Does anyone know the names of people

Re: State of Slide project

2006-07-29 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: Hm, We should make the effort to distinguish between stable projects/code and dormant/dead code. Totally agree.. Though we have to figure out if slide is dormant or mature. I cannot judge if it is one or the other. Based on the stuff I read on it (eg

Re: State of Slide project

2006-07-29 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Henri Yandell wrote: How about creating a Dormant section on the LHS under Subprojects and kicking off a vote to put ORO, Regexp, Slide, Alexandria (I know, it's dead but simpler to put under Dormant for the moment), and ECS into it? We should just zap alexandria, or say just like other

Re: site change checked in, can't do svn up

2006-08-04 Thread Martin van den Bemt
You have to do that on people.apache.org in the /www/jakarta.apache.org/site directory... I done the update for you already :) Mvgr, Martin Danny Angus wrote: Hi, I've removed the refrence to the patepstry lists from http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mail2.html But i can't log in to www from

Re: Help Required

2006-08-04 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Hi Santosh, The main reason we forward people to the correct list (in this case jmeter-user), since the people that are subscribed to jmeter-user are more likely to be able to answer your question correctly, than people on general (who aren't necessarily people how are actively involved in

Re: Opening up the PMC

2006-08-09 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Just catching up on mail (and pretty tired, so forgive me if not everything is clear / using words not in an English dictionary. ) Henri Yandell wrote: What do people think to the following: 1) Every existing committer not on the pmc receives an email asking if they would like to join the

Re: Opening up the PMC

2006-08-11 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Torsten Curdt wrote: But if you argue into that direction -no matter how often this has been discussed already- I would rather question the idea of an umbrella PMC then... (*ducks*) Time and energy to express the ideas you have in that direction ? Mvgr, Martin

License headers not all at version 2.0..

2006-08-13 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Hi everyone, Just did a quick scan on some projects and it seems not all license headers were changed to version 2.0. So I ask all projects to have a look at this. Just a couple of projects that I scanned : - Bcel : clean - bsf : not clean - cactus : not clean (some xsl file) - ecs : clean -

Re: [intent] Retiring Alexandria

2006-08-17 Thread Martin van den Bemt
+1.. Although completely zapping Alexendria references, is also fine by me :) Mvgr, Martin Henri Yandell wrote: I think that the Incubator has the right concept/label in retiring projects, so I plan to create a link on the right hand side of the Jakarta site called Retired Projects and to

Jakarta BOF @ apachecon USA

2006-08-21 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Hi fellow Jakartians, I welcome everyone going to Apachecon to the Jakarta BOF (which I just registered in the Wiki, assuming that is sufficient to have the BOF take place). I just put it at a certain date and time, though details are not known yet. The main reason for the BOF is to discuss

Re: Jakarta BOF @ apachecon USA

2006-08-24 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Cool :) Let's do this at dinner, since there are only 2 of us ;) Mvgr, Martin Torsten Curdt wrote: +1 cool bananas ..will be there cheers -- Torsten On 8/22/06, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi fellow Jakartians, I welcome everyone going to Apachecon to the Jakarta BOF

Re: problems with JIRA

2006-09-07 Thread Martin van den Bemt
I tried downloading all attachments and I have no problems.. Not saying this is a solution, but it could be : logout, relogin or remove jira cookies (just guessing here :) Mvgr, Martin Will Glass-Husain wrote: Anyone having problems with JIRA? We have an issue (VELOCITY-453) that half of

Re: Tracking Jakarta Software Dependencies

2006-09-13 Thread Martin van den Bemt
You have scope and optional as dependency parameters. The combination of the 2 can provide what you are thinking about. Although not sure the dependency report will make a separate list out of them. (but this is better for discussing on the maven user list I guess) Mvgr, Martin Henning

Re: Tracking Jakarta Software Dependencies

2006-09-13 Thread Martin van den Bemt
That policy is just for you ;) Mvgr, Martin Henning Schmiedehausen wrote: I do object to the everyone must build with maven 2 policy. :-) Best regards Henning - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For

Re: [VOTE] Move Velocity to TLP

2006-09-15 Thread Martin van den Bemt
+1.. Mvgr, Martin Nathan Bubna wrote: The Velocity project has for some time now been making plans for a proposal to the board that the Velocity projects leave the Jakarta umbrella and become their own top level project. Martin has asked us to hold a vote on the proposal here before he passes

Re: jakarta.apache.org down?

2006-09-18 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Hmm preferred the dutch version :) Mvgr, Martin Henri Yandell wrote: The ISP appear to be having problems. Joe's on it and will be moving to the backups (minotaur) if they don't have things fixed soon enough (few hours). Babelfish translation of the surfnet.nl info: quasi: There is at

[VOTE] Remove POI svn restrictions.

2006-12-15 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Hi everyone, You probably think Hey I have seen a similar vote started by Henri on 27-3-2006 and the outcome was 3 -1 from POI so their SVN is still closed for Jakarta committers. The reasoning behind this is that POI is still trying to stick to what it Jakarta once was and it is time they

Re: [VOTE] Remove POI svn restrictions.

2006-12-15 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Which legal team ? Apache legal doesn't know anything about this.. Mvgr, Martin Nick Burch wrote: On Fri, 15 Dec 2006, Martin van den Bemt wrote: The reasoning behind this is that POI is still trying to stick to what it Jakarta once was and it is time they join the club completely. I think

Re: [VOTE] Remove POI svn restrictions.

