cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml

[tetsuya]

tetsuya 2004/04/19 20:34:52

  Modified:docs index.html
   xdocsindex.xml
  Log:
  disposal
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
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  Index: index.html
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.407
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  diff -u -r1.407 -r1.408
  --- index.html19 Apr 2004 14:45:12 -  1.407
  +++ index.html20 Apr 2004 03:34:52 -  1.408
  @@ -280,11 +280,8 @@
   
19 April 2004 -  Tapestry 3.0 
Released
   14 April 
2004 -  Velocity 1.4 Released
  -09 April 
2004 -  Tapestry 3.0 RC3 Released
  -02 April 
2004 -  Tapestry 3.0 RC2 Released
   30 March 
2004 -  Lucene 1.4 RC2 Released
   26 March 
2004 -  Tomcat mod_jk2 web server connector version 2.0.4 Released
  -17 March 
2004 -  Tapestry 3.0 RC1 Released
   08 March 
2004 -  Tomcat 3.3.2 Final Available
   
   Other news from Jakarta 
  @@ -295,8 +292,6 @@
   24 
March 2004  - jUDDI graduates from the Incubator
   24 
March 2004  - Maven 1.0 RC2 Released
   18 March 
2004  - Jakarta Struts' graduation with honors into Apache Struts
  -16 
March 2004  - ASF Announces CeBit 2004 Booth
  -12 March 
2004  - HiveMind's Graduation From Jakarta Commons Sandbox
   
   
   
  
  
  
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  Index: index.xml
  ===
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  diff -u -r1.341 -r1.342
  --- index.xml 19 Apr 2004 14:45:13 -  1.341
  +++ index.xml 20 Apr 2004 03:34:52 -  1.342
  @@ -68,11 +68,8 @@
   
19 April 2004 -  Tapestry 3.0 
Released
   14 April 
2004 -  Velocity 1.4 Released
  -09 April 
2004 -  Tapestry 3.0 RC3 Released
  -02 April 
2004 -  Tapestry 3.0 RC2 Released
   30 March 
2004 -  Lucene 1.4 RC2 Released
   26 March 
2004 -  Tomcat mod_jk2 web server connector version 2.0.4 Released
  -17 March 
2004 -  Tapestry 3.0 RC1 Released
   08 March 
2004 -  Tomcat 3.3.2 Final Available
   
   Other news from Jakarta 
  @@ -83,8 +80,6 @@
   24 
March 2004  - jUDDI graduates from the Incubator
   24 
March 2004  - Maven 1.0 RC2 Released
   18 March 
2004  - Jakarta Struts' graduation with honors into Apache Struts
  -16 
March 2004  - ASF Announces CeBit 2004 Booth
  -12 March 
2004  - HiveMind's Graduation From Jakarta Commons Sandbox
   
   
   
  
  
  

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[tetsuya]

tetsuya 2004/03/26 16:29:10

  Modified:docs index.html
   xdocsindex.xml
  Log:
  Fixed the url of Apache Portals
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.394 +15 -3 jakarta-site2/docs/index.html
  
  Index: index.html
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.393
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  diff -u -r1.393 -r1.394
  --- index.html27 Mar 2004 00:24:56 -  1.393
  +++ index.html27 Mar 2004 00:29:10 -  1.394
  @@ -919,19 +919,31 @@
   
   
   
  -Apache Portals Project
  +http://portals.apache.org/";>Apache Portals Project
   
   
   
   
   
   
  -Jetspeed
  +Jetspeed-1
   
   
   
   
  -A Java user customizable portal system based on Turbine framework 
-- Related: Pluto Project, http://ws.apache.org/wsrp4j/";>WSRP4J --
  +A Java user customizable portal system based on Turbine framework
  +
  +
  +
  +
  +
  +
  +http://portals.apache.org/jetspeed-2/";>Jetspeed-2
  +
  +
  +
  +
  +Jetspeed-2 is the next-generation enterprise portal at Apache.
   
   
   
  
  
  
  1.331 +7 -3  jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml
  
  Index: index.xml
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.330
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  diff -u -r1.330 -r1.331
  --- index.xml 27 Mar 2004 00:25:00 -  1.330
  +++ index.xml 27 Mar 2004 00:29:10 -  1.331
  @@ -334,11 +334,15 @@
   
   
   
  -Apache Portals Project
  +http://portals.apache.org/";>Apache Portals Project
   
   
  -Jetspeed
  -A Java user customizable portal system based on Turbine framework 
-- Related: Pluto Project, http://ws.apache.org/wsrp4j/";>WSRP4J --
  +Jetspeed-1
  +A Java user customizable portal system based on Turbine 
framework
  +
  +
  +http://portals.apache.org/jetspeed-2/";>Jetspeed-2
  +Jetspeed-2 is the next-generation enterprise portal at Apache.
   
   
   
  
  
  

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hgomez  2004/03/26 08:54:50

  Modified:xdocsindex.xml
  Log:
  jk2 2.0.4 release
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
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  Index: index.xml
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.328
  retrieving revision 1.329
  diff -u -r1.328 -r1.329
  --- index.xml 25 Mar 2004 20:41:19 -  1.328
  +++ index.xml 26 Mar 2004 16:54:50 -  1.329
  @@ -66,6 +66,7 @@
   Apache License Renewal
   Jakarta Product news
   
  +26 March 
2004 -  Tomcat mod_jk2 web server connector version 2.0.4 Released
   17 March 
2004 -  Tapestry 3.0 R.C.1 Released
   08 March 
2004 -  Tomcat 3.3.2 Final Available
   03 March 
2004 -  POI 2.5-FINAL Released
  
  
  

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rdonkin 2004/03/03 13:20:43

  Modified:docs index.html
   xdocsindex.xml
  Log:
  Moved Martin's farewell message into an 'In Memoriam' section.
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.383 +16 -1 jakarta-site2/docs/index.html
  
  Index: index.html
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.382
  retrieving revision 1.383
  diff -u -r1.382 -r1.383
  --- index.html3 Mar 2004 12:47:33 -   1.382
  +++ index.html3 Mar 2004 21:20:42 -   1.383
  @@ -245,13 +245,28 @@
   
 
   
  +  In Memoriam
  +
  +  
  +  
  +
  +
  +Farewell, http://www.apache.org/foundation/martin.html";>Martin Pöschl. 
Your words and works live on.  
  +
  +
  +
  +  
  +  
  +
  +
  +  
  +
 Headlines
   
 
 
   
   http://www.apache.org/licenses/";>Apache License Renewal
  -http://www.apache.org/foundation/martin.html";>Farewell to Martin Pöschl - we 
miss you
   Jakarta Product news
   
   03 March 
2004 -  POI 2.5-FINAL Released
  
  
  
  1.320 +5 -2  jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml
  
  Index: index.xml
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.319
  retrieving revision 1.320
  diff -u -r1.319 -r1.320
  --- index.xml 3 Mar 2004 12:47:33 -   1.319
  +++ index.xml 3 Mar 2004 21:20:42 -   1.320
  @@ -58,10 +58,13 @@
   http://www.apache.org/foundation/projects.html";>ASF Project page.
   
