Re: Call on Stein to resin
Vic, Notwithstanding your arguments this is not the appropriate forum for this. This list is for project management discussion regarding the Jakarta project. Geronimo is not under the jursidiction of the Jakarta project. If you want to make trouble please make it in the appropriate place, where you can be sure to be acknowledged by people who know about the issues. d. *** The information in this e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient (or responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient) please notify us immediately on 0141 306 2050 and delete the message from your computer. You may not copy or forward it or use or disclose its contents to any other person. As Internet communications are capable of data corruption Student Loans Company Limited does not accept any responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. For this reason it may be inappropriate to rely on advice or opinions contained in an e-mail without obtaining written confirmation of it. Neither Student Loans Company Limited or the sender accepts any liability or responsibility for viruses as it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). Opinions and views expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender and may not reflect the opinions and views of The Student Loans Company Limited. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Call on Stein to resin
Vic, Notwithstanding your arguments this is not the appropriate forum for this. This list is for project management discussion regarding the Jakarta project. Geronimo is not under the jursidiction of the Jakarta project. If you want to make trouble please make it in the appropriate place, where you can be sure to be acknowledged by people who know about the issues. d. ýwhy it is not the appropriate forum for this shouldnt we know the truth??!!!ý We must know the truth.ý i wonder why you try to defend yourself if you are right and didn't make any think ý unfair !!!ý or you feel that you feel guilty??!! why you feel so?? I WONDERý Will you rebuild the copied modules or just will rename it?ý sure if they were stolen !!! ý _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Call on Stein to resin
On Tue, 11 Nov 2003, mohammad nabil wrote: Vic, Notwithstanding your arguments this is not the appropriate forum for this. This list is for project management discussion regarding the Jakarta project. Geronimo is not under the jursidiction of the Jakarta project. If you want to make trouble please make it in the appropriate place, where you can be sure to be acknowledged by people who know about the issues. d. ýwhy it is not the appropriate forum for this shouldnt we know the truth??!!!ý We must know the truth.ý i wonder why you try to defend yourself if you are right and didn't make any think ý unfair !!!ý or you feel that you feel guilty??!! why you feel so?? I WONDERý Will you rebuild the copied modules or just will rename it?ý sure if they were stolen !!! ý Because this forum is not Geronimo's forum. This is for Jakarta, a project at Apache specialising in some areas of server-side Java. Some parts of Jakarta could be being used in Geronimo. I've seen no defending happening, rather a standard statement that the ASF takes licencing issues very seriously, which is pretty clear to those who listen on an Apache list by the man[code]-hunts that happen whenever the licencing is not happy. What's with all the odd characters in your email? Hen - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Call on Stein to resin
On Tuesday, November 11, 2003, at 09:57 AM, mohammad nabil wrote: Vic, Notwithstanding your arguments this is not the appropriate forum for this. This list is for project management discussion regarding the Jakarta project. Geronimo is not under the jursidiction of the Jakarta project. If you want to make trouble please make it in the appropriate place, where you can be sure to be acknowledged by people who know about the issues. d. ýwhy it is not the appropriate forum for this shouldnt we know the truth??!!!ý We must know the truth.ý It has nothing to do with Jakarta! This is [EMAIL PROTECTED] i wonder why you try to defend yourself if you are right and didn't make any think ý unfair !!!ý Please, go to the incubator and geronimo-dev lists. That's where all of this should be discussed, because it HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH JAKARTA! JAKARTA != APACHE != GERONIMO or you feel that you feel guilty??!! why you feel so?? I WONDERý Will you rebuild the copied modules or just will rename it?ý sure if they were stolen !!! ý It turns out, JBoss might have incorrectly handled log4j code. Are you yelling at them too? The ASF, the Incubator PMC, and the Geronimo team are working to evaluate the claims and make any fixes as required. geir _ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Call on Stein to resin
why it is not the appropriate forum for this shouldnt we know the truth??!!! We must know the truth Quoting from my original message which you appear NOT to have read before replying to it: This list is for project management discussion regarding the Jakarta project. Geronimo is not under the jursidiction of the Jakarta project. Since you ask so nicely I'll reveal a secret to you... YOU may know the TRUTH... But first you must subscribe to the geronimo mailing list and take your geronimo questions over there. @see http://incubator.apache.org d. *** The information in this e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient (or responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient) please notify us immediately on 0141 306 2050 and delete the message from your computer. You may not copy or forward it or use or disclose its contents to any other person. As Internet communications are capable of data corruption Student Loans Company Limited does not accept any responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. For this reason it may be inappropriate to rely on advice or opinions contained in an e-mail without obtaining written confirmation of it. Neither Student Loans Company Limited or the sender accepts any liability or responsibility for viruses as it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). Opinions and views expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender and may not reflect the opinions and views of The Student Loans Company Limited. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. **
Re: Call on Stein to resin
Because this forum is not Geronimo's forum. This is for Jakarta, a project at Apache specialising in some areas of server-side Java. Some parts of Jakarta could be being used in Geronimo. Hen then, What is the Truth?!! Only the Truth and nothing but the Truth! -mnm _ Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963 - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Call on Stein to resin
