Re: Jakarta Apache Tomcat as a TLP ?

2005-03-22 Thread robert burrell donkin
On Mon, 2005-03-21 at 17:20 -0800, Bill Barker wrote: - Original Message - From: Stephen Colebourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List general@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:45 PM Subject: Re: Jakarta Apache Tomcat as a TLP ? From: Henri Gomez [EMAIL

RE: Jakarta Apache Tomcat as a TLP ?

2005-03-21 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Jim Jagielski wrote: Mladen Turk wrote: Anyhow, what are your feelings that we (Tomcat developers), propose to the ASF to be nominated as TLP? I'd say that it is about time. I know that some of you will think (since it's coming from me) 'Damn, JBoss is trying to control the Tomcat', but

Re: Jakarta Apache Tomcat as a TLP ?

2005-03-21 Thread Mladen Turk
Noel J. Bergman wrote: I am not aware of any complaints regarding your technical contributions. Cool, means so much to me. I also have no complaints on your technical skills :) Only over your employer's attempts at self-portraiture. If anything, I am more likely to feel sorry for you and Remy

RE: Jakarta Apache Tomcat as a TLP ?

2005-03-21 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Mladen Turk wrote: Noel J. Bergman wrote: I am not aware of any complaints regarding your technical contributions. Cool, means so much to me. I also have no complaints on your technical skills :) My observation, not opinion, was in response to your expressing concern that there would be

Re: Jakarta Apache Tomcat as a TLP ?

2005-03-21 Thread Henri Gomez
Well I'd like to know the pros and cons of Tomcat being TLP. As I said in tomcat-dev, it was proposed when ant became TLP and at this time the consensus was to stay under jakarta umbrella. What motivate the move to TLP now. Regards On Mon, 21 Mar 2005 15:16:51 -0500, Noel J. Bergman [EMAIL

Re: Jakarta Apache Tomcat as a TLP ?

2005-03-21 Thread Mladen Turk
Noel J. Bergman wrote: I'm mystified as to how you could derive the latter from my comment. Please, lets calm the things down. Henri will write an email to SD magazine, and the earth will still spin tomorrow. Regards, Mladen. - To

Re: Jakarta Apache Tomcat as a TLP ?

2005-03-21 Thread Torsten Curdt
Please, lets calm the things down. Henri will write an email to SD magazine, and the earth will still spin tomorrow. ...that's an excellent ending for this discussion :) Thanks -- Torsten signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: Jakarta Apache Tomcat as a TLP ?

2005-03-21 Thread Stephen Colebourne
From: Henri Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well I'd like to know the pros and cons of Tomcat being TLP. As I said in tomcat-dev, it was proposed when ant became TLP and at this time the consensus was to stay under jakarta umbrella. What motivate the move to TLP now. Currently, Tomcat developers are

Re: Jakarta Apache Tomcat as a TLP ?

2005-03-21 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Pros: - Tomcat pmc will be responsible for all its actions and decisions - Report directly to board every quarter - No meddling from outsiders (jakarta-general folks and others (read jakarta pmc) from the peanut gallery :) - Top Level domain - http://tomcat.apache.org/ - One of pmc members can

RE: Jakarta Apache Tomcat as a TLP ?

2005-03-21 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Dims, The new TLP would be expected to address the same issues, and to work with the PRC and other parts of the ASF, but they'd be more immediately associated with them, too. --- Noel - To unsubscribe, e-mail: [EMAIL

Re: Jakarta Apache Tomcat as a TLP ?

2005-03-21 Thread Bill Barker
- Original Message - From: Stephen Colebourne [EMAIL PROTECTED] To: Jakarta General List general@jakarta.apache.org Sent: Monday, March 21, 2005 2:45 PM Subject: Re: Jakarta Apache Tomcat as a TLP ? From: Henri Gomez [EMAIL PROTECTED] Well I'd like to know the pros and cons of Tomcat

RE: Jakarta Apache Tomcat as a TLP ?

2005-03-21 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Currently, Tomcat developers are having to take time away from their main task (coding) to answer management issues raised by Jakarta. This raises the question of whether Tomcat is big enough and mature enough to manage these issues itself, without the involvement of Jakarta. Great.

Re: Jakarta Apache Tomcat as a TLP ?

2005-03-21 Thread Davanum Srinivas
Yes, Noel. i have the same feeling that Stephen has: it seems likely (based on emails to the thread from Tomcat committers) that this PR release would have been a non-issue. So the tomcat committers would be doing it on their own terms. with no one pushing them. Quote from Mladen's email: so

RE: Jakarta Apache Tomcat as a TLP ?

2005-03-21 Thread Noel J. Bergman
Please, lets calm the things down. Henri will write an email to SD magazine, and the earth will still spin tomorrow. Well, actually, if it would pause briefly on Wednesday, that'd be OK. I have to fly east, and would rather not chase the horizon for 3000 miles. --- Noel

Re: Jakarta Apache Tomcat as a TLP ?

2005-03-21 Thread Geir Magnusson Jr
On Mar 21, 2005, at 3:51 PM, Noel J. Bergman wrote: Please, lets calm the things down. Henri will write an email to SD magazine, and the earth will still spin tomorrow. Well, actually, if it would pause briefly on Wednesday, that'd be OK. I have to fly east, and would rather not chase the