   
  -
  +
  +
  +Farewell, Martin 
Pöschl. Your words and works live on.  
  +
  +
   
   Apache License Renewal
  -Farewell to Martin 
Pöschl - we miss you
   Jakarta Product news
   
   03 March 
2004 -  POI 2.5-FINAL Released
  
  
  

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[tetsuya]

tetsuya 2004/03/01 15:37:27

  Modified:docs index.html
   xdocsindex.xml
  Log:
  Apache Software Foundation => "The" Apache Software Foundation
  In the eyes of the law, we should append "The".
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.379 +2 -2  jakarta-site2/docs/index.html
  
  Index: index.html
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.378
  retrieving revision 1.379
  diff -u -r1.378 -r1.379
  --- index.html1 Mar 2004 15:52:53 -   1.378
  +++ index.html1 Mar 2004 23:37:27 -   1.379
  @@ -206,7 +206,7 @@
   Related projects have their own project management, developers, committers, 
their own websites and mailing lists.
   
   
  -To catch up with the major releases and important information from The 
Jakarta Project, we recommend you to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">subscribe 
to mailing list for the Announcements. To 
keep informed about the news from Apache Software Foundation and its projects, please 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">subscribe to http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-announce";>Apache 
Announcement List as well.
  +To catch up with the major releases and important information from The 
Jakarta Project, we recommend you to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">subscribe 
to mailing list for the Announcements. To 
keep informed about the news from The Apache Software Foundation and its projects, 
please mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">subscribe to http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-announce";>Apache 
Announcement List as well.
   
   
   All Jakarta product support is provided through the subproject
  @@ -216,7 +216,7 @@
   before asking our volunteers to donate additional time and energy to your project.
   
   
  -Jakarta is a project of The Apache Software Foundation(ASF), and like all Apache 
Projects, encourages a collaborative, consensus-based
  +Jakarta is a project of The Apache Software Foundation (ASF), and like all Apache 
Projects, encourages a collaborative, consensus-based
   development process, offers an open and pragmatic
   http://www.apache.org/foundation/licence-FAQ.html";>software license, 
and strives to
   create software of the highest quality. 
  
  
  
  1.316 +2 -2  jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml
  
  Index: index.xml
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.315
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  diff -u -r1.315 -r1.316
  --- index.xml 1 Mar 2004 15:52:53 -   1.315
  +++ index.xml 1 Mar 2004 23:37:27 -   1.316
  @@ -22,7 +22,7 @@
   Related projects have their own project management, developers, committers, 
their own websites and mailing lists.
   
   
  -To catch up with the major releases and important information from The 
Jakarta Project, we recommend you to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">subscribe 
to mailing list for the Announcements. To 
keep informed about the news from Apache Software Foundation and its projects, please 
mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">subscribe to http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-announce";>Apache 
Announcement List as well.
  +To catch up with the major releases and important information from The 
Jakarta Project, we recommend you to mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">subscribe 
to mailing list for the Announcements. To 
keep informed about the news from The Apache Software Foundation and its projects, 
please mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]">subscribe to http://www.apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#foundation-announce";>Apache 
Announcement List as well.
   
   
   All Jakarta product support is provided through the subproject
  @@ -33,7 +33,7 @@
   
   
   
  -Jakarta is a project of The Apache Software Foundation(ASF), and like all Apache 
Projects, encourages a collaborative, consensus-based
  +Jakarta is a project of The Apache Software Foundation (ASF), and like all Apache 
Projects, encourages a collaborative, consensus-based
   development process, offers an open and pragmatic
   http://www.apache.org/foundation/licence-FAQ.html";>software license, 
and strives to
   create software of the highest quality. 
  
  
  

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rdonkin 2004/02/24 13:57:54

  Modified:docs index.html
   xdocsindex.xml
  Log:
  Reorganizing news. The news documents have been moved into thenew directory. This 
should allow people to link to permenant urls. The old documents have been replaced by 
redirects though I may add some entries into the .htaccess file later.
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.374 +3 -3  jakarta-site2/docs/index.html
  
  Index: index.html
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.373
  retrieving revision 1.374
  diff -u -r1.373 -r1.374
  --- index.html24 Feb 2004 21:44:37 -  1.373
  +++ index.html24 Feb 2004 21:57:54 -  1.374
  @@ -241,7 +241,7 @@
   
   http://www.apache.org/foundation/martin.html";>Farewell to Martin Pöschl
   we miss you
  -Jakarta Product news
  +Jakarta Product news
   
   23 
February 2004 -  Tomcat 5.0.19 Stable and Tomcat 4.1.30 Stable released
   21 
February 2004 -  Velocity Tools 1.1 RC 1 Released
  @@ -252,8 +252,8 @@
   25 
January 2004 -  Commons Collections 3.0 released
   16 
January 2004 -  Commons HttpClient 2.0 RC 3 Released
   
  -Other news from Jakarta 
  -and Elsewhere
  +Other news from Jakarta 
  +and Elsewhere
   
   13 
February 2004  - Apache Cocoon 2.1.4 Released
   12 
February 2004  - Ant 1.6.1 Released
  
  
  
  1.311 +3 -3  jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml
  
  Index: index.xml
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.310
  retrieving revision 1.311
  diff -u -r1.310 -r1.311
  --- index.xml 24 Feb 2004 21:44:38 -  1.310
  +++ index.xml 24 Feb 2004 21:57:54 -  1.311
  @@ -48,7 +48,7 @@
   
   Farewell to Martin 
Pöschl
   we miss you
  -Jakarta Product news
  +Jakarta Product news
   
   23 
February 2004 -  Tomcat 5.0.19 Stable and Tomcat 4.1.30 Stable released
   21 
February 2004 -  Velocity Tools 1.1 RC 1 Released
  @@ -59,8 +59,8 @@
   25 
January 2004 -  Commons Collections 3.0 released
   16 
January 2004 -  Commons HttpClient 2.0 RC 3 Released
   
  -Other news from Jakarta 
  -and Elsewhere
  +Other news from Jakarta 
  +and Elsewhere
   
   13 
February 2004  - Apache Cocoon 2.1.4 Released
   12 
February 2004  - Ant 1.6.1 Released
  
  
  

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[tetsuya]

tetsuya 2003/10/26 14:18:14

  Modified:docs index.html
   xdocsindex.xml
  Log:
  26 October 2003 - Cactus 1.5-rc1 Released
  
  Congratulations, Vincent Massol and Jakarta Cactus Team!
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.333 +1 -2  jakarta-site2/docs/index.html
  
  Index: index.html
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.332
  retrieving revision 1.333
  diff -u -r1.332 -r1.333
  --- index.html23 Oct 2003 03:19:51 -  1.332
  +++ index.html26 Oct 2003 22:18:14 -  1.333
  @@ -240,6 +240,7 @@
   
   Jakarta Product 
news
   
  +26 October 2003 -  
Cactus 1.5-rc1 Released
   22 October 2003 -  
Commons/Net 1.1.0 Released
   22 October 2003 -  
Commons DBCP 1.1 Released
   22 October 2003 -  
Commons Pool 1.1 Released
  @@ -248,8 +249,6 @@
   11 October 2003 -  
Tomcat mod_jk 1.2.5 Connector Released
   10 October 2003 -  
Velocity 1.4 R.C.1 released
   30 September 2003 -  
Pluto is now available at Apache
  -22 September 2003 -  
Tomcat 5.0.12 Beta released
  -07 September 2003 -  
Tapestry 3.0-beta-3 released
   
   Other news from Jakarta 
   and Elsewhere
  
  
  
