Re: [PROPOSAL] As it ever were (draft 2)

2003-12-28 Thread Stephen Colebourne
-PROPOSITION (1)- * Require all Jakarta products (or subprojects) to file regular reports with the PMC. You mean 'make each subproject work like a TLP' don't you? Since the PMC cannot delegate its responsibilities, the report would have to be prepared by a PMC member, ideally one directly

Re: [PROPOSAL] As it ever were (draft 2)

2003-12-28 Thread Ted Husted
-PROPOSITION (1)- * Require all Jakarta products (or subprojects) to file regular reports with the PMC. You mean 'make each subproject work like a TLP' don't you? Since the PMC cannot delegate its responsibilities, the report would have to be prepared by a PMC member, ideally one directly

Re: [PROPOSAL] As it ever were (draft 2)

2003-12-28 Thread Ted Husted
- Original message From: Stephen Colebourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 14:16:26 + Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] As it ever were (draft 2) Since the PMC cannot delegate its responsibilities

Re: [PROPOSAL] As it ever were (draft 2)

2003-12-28 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
On Dec 28, 2003, at 10:48 AM, Ted Husted wrote: - Original message From: Stephen Colebourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 14:16:26 + Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] As it ever were (draft 2) Since

Re: [PROPOSAL] As it ever were (draft 2)

2003-12-28 Thread Stephen McConnell
PROTECTED] Received: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 14:16:26 + Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] As it ever were (draft 2) Since the PMC cannot delegate its responsibilities, the report would have to be prepared by a PMC member, ideally one directly involved with subproject. (A likely suspect being the DEV list

Re: [PROPOSAL] As it ever were (draft 2)

2003-12-28 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr.
From: Stephen Colebourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List [EMAIL PROTECTED] Received: Sun, 28 Dec 2003 14:16:26 + Subject: Re: [PROPOSAL] As it ever were (draft 2) Since the PMC cannot delegate its responsibilities, the report would have

Re: [PROPOSAL] As it ever were (draft 2)

2003-12-28 Thread Stephen McConnell
] As it ever were (draft 2) Since the PMC cannot delegate its responsibilities, the report would have to be prepared by a PMC member, ideally one directly involved with subproject. (A likely suspect being the DEV list moderator.) Er, doesn't this just emphasize how broken this process is? Not that I

Re: [PROPOSAL] As it ever were (draft 2)

2003-12-25 Thread Ted Husted
[PROPOSAL] As it ever were I've incorporated many of the suggestions made on the list and prepared another draft for community review. -ISSUE- The ASF Board has indicated that it does not believe that the Jakarta PMC, in its present form, is capable of providing oversight of all the subprojects