2006-12-15 Thread Martin van den Bemt
ehh +1 :) Mvgr, Martin Martin van den Bemt wrote: Hi everyone, You probably think Hey I have seen a similar vote started by Henri on 27-3-2006 and the outcome was 3 -1 from POI so their SVN is still closed for Jakarta committers. The reasoning behind this is that POI is still trying

Re: [VOTE] Remove POI svn restrictions.

2006-12-16 Thread Martin van den Bemt
-1 from me. Harmony doesn't let anyone commit on their project unless they they sign a statement saying they haven't looked at Sun's source code[1]. AFAIK this is a similar issue and the POI policy [2] is designed to protect POI, which as a user of POI is a good thing IMO. Even if this

Re: [VOTE] Remove POI svn restrictions.

2006-12-16 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Every legal document has to be on file and known to the secretary and he has no knowledge of such documents, so from an ASF point of view, this is non existing. If there is something on file I would love to hear where. Mvgr, Martin Roland Weber wrote: Henri Yandell wrote: Reasoning being

Re: [VOTE] Remove POI svn restrictions.

2006-12-16 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Will Glass-Husain wrote: Andy-- No one was going to railroad this through without input from POI. See my previous email where I insisted that we have POI participation. (and I would have -1'd this automatically if it had been lacking). The discussion was civil up until recently. I am

Re: [VOTE] Remove POI svn restrictions.

2006-12-16 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Andrew C. Oliver wrote: Hey I have an idea! If it doesn't pass this time we can call another vote right before the next holiday and hope that none of the POI PMC members are around... Then 3 months later do it again. This is a different vote. This one is specific about POI. The previous

Re: [VOTE] Remove POI svn restrictions.

2006-12-17 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Niall Pemberton wrote: On 12/16/06, Martin van den Bemt [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: -1 from me. Harmony doesn't let anyone commit on their project unless they they sign a statement saying they haven't looked at Sun's source code[1]. AFAIK this is a similar issue and the POI policy [2

Re: [VOTE] Remove POI svn restrictions.

2006-12-17 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Niall Pemberton wrote: On 12/17/06, Roland Weber [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hello Niall, Why is it any different than Harmony? Harmony requires that an Authorized Contributor Questionnaire be signed. The ACQ surely has been reviewd by the ASF legal team, and signatures are legally

Re: [VOTE] Remove POI svn restrictions.

2006-12-17 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Hi Avik, Avik Sengupta wrote: Wow! The one weekend I decide not to check mail!! :) I know what you mean :) Am replying to the original message for convenience, but have read the thread till this point. Basically, the amount of negativity towards POI project in the thread seems seems

Board Report December

2006-12-17 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Jakarta Board Report First of all I like to mention that I haven't be able to spent the time I wanted to spend, which is something I will try to improve. I like to request special attention is given to the POI subproject section in the report. Another improvement should be that the majority of

Re: Board Report December

2006-12-17 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Replying to myself :) People I am doing something wrong. The board report should be created by the committers, with a personal note added from the Vice President (or in slang Chair). As you all can see, I am the only one who wrote it, which is 1) time consuming 2) icomplete (just have a look a

Re: Board Report December

2006-12-17 Thread Martin van den Bemt
something was up there, but didn't have a look yet :) Mvgr, Martin Dennis Lundberg wrote: Martin van den Bemt wrote: Replying to myself :) People I am doing something wrong. The board report should be created by the committers, with a personal note added from the Vice President (or in slang Chair

Re: [VOTE] Remove POI svn restrictions.

2006-12-17 Thread Martin van den Bemt
made a proposal to promote POI now, I would expect the board to reject it and tell us make POI work in Jakarta before you promote it to TLP. That is was my feeling as well, but I understood from the board that they rather prefer that things are not hidden in subprojects, which is something

Board reports.

2006-12-17 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Hi everyone, The official way board reports should be handled has 2 parts : 1 part that is edited by the the committers (= the people who know best about there projects) and after that the VP can add his personal notes to the report. So starting from now I would like to see that people add the

Re: [Jakarta Wiki] Trivial Update of JakartaBoardReport-March2007 by RolandWeber

2006-12-17 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Feel free to remove it from commons and add it to HttpComponents. It was just a dumb copy paste from the commons webpage :) While you are at it, you could also add this to the template (+ httpcode and httpasync) Mvgr, Martin Apache Wiki wrote: Dear Wiki user, You have subscribed to a wiki

Re: Board Report December

2006-12-18 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Just a reminder : the board report was written by me (completely) and the feeling is something I have and doesn't necessarily mean the whole of Jakarta agrees with that. The board is aware that it is my personal report. Don't forget that in the first place this feeling (/ observation of this

Re: [VOTE] Remove POI svn restrictions.

2006-12-18 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Tetsuya Kitahata wrote: [+1] Open up POI svn commit access. [-1] Don't open POI svn commit access, because... As long as the ASF (entity)/ Jakarta PMC have an WILL to protect and can protect the developers from the Legal Issues, I am willing to put +1 to this vote. The biggest problem is

Re: [VOTE] Remove POI svn restrictions.

2006-12-18 Thread Martin van den Bemt
Martin van den Bemt wrote: -1 from me. Harmony doesn't let anyone commit on their project unless they they sign a statement saying they haven't looked at Sun's source code[1]. AFAIK this is a similar issue and the POI policy [2] is designed to protect POI, which as a user of POI is a good

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