  1.271 +1 -2  jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml
  
  Index: index.xml
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.270
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  diff -u -r1.270 -r1.271
  --- index.xml 23 Oct 2003 03:19:52 -  1.270
  +++ index.xml 26 Oct 2003 22:18:14 -  1.271
  @@ -46,6 +46,7 @@
   
   Jakarta Product news
   
  +26 October 2003 -  
Cactus 1.5-rc1 Released
   22 October 2003 -  
Commons/Net 1.1.0 Released
   22 October 2003 -  
Commons DBCP 1.1 Released
   22 October 2003 -  
Commons Pool 1.1 Released
  @@ -54,8 +55,6 @@
   11 October 2003 -  
Tomcat mod_jk 1.2.5 Connector Released
   10 October 2003 -  
Velocity 1.4 R.C.1 released
   30 September 2003 -  
Pluto is now available at Apache
  -22 September 2003 -  
Tomcat 5.0.12 Beta released
  -07 September 2003 -  
Tapestry 3.0-beta-3 released
   
   Other news from Jakarta 
   and Elsewhere
  
  
  

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cutting 2003/10/22 09:09:54

  Modified:docs index.html
   xdocsindex.xml
  Log:
  Updated for Lucene 1.3 RC2 release.
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.330 +1 -0  jakarta-site2/docs/index.html
  
  Index: index.html
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.329
  retrieving revision 1.330
  diff -u -r1.329 -r1.330
  --- index.html15 Oct 2003 14:11:41 -  1.329
  +++ index.html22 Oct 2003 16:09:53 -  1.330
  @@ -240,6 +240,7 @@
   
   Jakarta Product 
news
   
  +22 October 2003 -  
Lucene 1.3 RC2 Released
   13 October 2003 -  
Commons HttpClient 2.0 RC2 Released
   11 October 2003 -  
Tomcat mod_jk 1.2.5 Connector Released
   10 October 2003 -  
Velocity 1.4 R.C.1 released
  
  
  
  1.268 +1 -0  jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml
  
  Index: index.xml
  ===
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  retrieving revision 1.267
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  diff -u -r1.267 -r1.268
  --- index.xml 15 Oct 2003 14:11:42 -  1.267
  +++ index.xml 22 Oct 2003 16:09:54 -  1.268
  @@ -46,6 +46,7 @@
   
   Jakarta Product news
   
  +22 October 2003 -  
Lucene 1.3 RC2 Released
   13 October 2003 -  
Commons HttpClient 2.0 RC2 Released
   11 October 2003 -  
Tomcat mod_jk 1.2.5 Connector Released
   10 October 2003 -  
Velocity 1.4 R.C.1 released
  
  
  

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tetsuya 2003/10/07 19:15:23

  Modified:xdocsindex.xml
  Log:
  * Pigeonhole: added many links to subprojects within xml/webservices
  * webservice -> webservices (sorry!)
  
  et cetra
  
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  Index: index.xml
  ===
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  retrieving revision 1.261
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  diff -u -r1.261 -r1.262
  --- index.xml 8 Oct 2003 01:44:29 -   1.261
  +++ index.xml 8 Oct 2003 02:15:23 -   1.262
  @@ -179,7 +179,7 @@
   
   
   Jetspeed
  -A Java user customizable portal system based on Turbine framework 
-- Related: http://jakarta.apache.org/pluto/index.html";>Pluto Project 
--
  +A Java user customizable portal system based on Turbine framework 
-- Related: Pluto Project --
   
   
   Slide
  @@ -211,7 +211,7 @@
   Apache Incubator Project
   Apache James Project
   Apache Maven Project
  -Apache WebService Project
  +Apache WebServices Project
   Apache XML Project
   
   
  @@ -352,7 +352,7 @@
   
   
   
  -Apache WebServices (WS) Project is a collaborative software 
development project dedicated to providing robust, full-featured, commercial-quality, 
and freely available Web Services support on a wide variety of platforms.
  +Apache WebServices (WS) Project is a collaborative software 
development project dedicated to providing robust, full-featured, commercial-quality, 
and freely available Web Services support on a wide variety of platforms, currently 
consists of http://ws.apache.org/axis/";>Axis, http://ws.apache.org/soap/";>SOAP, http://ws.apache.org/wsif/";>WSIF, WSIL, http://ws.apache.org/xmlrpc/";>XMLRPC, etc..
   
   
   
  @@ -361,7 +361,7 @@
   
   
   
  -Apache XML Project is focusing on XML-related activities within 
Apache projects. Apache XML Project currently consists of Xerces, Xalan, FOP, Forrest, 
Xindice, etc.
  +Apache XML Project is focusing on XML-related activities within 
Apache projects. Apache XML Project currently consists of Xerces (http://xml.apache.org/xerces2-j/";>J/http://xml.apache.org/xerces-c/";>C/http://xml.apache.org/xerces-p/";>P), Xalan(http://xml.apache.org/xalan-j/";>J/http://xml.apache.org/xalan-c/";>C), http://xml.apache.org/batik/";>Batik, http://xml.apache.org/fop/";>FOP, http://xml.apache.org/forrest/";>Forrest, http://xml.apache.org/security/";>Security, http://xml.apache.org/xindice/";>Xindice, http://axkit.org/";>AxKit, etc.
   
   
   
  
  
  

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[tetsuya]

tetsuya 2003/10/04 15:03:34

  Modified:docs index.html
   xdocsindex.xml
  Log:
  Pluto Pluto is the Reference Implementation of the Java Portlet Specfication (JSR 
168).
  JaxMe JaxMe 2 is an open source implementation of JAXB, the specification for 
Java/XML binding.
  wsrp4jThe OASIS Web Services for Remote Portlets (WSRP) standard simplifies 
integration of remote applications/content into portals.
  
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  Index: index.html
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.318
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  diff -u -r1.318 -r1.319
  --- index.html4 Oct 2003 01:17:24 -   1.318
  +++ index.html4 Oct 2003 22:03:34 -   1.319
  @@ -796,6 +796,21 @@
   
   
   
  +http://incubator.apache.org/projects/geronimo.html";>Geronimo
  +
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make a J2EE compatible container.
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  -Apache Geronimo is a new effort coordinated by the Apache Software Foundation to 
make a J2EE compatible container.
  +XMLBeans is an XML Schema-based, XML-Java binding tool with cursor-based access to 
the full XML Infoset integrated with convenient, strongly typed Java classes.
   
   
   
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  -http://xml.apache.org/xmlbeans/";>XMLBeans
  +http://jakarta.apache.org/pluto/";>Pluto
   
   
   
   
   
   
  -XMLBeans is an XML Schema-based, XML-Java binding tool with cursor-based access to 
the full XML Infoset integrated with convenient, strongly typed Java classes.
  +Pluto is the Reference Implementation of the Java Portlet Specfication (JSR 168).
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  +
  +
  +
  +
  +
  +
  +http://ws.apache.org/jaxme/";>JaxMe
  +
  +
  +
  +
  +
  +
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binding.
  +
  +
  +
  +
  +
  +
  +
  +http://ws.apache.org/wsrp4j/";>WSRP4J
  +
  +
  +
  +
  +
  +
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of remote applications/content into portals.
   
   
   
  
  
  
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  Index: index.xml
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  retrieving revision 1.259
  diff -u -r1.258 -r1.259
  --- index.xml 4 Oct 2003 01:17:24 -   1.258
  +++ index.xml 4 Oct 2003 22:03:34 -   1.259
  @@ -277,6 +277,13 @@
   
   
   
  +http://incubator.apache.org/projects/geronimo.html";>Geronimo
  +
  +
  +Apache Geronimo is a new effort coordinated by the Apache Software Foundation to 
make a J2EE compatible container.
  +
  +
  +
   http://incubator.apache.org/projects/altrmi/";>AltRMI
   
   AltRMI is a from-scratch replacement for RMI
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  +http://xml.apache.org/xmlbeans/";>XMLBeans
   
   
  -Apache Geronimo is a new effort coordinated by the Apache Software Foundation to 
make a J2EE compatible container.
  +XMLBeans is an XML Schema-based, XML-Java binding tool with cursor-based access to 
the full XML Infoset integrated with convenient, strongly typed Java classes.
   
   
   
  -http://xml.apache.org/xmlbeans/";>XMLBeans
  +http://jakarta.apache.org/pluto/";>Pluto
   
   
  -XMLBeans is an XML Schema-based, XML-Java binding tool with cursor-based access to 
the full XML Infoset integrated with convenient, strongly typed Java classes.
  +Pluto is the Reference Implementation of the Java Portlet Specfication (JSR 
168).
  +
  +
  +
  +http://ws.apache.org/jaxme/";>JaxMe
  +
  +
  +JaxMe 2 is an open source implementation of JAXB, the specification for Jav

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tetsuya 2003/10/02 06:42:14

  Modified:docs index.html
   xdocsindex.xml
  Log:
  Tomcat5 -- Added Tomcat 5 section and pigeonholed
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.316 +16 -4 jakarta-site2/docs/index.html
  
  Index: index.html
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.315
  retrieving revision 1.316
  diff -u -r1.315 -r1.316
  --- index.html2 Oct 2003 09:58:26 -   1.315
  +++ index.html2 Oct 2003 13:42:13 -   1.316
  @@ -592,24 +592,36 @@
   
   
   
  -Tomcat 3
  +Tomcat
   
   
   
   
  -Tomcat 3 is the official Reference Implementation of the Servlet 
2.2 and JavaServer Pages 1.1 technologies.
  +Tomcat 3 is the official 
Reference Implementation of the Servlet 2.2 and JavaServer Pages 1.1 technologies.
   
   
   
   
   
   
  -Tomcat 4
  + 
   
   
   
   
  -Tomcat 4 is the official Reference Implementation of the Servlet 
2.3 and JavaServer Pages 1.2 technologies.
  +Tomcat 4 is the official 
Reference Implementation of the Servlet 2.3 and JavaServer Pages 1.2 technologies.
  +
  +
  +
  +
  +
  +
  + 
  +
  +
  +
  +
  +Tomcat 5 is the official 
Reference Implementation of the Servlet 2.4 and JavaServer Pages 2.0 technologies.
   
   
   
  
  
  
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  Index: index.xml
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.255
  retrieving revision 1.256
  diff -u -r1.255 -r1.256
  --- index.xml 2 Oct 2003 09:58:27 -   1.255
  +++ index.xml 2 Oct 2003 13:42:14 -   1.256
  @@ -197,12 +197,16 @@
   WebDAV aware content management system
   
   
  -Tomcat 3
  -Tomcat 3 is the official Reference Implementation of the Servlet 
2.2 and JavaServer Pages 1.1 technologies.
  +Tomcat
  +Tomcat 3 is the official 
Reference Implementation of the Servlet 2.2 and JavaServer Pages 1.1 technologies.
   
   
  -Tomcat 4
  -Tomcat 4 is the official Reference Implementation of the Servlet 
2.3 and JavaServer Pages 1.2 technologies.
  + 
  +Tomcat 4 is the official 
Reference Implementation of the Servlet 2.3 and JavaServer Pages 1.2 technologies.
  +
  +
  + 
  +Tomcat 5 is the official 
Reference Implementation of the Servlet 2.4 and JavaServer Pages 2.0 technologies.
   
   
   
  
  
  

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tetsuya 2003/09/04 23:38:34

  Modified:docs index.html
   xdocsindex.xml
  Log:
  Apache WebService -> Apache WebServices
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.300 +4 -2  jakarta-site2/docs/index.html
  
  Index: index.html
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.299
  retrieving revision 1.300
  diff -u -r1.299 -r1.300
  --- index.html4 Sep 2003 22:14:57 -   1.299
  +++ index.html5 Sep 2003 06:38:34 -   1.300
  @@ -16,6 +16,8 @@
   
   
   
  +
  +
   
  
   
  @@ -924,7 +926,7 @@
   
   
   
  -http://ws.apache.org/";>Apache WebService Project
  +http://ws.apache.org/";>Apache WebServices Project
   
   
   
  @@ -937,7 +939,7 @@
   
   
   
  -Apache WebService (WS) Project is a collaborative software 
development project dedicated to providing robust, full-featured, commercial-quality, 
and freely available Web Services support on a wide variety of platforms.
  +Apache WebServices (WS) Project is a collaborative software 
development project dedicated to providing robust, full-featured, commercial-quality, 
and freely available Web Services support on a wide variety of platforms.
   
   
   
  
  
  
  1.244 +3 -2  jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml
  
  Index: index.xml
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.243
  retrieving revision 1.244
  diff -u -r1.243 -r1.244
  --- index.xml 4 Sep 2003 22:04:52 -   1.243
  +++ index.xml 5 Sep 2003 06:38:34 -   1.244
  @@ -4,6 +4,7 @@
 
   Jon S. Stevens
   Ted Husted
  +Tetsuya Kitahata
   The Jakarta Project -- Java Related Products
 
   
  @@ -331,12 +332,12 @@
   
   
   
  -http://ws.apache.org/";>Apache WebService Project
  +http://ws.apache.org/";>Apache WebServices Project
   
   
   
   
  -Apache WebService (WS) Project is a collaborative software 
development project dedicated to providing robust, full-featured, commercial-quality, 
and freely available Web Services support on a wide variety of platforms.
  +Apache WebServices (WS) Project is a collaborative software 
development project dedicated to providing robust, full-featured, commercial-quality, 
and freely available Web Services support on a wide variety of platforms.
   
   
   
  
  
  

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tetsuya 2003/07/16 02:34:52

  Modified:docs index.html
   xdocsindex.xml
  Log:
  Deleted Older News in "Headlines" section
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.272 +0 -4  jakarta-site2/docs/index.html
  
  Index: index.html
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.271
  retrieving revision 1.272
  diff -u -r1.271 -r1.272
  --- index.html16 Jul 2003 09:31:58 -  1.271
  +++ index.html16 Jul 2003 09:34:52 -  1.272
  @@ -233,7 +233,6 @@
   29 June 2003 -  Struts 
1.1 Released
   25 June 2003 -  Commons 
FileUpload 1.0 Released
   20 June 2003 -  Commons 
EL 1.0 Released
  -02 June 2003 -  Tapestry 
3.0-beta-1 Released
   
   Other news from Jakarta 
   and Elsewhere
  @@ -243,9 +242,6 @@
   09 July 2003 - 
Apache HTTPD WebServer 2.0.47 Released
   08 July 2003 - Jakarta 
Newsletter Issue 9 Released
   02 July 2003 - Jakarta 
Commons featured in OnJava article, open source conference and (forthcoming) 
book
  -25 June 2003 - 
  -Ant and XercesJ win 2003 JavaWorld Awards 

  -24 June 2003 - SOAP 
Version 1.2 Recommendation Issued by W3C
   
   
   
  
  
  
  1.219 +0 -4  jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml
  
  Index: index.xml
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.218
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  diff -u -r1.218 -r1.219
  --- index.xml 16 Jul 2003 09:31:58 -  1.218
  +++ index.xml 16 Jul 2003 09:34:52 -  1.219
  @@ -58,7 +58,6 @@
   29 June 2003 -  Struts 
1.1 Released
   25 June 2003 -  Commons 
FileUpload 1.0 Released
   20 June 2003 -  Commons 
EL 1.0 Released
  -02 June 2003 -  Tapestry 
3.0-beta-1 Released
   
   Other news from Jakarta 
   and Elsewhere
  @@ -68,9 +67,6 @@
   09 July 2003 - 
Apache HTTPD WebServer 2.0.47 Released
   08 July 2003 - Jakarta 
Newsletter Issue 9 Released
   02 July 2003 - Jakarta 
Commons featured in OnJava article, open source conference and (forthcoming) 
book
  -25 June 2003 - 
  -Ant and XercesJ win 2003 JavaWorld Awards 

  -24 June 2003 - SOAP 
Version 1.2 Recommendation Issued by W3C
   
   
   
  
  
  

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hlship  2003/07/15 10:37:58

  Modified:docs/site binindex.html sourceindex.html news.html
   docs index.html
   xdocs/site sourceindex.xml binindex.xml news.xml
   xdocsindex.xml
  Log:
  Add Tapestry 3.0-beta-2 release announcement.
  
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  Index: binindex.html
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/site/binindex.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.311
  retrieving revision 1.312
  diff -u -r1.311 -r1.312
  --- binindex.html 15 Jul 2003 08:31:42 -  1.311
  +++ binindex.html 15 Jul 2003 17:37:44 -  1.312
  @@ -274,7 +274,7 @@
 Regexp 1.2
 Struts 1.1
 Taglibs
  -  Tapestry 
3.0-beta-1a
  +  Tapestry 
3.0-beta-2
 Tomcat 
4.1.24
   
   Main 
distribution site
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   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-slide/release/1.0/";>Slide 
1.0.16
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/struts/binaries/";>Struts 
1.1
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/taglibs/";>Taglibs
  -http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/tapestry/";>Tapestry 
3.0-beta-1a
  +http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/tapestry/";>Tapestry 
3.0-beta-2
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat/release/v3.2.4/bin/";>Tomcat 
3.2.4
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat/release/v3.3.1a/bin/";>Tomcat 
3.3.1a
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/release/v4.0.6/";>Tomcat 
4.0.6
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   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/commons/httpclient/binary/";>Commons 
HttpClient 2.0 Beta 2
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-jmeter/unstable/v1.9/";>JMeter 
1.9
   http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-poi/dev/bin/";>POI 1.10-dev 
(early 2.0 development build)
  -http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/tapestry/binaries/3.0-beta-1a/";>Tapestry 
3.0-beta-1a
  +http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/tapestry/binaries/3.0-beta-2/";>Tapestry 
3.0-beta-2
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat/release/v5.0.4-alpha/";>Tomcat 
5.0.4 Alpha
   
   
  
  
  
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  Index: sourceindex.html
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/site/sourceindex.html,v
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  diff -u -r1.220 -r1.221
  --- sourceindex.html  14 Jul 2003 23:10:44 -  1.220
  +++ sourceindex.html  15 Jul 2003 17:37:45 -  1.221
  @@ -273,7 +273,7 @@
 Log4j 1.2.8
 ORO 2.0.7
 Struts 1.1
  -  Tapestry 
3.0-beta-1a  
  +  Tapestry 
3.0-beta-2  
 Tomcat 4.1.24
   
   Main 
distribution site
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   http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-poi/release/src/";>POI 
1.5.1-FINAL (production release)
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/struts/source/";>Struts 1.1
  -http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/tapestry/";>Tapestry 
3.0-beta-1a
  +http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/tapestry/";>Tapestry 
3.0-beta-2
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/tomcat/release/v3.2.4/src/";>Tomcat 
3.2.4
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/tomcat/release/v3.3.1a/src/";>Tomcat 
3.3.1a
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/release/v4.0.6/src/";>Tomcat
 4.0.6
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   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/commons/httpclient/source/";>Commons 
HttpClient 2.0 Beta 2
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-jmeter/unstable/v1.9/";>JMeter 
1.9
   http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-poi/dev/src/";>POI 1.8-dev 
(early development build)
  -http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/tapestry/source/3.0-beta-1a/";>Tapestry 
3.0-beta-1a
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3.0-beta-2
   
   
 
  
  
  
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  Index: news.html
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  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/site/news.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.337
  retrieving revision 1.338
  diff -u -r1.337 -r1.338
  --- news.html 15 Jul 2003 11:22:13 -  1.337
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  +15 July 2003 - Jakarta Tapestry 3.0-beta-2 Released 
  +
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  +http://jakarta.apache.org/tapestry/";>Tapestry release 3.0-beta-2 is 
now available.  This release fixes a number of
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[tetsuya]

tetsuya 2003/06/27 00:16:13

  Modified:docs index.html
   xdocsindex.xml
  Log:
  Fixed miscs. : "Jakarta-Gump" explanations etc.
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
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  Index: index.html
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.258
  retrieving revision 1.259
  diff -u -r1.258 -r1.259
  --- index.html27 Jun 2003 07:02:32 -  1.258
  +++ index.html27 Jun 2003 07:16:12 -  1.259
  @@ -224,9 +224,7 @@
   25 June 2003 -  Commons 
FileUpload 1.0 Released
   20 June 2003 -  Commons 
EL 1.0 Released
   09 June 2003 -  Struts 
1.1 Release Candidate 2 Released
  -03 June 2003 -  Commons 
FileUpload 1.0 Release Candidate 1 Released
   02 June 2003 -  Tapestry 
3.0-beta-1 Released
  -29 May 2003 -  
Announcing Jakarta Tapestry
   25 May 2003 -  Commons 
HttpClient 2.0 Beta 1 Released
   
   Other news from Jakarta 
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  -Gump is a tool for http://www.martinfowler.com/articles/continuousIntegration.html";>Continuous 
Integration.  It builds all of Jakarta and http://xml.apache.org";>XML 
against the HEAD in CVS, http://cvs.apache.org/builds/gump/latest/";>nightly.  While Gump is 
considered a "Proposal", it has been an essential part of Jakarta's infrastructure for 
some time so it's not worth splitting hairs over.
  +Gump is a tool for http://www.martinfowler.com/articles/continuousIntegration.html";>Continuous 
Integration.  It builds all of Jakarta and other products in Jakarta Related Projects against the HEAD in CVS, http://cvs.apache.org/builds/gump/latest/";>nightly.
   
   
   
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   Apache Incubator Project
   Apache James Project
   Apache Maven Project
  -Apache XML Project
  +Apache XML Project
   
   
   
  
  
  
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  Index: index.xml
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.205
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  diff -u -r1.205 -r1.206
  --- index.xml 27 Jun 2003 07:02:33 -  1.205
  +++ index.xml 27 Jun 2003 07:16:13 -  1.206
  @@ -49,9 +49,7 @@
   25 June 2003 -  Commons 
FileUpload 1.0 Released
   20 June 2003 -  Commons 
EL 1.0 Released
   09 June 2003 -  Struts 
1.1 Release Candidate 2 Released
  -03 June 2003 -  Commons 
FileUpload 1.0 Release Candidate 1 Released
   02 June 2003 -  Tapestry 
3.0-beta-1 Released
  -29 May 2003 -  
Announcing Jakarta Tapestry
   25 May 2003 -  Commons 
HttpClient 2.0 Beta 1 Released
   
   Other news from Jakarta 
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   Gump
  -Gump is a tool for http://www.martinfowler.com/articles/continuousIntegration.html";>Continuous 
Integration.  It builds all of Jakarta and http://xml.apache.org";>XML 
against the HEAD in CVS, http://cvs.apache.org/builds/gump/latest/";>nightly.  While Gump is 
considered a "Proposal", it has been an essential part of Jakarta's infrastructure for 
some time so it's not worth splitting hairs over.
  +Gump is a tool for http://www.martinfowler.com/articles/continuousIntegration.html";>Continuous 
Integration.  It builds all of Jakarta and other products in Jakarta Related Projects against the HEAD in CVS, http://cvs.apache.org/builds/gump/latest/";>nightly.
   
   
   Lucene
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   Apache Incubator Project
   Apache James Project
   Apache Maven Project
  -Apache XML Project
  +Apache XML Project
   
   
   
  
  
  

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tetsuya 2003/06/27 00:02:33

  Modified:docs index.html
   xdocsindex.xml
  Log:
  Added 'Apache XML Project' to "Jakarta Related Projects" section, etc.
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
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  Index: index.html
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.257
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  diff -u -r1.257 -r1.258
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   Jakarta Product 
news
   
  -25 June 2003 -  
FileUpload 1.0 Released
  +25 June 2003 -  Commons 
FileUpload 1.0 Released
   20 June 2003 -  Commons 
EL 1.0 Released
   09 June 2003 -  Struts 
1.1 Release Candidate 2 Released
  -03 June 2003 -  
FileUpload 1.0 Release Candidate 1 Released
  +03 June 2003 -  Commons 
FileUpload 1.0 Release Candidate 1 Released
   02 June 2003 -  Tapestry 
3.0-beta-1 Released
   29 May 2003 -  
Announcing Jakarta Tapestry
  -25 May 2003 -  
HttpClient 2.0 Beta 1 Released
  +25 May 2003 -  Commons 
HttpClient 2.0 Beta 1 Released
   
   Other news from Jakarta 
   and Elsewhere
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   featured on IBM developerWorks 
   03 June 2003 - Jakarta 
Lucene and Commons Digester
   featured on IBM developerWorks 
  - 28 May 2003 - Apache 
2.0.46 Released
  + 28 May 2003 - Apache 
HTTPD 2.0.46 Released
   22 May 2003 - Jakarta 
Newsletter Issue 8 Released
   
   
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   Apache Incubator Project
   Apache James Project
   Apache Maven Project
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   Maven is a Java project management and project comprehension tool. 
Maven is based on the concept of a project object model (POM) in that all the 
artifacts produced by Maven are a result of consulting a well defined model for your 
project.
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Apache projects. Apache XML Project currently consists of Xerces, Xalan, FOP, Forrest, 
Xindice, etc.
   
   
   
  
  
  
  1.205 +14 -4 jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml
  
  Index: index.xml
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.204
  retrieving revision 1.205
  diff -u -r1.204 -r1.205
  --- index.xml 26 Jun 2003 07:05:33 -  1.204
  +++ index.xml 27 Jun 2003 07:02:33 -  1.205
  @@ -46,13 +46,13 @@
   
   Jakarta Product news
   
  -25 June 2003 -  
FileUpload 1.0 Released
  +25 June 2003 -  Commons 
FileUpload 1.0 Released
   20 June 2003 -  Commons 
EL 1.0 Released
   09 June 2003 -  Struts 
1.1 Release Candidate 2 Released
  -03 June 2003 -  
FileUpload 1.0 Release Candidate 1 Released
  +03 June 2003 -  Commons 
FileUpload 1.0 Release Candidate 1 Released
   02 June 2003 -  Tapestry 
3.0-beta-1 Released
   29 May 2003 -  
Announcing Jakarta Tapestry
  -25 May 2003 -  
HttpClient 2.0 Beta 1 Released
  +25 May 2003 -  Commons 
HttpClient 2.0 Beta 1 Released
   
   Other news from Jakarta 
   and Elsewhere
  @@ -63,7 +63,7 @@
   featured on IBM developerWorks 
   03 June 2003 - Jakarta 
Lucene and Commons Digester
   featured on IBM developerWorks 
  - 28 May 2003 - Apache 
2.0.46 Released
  + 28 May 2003 - Apache 
HTTPD 2.0.46 Released
   22 May 2003 - Jakarta 
Newsletter Issue 8 Released
   
   
  @@ -217,6 +217,7 @@
   Apache Incubator Project
   Apache James Project
   Apache Maven Project
  +Apache XML Project
   
   
   
  @@ -290,6 +291,15 @@
   http://ma

cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml

[danny]

danny   2003/06/12 04:26:20

  Modified:docs/site elsewhere.html
   xdocs/site elsewhere.xml
   docs index.html
   xdocsindex.xml
  Log:
  "Elsewhere" news item. Articles on James published on IBM develoeprWorks.
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.48  +15 -2 jakarta-site2/docs/site/elsewhere.html
  
  Index: elsewhere.html
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/site/elsewhere.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.47
  retrieving revision 1.48
  diff -u -r1.47 -r1.48
  --- elsewhere.html8 Jun 2003 04:05:09 -   1.47
  +++ elsewhere.html12 Jun 2003 11:26:19 -  1.48
  @@ -178,7 +178,18 @@
 
 
   
  -
  +
  +12 June 2003 - James featured on IBM developerWorks
  +
  +
  +Claude Duguay has written two excellent articles on http://james.apache.org/";>James for
  +http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/";>IBM developerWorks
  +[http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-james1.html";>article1]
  +An introduction to Apache's James enterprise e-mail server.
  +[http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-james2.html";>article2]
  +Build e-mail based applications with Matchers and Mailets.
  +
  +
   28 May 2003 - Apache 2.0.46 released
   
  The Apache Software Foundation and the Apache HTTP Server Project are
  @@ -207,7 +218,9 @@
   
   See http://james.apache.org/changelog.html";>changelog for more details.
   
  -Download James in http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.cgi";>binary or http://jakarta.apache.org/site/sourceindex.cgi";>source form.
  +Download James in 
  +http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.cgi";>binary or
  +http://jakarta.apache.org/site/sourceindex.cgi";>source form.
   
   
   5 May 2003 - Scarab 1.0 Beta 14 Released By Tigris.org
  
  
  
  1.23  +17 -3 jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/elsewhere.xml
  
  Index: elsewhere.xml
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/site/elsewhere.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.22
  retrieving revision 1.23
  diff -u -r1.22 -r1.23
  --- elsewhere.xml 6 Jun 2003 03:45:32 -   1.22
  +++ elsewhere.xml 12 Jun 2003 11:26:20 -  1.23
  @@ -10,6 +10,20 @@
   
   
   
  +
  +
  +12 June 2003 - James featured on IBM developerWorks
  +
  +
  +Claude Duguay has written two excellent articles on http://james.apache.org/";>James for
  +http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/";>IBM developerWorks
  +[http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-james1.html";>article1]
  +An introduction to Apache's James enterprise e-mail server.
  +[http://www-106.ibm.com/developerworks/java/library/j-james2.html";>article2]
  +Build e-mail based applications with Matchers and Mailets.
  +
  +
  +
   
   28 May 2003 - Apache 2.0.46 released
   
  @@ -40,9 +54,9 @@
   
   See changelog for more details.
   
  -Download James in http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.cgi";>binary or http://jakarta.apache.org/site/sourceindex.cgi";>source form.
  +Download James in 
  +http://jakarta.apache.org/site/binindex.cgi";>binary or
  +http://jakarta.apache.org/site/sourceindex.cgi";>source form.
   
   
   
  
  
  
  1.252 +5 -5  jakarta-site2/docs/index.html
  
  Index: index.html
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.251
  retrieving revision 1.252
  diff -u -r1.251 -r1.252
  --- index.html9 Jun 2003 19:13:01 -   1.251
  +++ index.html12 Jun 2003 11:26:20 -  1.252
  @@ -226,18 +226,18 @@
   02 June 2003 -  Tapestry 
3.0-beta-1 Released
   29 May 2003 -  
Announcing Jakarta Tapestry
   25 May 2003 -  
HttpClient 2.0 Beta 1 Released
  -11 May 2003 -  Commons 
Codec 1.1 Released
   
   Other news from Jakarta 
   and Elsewhere
   
  -28 May 2003 - 
Apache 2.0.46 Released
  +12 June 2003 - 
James
  +featured on IBM developerWorks 
  + 28 May 2003 - Apache 
2.0.46 Released
   22 May 2003 - Jakarta 
Newsletter Issue 8 Released
   12 May 2003 - James 
2.1.3 released.
  -5 May 2003 - Scarab 
1.0 Beta 14 Released By 
  +5 May 2003 

cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml

[tetsuya]

tetsuya 2003/06/08 02:38:36

  Modified:docs index.html
   xdocsindex.xml
  Log:
  Fixed the link to "Products", "Related Projects" section etc. on the top
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.250 +23 -27jakarta-site2/docs/index.html
  
  Index: index.html
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.249
  retrieving revision 1.250
  diff -u -r1.249 -r1.250
  --- index.html8 Jun 2003 04:05:07 -   1.249
  +++ index.html8 Jun 2003 09:38:35 -   1.250
  @@ -20,7 +20,7 @@
  
   
   
  -The Jakarta Site - The Jakarta Project
  +The Jakarta Site - The Jakarta Project -- Java(TM) Related 
Products
   
   
   
  @@ -183,7 +183,7 @@
   Java platform for distribution to the public at no charge. Jakarta products 
are
   developed by and distributed through various subprojects, which are listed under
   Products in the menu on the left, some other Apache Java projects which may 
be of interest are listed in Related,
  -and all are summarised in the section below.
  +and all are summarised in the Products section and Related Projects section below.
   Each Jakarta subproject has its own team of developers and committers, and its
   own mailing list.
   Related projects have their own project management, developers, committers, 
their own websites and mailing lists.
  @@ -307,9 +307,7 @@
   
   
   
  -
  -Commons
  -
  +Commons
   
   
   
  @@ -321,9 +319,7 @@
   
   
   
  -
  -ECS
  -
  +ECS
   
   
   
  @@ -335,7 +331,7 @@
   
   
   
  -JMeter:
  +JMeter
   
   
   
  @@ -347,7 +343,7 @@
   
   
   
  -Log4j:
  +Log4j
   
   
   
  @@ -359,7 +355,7 @@
   
   
   
  -ORO:
  +ORO
   
   
   
  @@ -371,7 +367,7 @@
   
   
   
  -POI:
  +POI
   
   
   
  @@ -383,7 +379,7 @@
   
   
   
  -Regexp:
  +Regexp
   
   
   
  @@ -395,7 +391,7 @@
   
   
   
  -Taglibs:
  +Taglibs
   
   
   
  @@ -407,7 +403,7 @@
   
   
   
  -Watchdog:
  +Watchdog
   
   
   
  @@ -431,7 +427,7 @@
   
   
   
  -Cactus:
  +Cactus
   
   
   
  @@ -443,7 +439,7 @@
   
   
   
  -Gump:
  +Gump
   
   
   
  @@ -455,7 +451,7 @@
   
   
   
  -Lucene:
  +Lucene
   
   
   
  @@ -467,7 +463,7 @@
   
   
   
  -Struts:
  +Struts
   
   
   
  @@ -479,7 +475,7 @@
   
   
   
  -Tapestry:
  +Tapestry
   
   
   
  @@ -491,7 +487,7 @@
   
   
   
  -Turbine:
  +Turbine
   
   
   
  @@ -506,7 +502,7 @@
   
   
   
  -Velocity:
  +Velocity
   
   
   
  @@ -535,7 +531,7 @@
   
   
   
  -Alexandria:
  +Alexandria
   
   
   

cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml

[hlship]

hlship  2003/06/02 10:47:11

  Modified:docs/site binindex.html sourceindex.html news.html
   docs index.html
   xdocs/site sourceindex.xml binindex.xml news.xml
   xdocsindex.xml
  Log:
  Add Tapestry 3.0-beta-1 release notice, and Tapestry mirror links.
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.294 +3 -0  jakarta-site2/docs/site/binindex.html
  
  Index: binindex.html
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/site/binindex.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.293
  retrieving revision 1.294
  diff -u -r1.293 -r1.294
  --- binindex.html 30 May 2003 06:04:26 -  1.293
  +++ binindex.html 2 Jun 2003 17:47:10 -   1.294
  @@ -267,6 +267,7 @@
 Regexp 1.2
 Struts 1.1 Release 
Candidate 1
 Taglibs
  +  Tapestry 
3.0-beta-1
 Tomcat 
4.1.24
   
   Main 
distribution site
  @@ -305,6 +306,7 @@
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-slide/release/1.0/";>Slide 
1.0.16
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-struts/release/v1.0.2/";>Struts 
1.0.2
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/taglibs/";>Taglibs
  +http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/tapestry/";>Tapestry 
3.0-beta-1
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat/release/v3.2.4/bin/";>Tomcat 
3.2.4
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat/release/v3.3.1a/bin/";>Tomcat 
3.3.1a
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/release/v4.0.6/";>Tomcat 
4.0.6
  @@ -331,6 +333,7 @@
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-jmeter/unstable/v1.7.2/";>JMeter 
1.7.2
   http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-poi/dev/bin/";>POI 1.10-dev 
(early 2.0 development build)
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/struts/binaries/";>Struts 1.1 
Release Candidate 1
  +http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/tapestry/binaries/3.0-beta-1/";>Tapestry 
3.0-beta-1
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat/release/v5.0.2-alpha/";>Tomcat 
5.0.2 Alpha
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-velocity/release/v1.3/";>Velocity 
1.3-rc1
   
  
  
  
  1.206 +3 -0  jakarta-site2/docs/site/sourceindex.html
  
  Index: sourceindex.html
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/site/sourceindex.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.205
  retrieving revision 1.206
  diff -u -r1.205 -r1.206
  --- sourceindex.html  30 May 2003 06:04:27 -  1.205
  +++ sourceindex.html  2 Jun 2003 17:47:10 -   1.206
  @@ -266,6 +266,7 @@
 Log4j 1.2.8
 ORO 2.0.7
 Struts 1.1 Release 
Candidate 1
  +  Tapestry 
3.0-beta-1  
 Tomcat 4.1.24
   
   Main 
distribution site
  @@ -299,6 +300,7 @@
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/oro/";>ORO 2.0.7
   http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-poi/release/src/";>POI 
1.5.1-FINAL (production release)
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-struts/release/v1.0.2/src/";>Struts 
1.0.2
  +http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/tapestry/";>Tapestry 
3.0-beta-1
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/tomcat/release/v3.2.4/src/";>Tomcat 
3.2.4
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/tomcat/release/v3.3.1a/src/";>Tomcat 
3.3.1a
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-tomcat-4.0/release/v4.0.6/src/";>Tomcat
 4.0.6
  @@ -323,6 +325,7 @@
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/jakarta-jmeter/unstable/v1.7.2/";>JMeter 
1.7.2
   http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-poi/dev/src/";>POI 1.8-dev 
(early development build)
   http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/struts/source/";>Struts 1.1 Release 
Candidate 1
  +http://www.apache.org/dist/jakarta/tapestry/source/3.0-beta-1/";>Tapestry 
3.0-beta-1
   
   
 
  
  
  
  1.319 +21 -1 jakarta-site2/docs/site/news.html
  
  Index: news.html
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/site/news.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.318
  retrieving revision 1.319
  diff -u -r1.318 -r1.319
  --- news.html 30 May 2003 06:04:27 -  1.318
  +++ news.html 2 Jun 2003 17:47:10 -   1.319
  @@ -174,7 +174,27 @@
 
 
   
  -
  +
  +02 Jun 2003 - Tapestry 3.0-beta-1 Released  
  +
  +
  +This release of the Tapestry web application framework adds a host of new bugs 
fixes and features.
  +Anb initial, rough pass at building using http://maven.apache.org";>Maven
  +is included.
  +3.0-beta-1 is feature complete (with some minor exceptions related to the IMonitor 
interface, and
  +the shifting dependency on 
  +http://jakarta.apache.org/commons/fileupload/index.html";>FileUpload).
  +Future work on 3.0

Re: [ANN] Apache's Position on the JSPA (was: Re: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml])

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> on 1/30/02 4:15 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
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> > My only issue and I guess this is directed more at you Jon, is it
> > doesn't give me a clear idea about "what we want".  Can you give me a
> > good idea and I'll be glad to submit a patch to that effect.  It just
> > seems like we should be asking for something and being specific.
> > 
> > -Andy
> 
> Here is "what we want":
> 
> 
> 
> Kudo's to Jason Hunter for writing it.


I read it last night from CVS.

I just wanted to say that I am really proud and excited to see Apache stand up
for something!

Lets keep up the good work!  :)

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[Andrew C. Oliver]

That's awesome, I'll check that out!

On Thu, 2002-01-31 at 13:11, Scott Sanders wrote:
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:58 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: Re: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]
> > 
> > 
> > On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 19:54, Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
> > > on 2002.1.30 4:15 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" 
> > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > > 
> > > > My only issue and I guess this is directed more at you Jon, is it 
> > > > doesn't give me a clear idea about "what we want".  Can 
> > you give me 
> > > > a good idea and I'll be glad to submit a patch to that 
> > effect.  It 
> > > > just seems like we should be asking for something and being 
> > > > specific.
> > > > 
> > > > -Andy
> > > 
> > > That is a very good point. However, privately, Sun knows 
> > exactly what 
> > > we want.
> > > 
> > > There is still some stuff that goes on behind the scenes 
> > around here 
> > > that unfortunately isn't exposed. Needless to say, 
> > discussions about 
> > > opening some of that up (including posting what we want to 
> > the public 
> > > site) are going on now.
> > > 
> > 
> > For starters:
> > I think the J2EE stuff should be under at least the same 
> > license as the rest of the JDK.
> > 
> > Personally I'm having a hard time getting particularly in 
> > uproar as I think the central core of J2EE - Enterprise Java 
> > Beans is such a poor standard, that I'm not particularly 
> > upset that its not *free*.  I should not say these things 
> > publicly, as I still have to work in these things, but in 
> > truth EJB and particularly Entity beans is a less that 
> > elegant kludge.  
> > 
> > In truth J2EE is kind of a scam.  It claims to be aiming for 
> > compatibility and universality but the truth is the vendors 
> > play too big of a role in it.  They want to have lots of room 
> > for proprietary extensions.  Its market one thing but 
> > actually sell another.
> > 
> > I'd rather see someone come up with an opensource standard 
> > that achieves the goals of EJBs without being limited by its 
> > faulty design and backward compatibility with its original 
> > faultier design.  Just my humble opinion on that.
> 
> Check out AJB in Avalon.
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=avalon-apps-dev&m=101158982807771&w=2
> 
> Uses AltRMI from the Commons to achieve RMI with extending Remote or
> throwing remote exception.  Now you can publish any class/interface
> remotely...
> 
> Cheers,
> Scott
> 
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[Daniel Rall]

Tim, BRAVO.

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[Scott Sanders]

> -Original Message-
> From: Andrew C. Oliver [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 5:58 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Re: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 19:54, Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
> > on 2002.1.30 4:15 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" 
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> > 
> > > My only issue and I guess this is directed more at you Jon, is it 
> > > doesn't give me a clear idea about "what we want".  Can 
> you give me 
> > > a good idea and I'll be glad to submit a patch to that 
> effect.  It 
> > > just seems like we should be asking for something and being 
> > > specific.
> > > 
> > > -Andy
> > 
> > That is a very good point. However, privately, Sun knows 
> exactly what 
> > we want.
> > 
> > There is still some stuff that goes on behind the scenes 
> around here 
> > that unfortunately isn't exposed. Needless to say, 
> discussions about 
> > opening some of that up (including posting what we want to 
> the public 
> > site) are going on now.
> > 
> 
> For starters:
> I think the J2EE stuff should be under at least the same 
> license as the rest of the JDK.
> 
> Personally I'm having a hard time getting particularly in 
> uproar as I think the central core of J2EE - Enterprise Java 
> Beans is such a poor standard, that I'm not particularly 
> upset that its not *free*.  I should not say these things 
> publicly, as I still have to work in these things, but in 
> truth EJB and particularly Entity beans is a less that 
> elegant kludge.  
> 
> In truth J2EE is kind of a scam.  It claims to be aiming for 
> compatibility and universality but the truth is the vendors 
> play too big of a role in it.  They want to have lots of room 
> for proprietary extensions.  Its market one thing but 
> actually sell another.
> 
> I'd rather see someone come up with an opensource standard 
> that achieves the goals of EJBs without being limited by its 
> faulty design and backward compatibility with its original 
> faultier design.  Just my humble opinion on that.

Check out AJB in Avalon.
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RE: J2EE considered harmful (was [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml])

[Steve Downey]

> I have implemented a system using Container Managed EntityBeans that 
> worked fairly well. I used Jonas (it was some time ago). It 
> was smaller 
> than the original poster example (about 20 entity classes, tens of 
> thousands of instances). I spent a lot of time getting the 
> entity design 
> right. From the original description, it looks like the 
> problems in the 
> quoted project came from bad system design, more than from EJB 
> technology as such.
> 
> