Re: [site] thinking about adding a couple of links from resources

2004-04-09 Thread robert burrell donkin
hi martin

i'll do my best to present what (seems to me) a complex issue and 
currently unresolved by the board.

the question is whether:

1 apache distributions must contain only artifacts licensed under the 
ASF 2.0 (unless an exception is granted by the board)

or:

2 whether they may contain ASF compatible binaries that have their own 
licenses.

several senior ASF figures were of the opinion that 1 is acceptable 
since tarballed ready-to-run releases could be provided by downstream 
distributors, packagers and porters and that there is no reason why 
java should be treated differently. the problems that this approach 
would cause for java applications were pointed out and (i think) 
everyone learnt something. brian promised to go away and think about 
all the issues.

anyway, one thing which became clear to me is that jakarta could do a 
lot more to promote the acceptance of ASF java applications in 
mainstream packagers and ports. i think that part of this is to let 
users know that there are other options available (as well as the 
standard ready-to-run tarballs). that's why i proposed these links.

- robert

On 7 Apr 2004, at 04:34, Martin Cooper wrote:



-Original Message-
From: robert burrell donkin
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Subject: [site] thinking about adding a couple of links from resources
in the light of the recent debate over on licensing about the 
inability
for java folks to take their jakarta fix in the usual packaged/ported
*nix fashion
For the benefit of those of us not on licensing@, could you, or someone
else, summarise that debate briefly, please? That list doesn't appear 
to be
in public archives. (I'm on license@, which is publicly archived - I 
didn't
realise there were two separate lists.)

TIA.

--
Martin Cooper

, i thought i might add links to a couple of well-known
downstream distributors of packages and ports to the resources
(unofficial) section:
http://www.jpackage.org/
http://www.freebsd.org/ports/java.html
comments anyone?

- robert

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RE: [site] thinking about adding a couple of links from resources

2004-04-06 Thread Martin Cooper


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 Subject: [site] thinking about adding a couple of links from resources


 in the light of the recent debate over on licensing about the inability
 for java folks to take their jakarta fix in the usual packaged/ported
 *nix fashion

For the benefit of those of us not on licensing@, could you, or someone
else, summarise that debate briefly, please? That list doesn't appear to be
in public archives. (I'm on license@, which is publicly archived - I didn't
realise there were two separate lists.)

TIA.

--
Martin Cooper


 , i thought i might add links to a couple of well-known
 downstream distributors of packages and ports to the resources
 (unofficial) section:

 http://www.jpackage.org/
 http://www.freebsd.org/ports/java.html

 comments anyone?

 - robert


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Re: [site] thinking about adding a couple of links from resources

2004-04-06 Thread Stefan Bodewig
On Tue, 6 Apr 2004, robert burrell donkin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:

 i thought i might add links to a couple of well-known downstream
 distributors of packages and ports to the resources (unofficial)
 section:
 
 http://www.jpackage.org/
 http://www.freebsd.org/ports/java.html

+1

Stefan

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