Re: What is Struts? (was: Re: What is Avalon?)

2001-02-02 Thread Ted Husted
On 2/3/2001 at 8:13 AM Peter Donald wrote: We can't force projects - especially new ones - to reuse existing codebases but overtime we should encourage it. Thanks for saying this better than I did, Peter. +1. I'd like to be a good Apache scientist some day, but sometimes it's hard to

What is Jakarta?

2001-02-06 Thread Ted Husted
pointment of the PMC chairperson be restricted to candidates proposed by the project I'm about to make another pass at the proposed guidelines, and want to be sure we are in compliance with any recent resolutions. I've read the ASF board minutes, but haven't found the "member" minutes.

RE: What is Jakarta?

2001-02-06 Thread Ted Husted
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Re: [NOISE] Yaaaaaaaaawwwwnnnnnnnnnnn....

2001-02-06 Thread Ted Husted
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Re: What is Jakarta?

2001-02-07 Thread Ted Husted
ols. If so, the proposal could then put this together and outline what might be in the first release of the product, and who would be doing the work. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services. -- Tel 716 425-0252; Fax 716 223-2506. -- http://www.husted.com/ab

Re: Frameset Documentation

2001-02-07 Thread Ted Husted
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Re: FW: Suppose our department wants to contribute to Apache projects... ?

2001-02-15 Thread Ted Husted
be quite a contribution right there. Off-hand, I might suggest that you focus on working with the Jetspeed team first, and think of your setup as building on what that product has already started. The essence of open-source is finding a shoulder to stand on ;0) -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairp

Re: [POLL] Re: Code Sharing Concepts

2001-02-15 Thread Ted Husted
"Craig R. McClanahan" wrote: I haven't voted yet in this thread because I haven't seen anyone else say "let's figure out the process issues first." I guess it's not as interesting as writing code :-), but it is very much as important to a shared resource like this. My thinking on the next

Re: [POLL] Re: Code Sharing Concepts

2001-02-15 Thread Ted Husted
David Weinrich wrote: Ok, sorry I was a bit late on the draw here Glad to have you aboard, David, especially since as near as I can figure, you're the one that started this thread! http://www.mail-archive.com/general@jakarta.apache.org/msg00018.html (This time, at least ;-) -Ted.

Re: [POLL] Re: Code Sharing Concepts

2001-02-15 Thread Ted Husted
led, being the group of people who have agreed to committ to the proposed codebases. Costin [EMAIL PROTECTED] Rodney Waldhoff [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ignacio J. Ortega [EMAIL PROTECTED] Bhamidi Krishna [EMAIL PROTECTED] Geir Magnusson Jr. [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] Federic

Re: [POLL] Re: Code Sharing Concepts

2001-02-15 Thread Ted Husted
"Geir Magnusson Jr." wrote: You might think then that each partition could manage it's own issues, like the projects do. So given http://www.mail-archive.com/general@jakarta.apache.org/msg00154.html are we on the same page, Geir? Basically, I just want to nest everything we do for

Re: [POLL] Re: Code Sharing Concepts

2001-02-16 Thread Ted Husted
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Seriously speaking - I am very concerned with the content of the library - I have a feeling that some people would like one book for each subject. I think that would be a very big step backwards. My hope is that the "library" project will be organized in a way that

Re: [POLL] Re: Code Sharing Concepts

2001-02-16 Thread Ted Husted
Sam Ruby wrote: the name of the mailing list should match the name of the subproject. I'm willing to create the mailing list in anticipation of the project being created, but it like to be sure that the name is what everybody wants. The name is one of the things we would discuss on the

Re: [POLL] Re: Code Sharing Concepts

2001-02-16 Thread Ted Husted
"Geir Magnusson Jr." wrote: Jakarta is rich in general-use tools. We just need to get them out into the light of day, documented, and supported directly, not incidentally as part of larger projects. I believe you and I are on the same page, Geir. Costin wants to go a different way with this.

Re: Action regarding umbrella PMCs [long]

2001-03-06 Thread Ted Husted
Jakarta guidelines at http://jakarta.apache.org/site/proposal.html -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services. -- Tel 716 737-3463. -- http://www.husted.com/about/struts/ - To uns

Re: [PROPOSAL] The Commons

2001-03-06 Thread Ted Husted
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Re: PMC meeting agenda

2001-03-12 Thread Ted Husted
thing like Apache Week's "Under Development" section that we could post each month to the Announcement list. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services. -- Tel 716 737-3463. -- http://www.hust

Re: status?

2001-03-13 Thread Ted Husted
Ceki Glc wrote: Does this mean that equals rights for women should be abolished because there are just too few men to promote it? In a volunteer meritocracy, equal rights would not exist if someone did not implement it. Under the Apache model, they would announce they are working on some equal

Re: PMC meeting agenda

2001-03-13 Thread Ted Husted
software products, why do we need it for the items on this agenda? It's been my experience that a recurring deadline for a status report can serve the same purpose of a synchronous meeting, without the constraint of real-time scheduling. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom

Re: PMC meeting agenda

2001-03-13 Thread Ted Husted
Sam Ruby wrote: That's why the agenda should be posted early, and as much discussion as possible take place prior to the agenda. OK. Sam Ruby wrote: 3.2 Sam: formalization of the subproject hierarcy. When we say hierarchy, do we mean something nested, or just a flat grouping?

Re: Contibuting to the Jakarta Project

2001-03-14 Thread Ted Husted
suggestions, let me know, and I'll get started on some XML editor links. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services. -- Tel 716 737-3463. -- http://www.husted.com/about/struts

Re: Jakarta-taglibs taglib releases

2001-03-21 Thread Ted Husted
ular email edition to distribute by Jakarta-Announce. We could also forward Jakarta-Announce to editorial lists, as Eduardo suggests. If everyone doesn't want to apply for write status to Site2, I'll volunteer to accept items to post there. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custo

Re: New Subprojects

2001-03-23 Thread Ted Husted
section of the Charter should definitely be refactored. Right now they are a hodge-podge of requirements, best practices, and actual voting guidelines. But we wanted to move things along. I am aware of at least three serious Commons proposals now in the works; check-ins are imminent. -- Ted Husted, H

Re: New Subprojects

2001-03-23 Thread Ted Husted
is to open a project or two on SourceForge, and keep us posted as to your progress. The people who were interested here can join you there, and when you're ready, you can propose it to Jakarta, if that's what you still want. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software

Re: [PROPOSAL] J2EEUnit donation to ASF

2001-03-27 Thread Ted Husted
-1 on the name. Agreed. We'll find another name. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services. -- Tel 716 737-3463. -- http://www.husted.com/about/struts/ - To unsubscribe, e-mail

Re: [PROPOSAL] J2EEUnit donation to ASF

2001-03-27 Thread Ted Husted
at http://www.mail-archive.com/jakarta-commons%40jakarta.apache.org/msg00138.html Nice catch on the name. I'm sure we can work that out. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services. -- Tel 716 737-3463. -- http://www.husted.com/about/struts

Re: [PROPOSAL] J2EEUnit donation to ASF

2001-03-28 Thread Ted Husted
Kief, The JUnit folks are aware of the codebase, and link to the SourceForge version from their Web page. J2EEUnit extends the junit.framework package, and has no other dependancies outside java and javax. This package is being proposed to the Commons, and the thread wandered over here

Re: Lucene acceptance in Jakarta

2001-06-08 Thread Ted Husted
the rest of the people to cast a vote? thanks, -jon +1 Daniel F. Savarese [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jason van Zyl [EMAIL PROTECTED] Ceki Gülcü [EMAIL PROTECTED] Peter Donald [EMAIL PROTECTED] Jon S. Stevens [EMAIL PROTECTED] No vote: Pierpaolo Fumagalli Ted Husted Geir Magnusson Jr. Craig

Re: Proposal to make BSF an ASF project

2001-06-22 Thread Ted Husted
+1 for BSF as a Jakarta project. Bill Stoddard wrote: BSF is IBM's Bean Scripting Framework. Find a description here: http://oss.software.ibm.com/developerworks/projects/bsf Jakarta already hosts some BSF related stuff here: http://jakarta.apache.org/taglibs/doc/bsf-doc/intro.html To

Re: Project idea (Hypersonic)

2001-07-26 Thread Ted Husted
, then maybe we should talk about it. But, like Pier said, going out and finding a DBMS for the sake of having a DBMS is borg. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services. -- Tel 716 737-3463. -- http://www.husted.com/about/struts

Re: Scope

2001-07-29 Thread Ted Husted
I would say that the only the scope that matters is whether the product will be supported by an Apache meritocracy. Everything else is a decision we, or the Board, can make by fiat. The real problem with Hypersonic was that the team didn't seem interested in meritocratic development. I don't

Re: Summary (was Re: Scope)

2001-07-29 Thread Ted Husted
The spirit of Jakarta was more evident in the contstituion back on java.apache.org: Unlike other open source projects where an individual rules the project as a benevolent dictator, the Java Apache Project form is government is based on merit: everyone who deserves it get the right to vote and

Re: Lucene Acceptance

2001-08-21 Thread Ted Husted
Great! How do you want to do this? Start with the Web site and mailing list and end with the CVS, or the other way around, or start at both ends and work towards the middle ;-) http://www.geocrawler.com/archives/3/2626/2001/6/100/5924381/ Jason van Zyl wrote: On 8/12/01 4:57 PM, Ted Husted

Re: FW: [Lucene-dev] FW: Lucene Acceptance

2001-09-10 Thread Ted Husted
... -jon -- Forwarded Message From: Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] Organization: Apache Software Foundation / Jakarta Reply-To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2001 16:57:08 -0400 To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] Subject: Re: Lucene Acceptance Jon Stevens wrote: If you would like

Re: [Lucene-dev] FW: Lucene Acceptance

2001-09-10 Thread Ted Husted
OK. I'll get started on the Web site infrastructure in the morning, so we will have a place to stand ;-) Jason van Zyl wrote: On 9/10/01 5:58 PM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: After being blind-sided by some other things, I'm actually ready to begin. Jason mentioned that he

Re: [Lucene-dev] FW: Lucene Acceptance

2001-09-11 Thread Ted Husted
times. But if the rest of us don't carry on, then the terrorists win. That we cannot have.) -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services. -- Tel +1 716 737-3463 -- http://www.husted.com/about/struts

Re: [Lucene-dev] FW: Lucene Acceptance

2001-09-11 Thread Ted Husted
not a Velocity guru, but reckon you can help with that if I get stuck ;-) -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services. -- Tel +1 716 737-3463 -- http://www.husted.com/about/struts

Re: [VOTE] Making Commons-Cactus a top level projet

2001-09-14 Thread Ted Husted
might also want to add a Who We Are page to the Cactus site listing the Committers and other developers working on the product. -Ted. Pier Fumagalli wrote: Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The votes have been flowing in on General, so you don't need to repost. It needs 8 votes to pass

Re: [VOTE] Making Commons-Cactus a top level projet

2001-09-14 Thread Ted Husted
committers for Cactus, right ?). Only to help get you started over here. I never actually had to ~do~ anything ;-) -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services. -- Tel +1 716 737-3463 -- http://www.husted.com/about/struts

Re: [Vote] BCEL @ Jakarta

2001-10-23 Thread Ted Husted
Nice proposal! +1 -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services. -- Tel +1 716 737-3463 -- http://www.husted.com/struts/ Jason van Zyl wrote: Hi, I now have a proposal for BCEL which can be found here: http://www.apache.org/~jvanzyl/jakarta

Re: FAQ links...

2001-11-01 Thread Ted Husted
I can carve it out in the morning. I also have a patch to the front page, to list all the projects. Just planning to take the list from bugzilla. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services. -- Tel +1 716 737-3463 -- http://www.husted.com/struts

Re: BCEL @ Jakarta

2001-10-08 Thread Ted Husted
There wasn't one for Lucene, but I'd like to get back on track. My proposal for the Commons is here: http://www.mail-archive.com/general@jakarta.apache.org/msg00626.html Jason van Zyl wrote: On 10/8/01 3:24 PM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jason, could we have a proposal here

Re: Comment for Apache.org

2001-12-10 Thread Ted Husted
It is admittedly not a perfect universe, but I think the Jakarta Universe would be poorer without Jon Stevens in our midst. Some things are a package deal, and Jon seems to be one of them. I sometimes wonder if he is not employing reverse psychology on the rest of it. For example, it was Jon's

Re: Comment for Apache.org

2001-12-10 Thread Ted Husted
/whoweare.html http://jakarta.apache.org/site/roles.html http://jakarta.apache.org/site/guidelines.html -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services. -- Tel +1 716 737-3463 -- http://www.husted.com/struts/ Frans Thamura wrote: Dear All,, Do you know

Re: Comment for Apache.org

2001-12-12 Thread Ted Husted
. The corollary is, the less you do, the more someone else will do instead. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services. -- Tel +1 716 737-3463 -- http://www.husted.com/struts/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail

Re: Comment for Apache.org

2001-12-12 Thread Ted Husted
://www.collab.net/ -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software ~ Technical Services. -- Tel +1 716 737-3463 -- http://www.husted.com/struts/ Frans Thamura wrote: Hi everyone, Thanks for the email, and also Jon.. ;).. I just want and try to integrate the PMC model

Re: [PATCH] info on unsubscribing

2001-12-13 Thread Ted Husted
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Re: Standard Change Log and ToDo

2001-12-14 Thread Ted Husted
We have a rudimentary XML format for a TODO list at Struts, but it needs work. Here's a sample task name=Action info pUnit tests for the codeorg.apache.struts.action/code package./p /info assigned a href=mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED];Rob Leland/a /assigned

Re: Standard Change Log and ToDo

2001-12-14 Thread Ted Husted
On a similar note, has anyone started a format for a XML Status file, like the one described here: http://jakarta.apache.org/site/source.html Ted Husted wrote: We have a rudimentary XML format for a TODO list at Struts, but it needs work. Here's a sample task name=Action info

Re: Moderator?

2001-12-14 Thread Ted Husted
I'll do it. Sam Ruby wrote: Peter Donald wrote: I just realized that a few of my posts to the pmc list and the general list have not got approved by the moderator yet (had a change of email addie). So I guess I wam wondering who the moderator is and when they are likely to come back

Re: organizational culture in virtual organizations -qualitative research at university of vienna

2001-12-29 Thread Ted Husted
-- in accordance with our tenets. I believe the General list is a place where we can talk about ourselves. If anything, discouraging open communication about who we are and what we do would be inconsistent with our tenets. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Custom Software

Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Ted Husted
inter-dependancies. Would we want to suggest that as a standard practice? This could save a lot of effort and bandwidth, since now you often have to download a 3mb archive when all you want is a 150k JAR. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web applications with Struts

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Ted Husted
the JARs On 1/1/02 10:39 AM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Does anyone have a page regarding how to make a Jakarta release? I'd like to put one together and post it with the other guideline materials. I tried to make a dist target for helping with a release. The target makes

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Ted Husted
would all have JARs out where an automated process can get at them. (Or where they can at least be quickly downloaded the old-fasioned way.) -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web applications with Struts. -- Tel +1 585 737-3463. -- Web http://www.husted.com/struts

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Ted Husted
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Putting aside *all* the stuff we are talking about for a moement, and looking at the simple notion of just having release jars available w/o docs, source, etc I don't think this is a bad idea :) However Any license issues? Wouldn't we want to package the

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-01 Thread Ted Husted
AFAIK, all the Jakarta sub-projects try to ensure (but cannot guarantee) that the nightly builds remain usuable. The idea being you build and test it on your own machine before committing it to the CVS. Of course, since we are human and our tests are imperfect, the nigthly builds sometimes break.

Re: Just the JARs

2002-01-02 Thread Ted Husted
Craig R. McClanahan wrote: How about including a copy of the LICENSE file in the META-INF subdirectory of each JAR file produced by an Apache project? +1 -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web applications with Struts. -- Tel +1 585 737-3463. -- Web http

Re: Code conventions

2002-01-02 Thread Ted Husted
a clear opportunity to move the thread to the public list, and continue the discussion there, or let the matter drop. Peter, I hope you and yours are well. The Australian Black Christmas is all over the morning news here. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web

Re: cvs commit: jakarta-alexandria/proposal/gump/site/xdocsant.xml

2002-01-02 Thread Ted Husted
Atta boy, Jon! (This may be your politest, most professional message yet ;-) Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 1/2/02 6:34 AM, [EMAIL PROTECTED] [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: +if (runtime != null) +depend.setAttribute(runtime, runtime.getValue()); All Java Language

Re: cvs commit: jakarta-alexandria/proposal/gump/site/xdocsant.xml

2002-01-02 Thread Ted Husted
during builds to spit out code standard non-compliance warnings: http://checkstyle.sourceforge.net -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web applications with Struts. -- Tel +1 585 737-3463. -- Web http://www.husted.com/struts/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL

Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage

2002-01-03 Thread Ted Husted
What I've been meaning to do is set this up using the descriptions from Bugzilla, but never seem to get round to it. http://nagoya.apache.org/bugzilla/enter_bug.cgi Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On 1/3/02 9:02 AM, Gerhard Froehlich [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: hi, following idea for the

Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage

2002-01-03 Thread Ted Husted
-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web applications with Struts. -- Tel +1 585 737-3463. -- Web http://www.husted.com

Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage

2002-01-03 Thread Ted Husted
Gerhard Froehlich wrote: PS: Can somebody explain me, why the my mails are send twice to this list since today? I've nobody in CC! The same thing is happening to me. I've been thinking my mail filters had gone hay-write. We're apparently getting two copies of our own mails back. -- Ted

Re: More abuse of coding styles...

2002-01-04 Thread Ted Husted
As a point of order: The use of this is recommended by the Elements of Java Style, which is cited in the Commons charter. Though, I have myself been victimized by the trap Ceki mentions. -Ted. Ceki Gülcü wrote: People who repeatedly forget to type this represent a minority and should

Re: Code conventions

2002-01-04 Thread Ted Husted
to use the conventions expected within each codebase. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web applications with Struts. -- Tel +1 585 737-3463. -- Web http://www.husted.com/struts/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail

Re: Code conventions

2002-01-04 Thread Ted Husted
are unaware, and we haven't been watching each other's back. In the meantime, I do suggest we go with rule #1 - Adhere to the style of the original. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web applications with Struts. -- Tel +1 585 737-3463. -- Web http://www.husted.com

Re: Jakarta Status [was Code conventions]

2002-01-04 Thread Ted Husted
meritocratic development, regardless of what it has any ties to the Apache HTTPD. This coincides nicely with the other ASF projects, which are also based around given languages, like PHP. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web applications with Struts. -- Tel +1 585 737-3463

Re: Jakarta Status [was Code conventions]

2002-01-04 Thread Ted Husted
-pollination between projects. Likewise with having things like POI in XML land, that Jartian products might use. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web applications with Struts. -- Tel +1 585 737-3463. -- Web http://www.husted.com/struts/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail

Re: [Request For Comment] POI @ apache

2002-01-04 Thread Ted Husted
Sam Ruby wrote: 1) Perhaps we need to use the bug tracking system for PMC issues. That would be a welcome improvement. Anybody care to take this one? Makes sense to me -- Can we list it as PMC/Site2 ? Do I have karma to add this to bugzilla myself? -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com

Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage

2002-01-04 Thread Ted Husted
Gerhard Froehlich wrote: Nope. No karma for the Jakarta Site, only for the Avalon project. Your turn ;-). I did post an update this morning, but there apparently a problem with anoncvs that's preventing me from copying the changes over to the main site. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com

Re: On unity and coherence [was Re: [Request For Comment] POI @apache]

2002-01-05 Thread Ted Husted
and allows fast and safe changes in the core group since who decides is always who is more involved and cares the most. I believe that everything else here, the projects, the subprojects, are just a means to serve the end of development by meritocracy. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY

Re: Cultural homogeneity

2002-01-06 Thread Ted Husted
I agree except that I think the cities here are the subprojects, like Velocity and Struts, and the projects, like Jakarta and XML, are just arbitrary containers (lines on a map). Subprojects are like cities, Projects are like states (or provinces), and ASF is the nation. I don't think an

Re: Cultural homogeneity

2002-01-06 Thread Ted Husted
to know how XML feels about it. Alternatively, perhaps we might consider something like a public apache-projects list, where all the PMCs would meet and discuss issues like this, and conduct the formal votes, and let the general lists revert back to a chat room. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com

Re: Cultural homogeneity

2002-01-06 Thread Ted Husted
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On 1/6/02 8:06 AM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: I thought I would share, as my thinking about removing community containers here in Jakarta, XML et al resonates well this. Personally, I just think its mainly a matter

Re: Cultural homogeneity

2002-01-06 Thread Ted Husted
Ooops, should have been I believe that the subcultures exist mainly at the subproject level. The PROJECTS, like many states and provinces are, simply granfalloons. http://www.kcoyle.net/granfalloons.html -T. Ted Husted wrote: Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On 1/6/02 8:06 AM

Re: Cultural homogeneity

2002-01-06 Thread Ted Husted
Ted Husted wrote: (1) That we petition the ASF to change our charter and remove the word server, so what we are simply charged with providing production quality solutions on the Java platform. [I'd link to our charter, but can't find the ASF minutes any more, and don't know where else

Re: Cultural homogeneity

2002-01-06 Thread Ted Husted
emails. The other thing that went around last year implied that we could fragment Jakarta or change its scope. We then trebled the size of the PMC, but apparently skirted the scope issue. When the documentation and code disagree, both are usually wrong. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY

Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage

2002-01-06 Thread Ted Husted
. This is the other thing people visiting the site are forever asking the webmaster to do. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web applications with Struts. -- Tel +1 585 737-3463. -- Web http://www.husted.com/struts/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL

Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage

2002-01-06 Thread Ted Husted
Lazy consensus. If anyone doesn't like it, they can change it :) Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Cool. I am assuming that you will ask each project where they belong? :) -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web applications with Struts. -- Tel +1 585 737-3463. -- Web

Brief History of Jakarta and the ASF

2002-01-06 Thread Ted Husted
. 2) colluding offline and then voting as a block will invite in a backlash http://jakarta.apache.org/site/pmc/ -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web applications with Struts. -- Tel +1 585 737-3463. -- Web http://www.husted.com/struts/ -- To unsubscribe, e-mail

Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage

2002-01-06 Thread Ted Husted
Sam Ruby wrote: My two cents: these categories are not perfect, but are useful. Not unlike the Apache Projects =:) -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web applications with Struts. -- Tel +1 585 737-3463. -- Web http://www.husted.com/struts/ -- To unsubscribe, e

Re: Jboss Start up

2002-01-06 Thread Ted Husted
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Re: Questions

2002-01-07 Thread Ted Husted
Don't you think pushing Sam out in front of bus would be a little bit extreme Jon? :) What would happen if who ever said they would step up here was crossing the street with him? It's not like everything would grind to a halt. I'd be a little more worried about what would happen if Brian

Re: crushed

2002-01-07 Thread Ted Husted
+1 Andrew C. Oliver wrote: I mean lets go ahead with the proposal (final draft in the making) -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]

Re: crushed

2002-01-07 Thread Ted Husted
way to run projects. I don't suppose there is any potential for tigris.org becoming an ASF Project. Which is to say, could we create a Tigris-like ASF Project, with Jon at the helm? -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web applications with Struts. -- Tel +1 585 737

Re: Volunteer Wanted

2002-01-08 Thread Ted Husted
name there instead so that he can start contributing more than just being a pain in my ass. Is that cool? -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web

Re: Volunteer Wanted

2002-01-08 Thread Ted Husted
to put his name there instead so that he can start contributing more than just being a pain in my ass. Is that cool? -jon -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA

Re: Volunteer Wanted

2002-01-08 Thread Ted Husted
apmail, Could you please add [EMAIL PROTECTED] to the list of people receiving [EMAIL PROTECTED] mail Thanks! -- Ted husted ([EMAIL PROTECTED]). Paulo Gaspar wrote: Ok Ted, At the moment I do not have enough time to assume the responsibility for the whole thing but I am willing

Re: Mission ...

2002-01-09 Thread Ted Husted
Danny Angus wrote: If Jakarta != java and/or Jakarta != server, (which appeared on this list a few days ago, but I cant find the original mail) then the mission statement is at odds with the project, which must at best create bad karma and at worst it broadcasts a misleading message about the

Re: License change for new year ?

2002-01-09 Thread Ted Husted
I think on a continuing basis, Committers should update the copyright notice to include the current year whenever they update a source file. This will happen most often in the early part of a year, but should happen year-round. So, as Peter said, if you revise a source file from 1999, you should

Re: License change for new year ?

2002-01-09 Thread Ted Husted
Yes, it's on my list. Jon Scott Stevens wrote: on 1/9/02 6:49 AM, Sam Ruby [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Ted Husted wrote: I think on a continuing basis, Committers should update the copyright notice to include the current year whenever they update a source file. This will happen most

Re: Mission ...

2002-01-09 Thread Ted Husted
SHORT TERM PLAN There's a proposed update to the mission page at http://jakarta.apache.org/site/mission2.html It uses the language from our latest charter, http://jakarta.apache.org/site/pmc/01-03-19-meeting-summary.html at 2.1 and also adds information about the Apache Software

Re: release signing policy?

2002-01-10 Thread Ted Husted
even be good to move the full CVS access info into this area - whatever. Let me know your thoughts. Conor -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web

Re: release signing policy?

2002-01-10 Thread Ted Husted
Conor MacNeill wrote: Perhaps it could be part of a committer howto page dealing with how to put together a release. I can take the lead on this part. I have some notes, and if anyone want to send along anything pertinent that they already have, please feel free. -Ted. -- To unsubscribe,

Re: release signing policy?

2002-01-10 Thread Ted Husted
Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: On 1/10/02 8:18 AM, Ted Husted [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Conor MacNeill wrote: Perhaps it could be part of a committer howto page dealing with how to put together a release. I can take the lead on this part. I have some notes, and if anyone want to send

Re: [PATCH] project descriptions index.xml

2002-01-11 Thread Ted Husted
OK, Danny. If you don't have karma to site2, I'll punch it up. -Ted. Danny Angus wrote: Hi, I like the table of descriptions, but have a patch for James' description .. cvs -z9 diff -u index.xml Index: index.xml === RCS

Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage

2002-01-11 Thread Ted Husted
to the individual XML subprojects, so that vistors would go to the XML start page first, and proceed from there. Shane (our XML lurker) -- Does that seem OK to you? -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web applications with Struts. -- Tel +1 585 737-3463. -- Web http

Groupware Website Recommendations

2002-01-11 Thread Ted Husted
setup some mailing lists and a CVS might work for the second. Just wondered if anyone was already doing that successfully for a reasonable price. -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web applications with Struts. -- Tel +1 585 737-3463. -- Web http://www.husted.com

Re: [OT] Groupware Website Recommendations

2002-01-11 Thread Ted Husted
Since the rates weren't published, I figured as much :) This is still in the speculative stages, but in the event that we attract some capital, I'd very much like to come knocking on collab.net's door. In the meantime, I'd like to get started it on the right foot, but since it's not an open

Re: proposal for the jakarta startpage

2002-01-13 Thread Ted Husted
was originally put in by Jon Stevens, not any of the Commons committers. http://jakarta.apache.org/site/newproject.html -- Ted Husted, Husted dot Com, Fairport NY USA. -- Building Java web applications with Struts. -- Tel +1 585 737-3463. -- Web http://www.husted.com/struts/ Peter Donald

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