Since you ask so nicely I'll reveal a secret to you... YOU may know the TRUTH... But first you must subscribe to the geronimo mailing list and take your geronimo questions over there. @see http://incubator.apache.org d. mmm, ok i gave you your chance and tursted you will say What the Truth is!! but you played :( as you like, i just wanted to help bye -mnm _ Help STOP SPAM with the new MSN 8 and get 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Call on Stein to resin
as you like, i just wanted to help Mohammed,-- [EMAIL PROTECTED] That is the Right place to discuss this. d. *** The information in this e-mail is confidential and for use by the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient (or responsible for delivery of the message to the intended recipient) please notify us immediately on 0141 306 2050 and delete the message from your computer. You may not copy or forward it or use or disclose its contents to any other person. As Internet communications are capable of data corruption Student Loans Company Limited does not accept any responsibility for changes made to this message after it was sent. For this reason it may be inappropriate to rely on advice or opinions contained in an e-mail without obtaining written confirmation of it. Neither Student Loans Company Limited or the sender accepts any liability or responsibility for viruses as it is your responsibility to scan attachments (if any). Opinions and views expressed in this e-mail are those of the sender and may not reflect the opinions and views of The Student Loans Company Limited. This footnote also confirms that this email message has been swept for the presence of computer viruses. ** - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Call on Stein to resin
At 04:11 PM 11/11/2003, you wrote: Since you ask so nicely I'll reveal a secret to you... YOU may know the TRUTH... But first you must subscribe to the geronimo mailing list and take your geronimo questions over there. @see http://incubator.apache.org d. mmm, ok i gave you your chance and tursted you will say What the Truth is!! but you played :( as you like, i just wanted to help The truth is that : - you don't seem to understand english very well :) - you are NOT on the correct mailing list - each project is managed seperately, the foundation only oversees global management and policy, so if somebody messes up in one project it should FIRST be handled there. If it really goes out of hand it might come here - or you're just trying to pull a joke on everyone, but this is not the best time for one. - you need to cool down. The ASF is an open community, it's almost impossible to hide things here :) Regards, Serge Huber. - -- --- -=[ shuber2 at jahia dot com ]= --- -- - www.jahia.org : A collaborative source CMS and Portal Server - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Call on Stein to resin
[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote I will try to make this last message on the topic of ethics, its up to the people sitting on the hands to see this is as a problem and do something. Well, I've been sitting on my hands realy hard trying not to jump in with a witty and sarcastic reply supporting the board@ - in both the technical and ethical realms - and fanning the flames back at Vic, but I guess I've failed. 8- Especially since I haven't thought of anything nearly as funny as the 'switch to Resin' jokes yet. Really, though; please move the discussion to an appropriate forum. [EMAIL PROTECTED] is a good one for general project management stuff (like allegations of legal problems); geronimo-dev@ will actually reach the people working on the project - i.e. ones who will be reviewing the code for this issue; and you should be able to file any official notices to the [EMAIL PROTECTED] list, which is the governing body for the Incubator project itself, and hence the only real authority that matters in an organizational sense at this point (below the board//members). = - Shane eof .sig=http://apachecon.com/ November in Vegas, baby! / - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Call on Stein to resin
(and I call on Greg Stein to stay put...) On Monday, November 10, 2003, at 04:21 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Oh! resign. I thought you wanted him to use Resin rather than Tomcat. geir On Monday, November 10, 2003, at 04:05 PM, Vic Cekvenich wrote: http://theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=22337#101159 http://theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=22337#101173 I call on Greg Stein to resign. .V - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Call on Stein to resin
Vic Cekvenich wrote: http://theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=22337#101159 http://theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=22337#101173 I call on Greg Stein to resign. Why? -- === Jim Jagielski [|] [EMAIL PROTECTED] [|] http://www.jaguNET.com/ A society that will trade a little liberty for a little order will lose both and deserve neither - T.Jefferson - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Re: Call on Stein to resin
[for amusement value. mine mainly. i don't speak for apache in any way] I too call on Greg to move to Resin. Not that it'll run Python there either, but it'll not run Python faster on port 80. I call on Vik to increase his monthly flames to be once a week, the userbase is demanding more of your words. I call on JBoss to use an open licence and not the utterly confusing and unusable LGPL licence written for C. I call on people to stop claiming that JBoss should get J2EE certified for free unless the ownership of JBoss is given to a non-profit organisation. Hey! There's a solution. If JBoss LLC can't pay the money for licensing like their competitors IBM and BEA, why don't they donate JBoss the codebase to the community [Apache could provide space under a far less restrictive licence] and JBoss LLC could focus on doing their real job, JBoss support. Hen On Mon, 10 Nov 2003, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: (and I call on Greg Stein to stay put...) On Monday, November 10, 2003, at 04:21 PM, Geir Magnusson Jr. wrote: Oh! resign. I thought you wanted him to use Resin rather than Tomcat. geir On Monday, November 10, 2003, at 04:05 PM, Vic Cekvenich wrote: http://theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=22337#101159 http://theserverside.com/home/thread.jsp?thread_id=22337#101173 I call on Greg Stein to resign. .V - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] -- Geir Magnusson Jr 203-247-1713(m) [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED] For additional commands, e-mail: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
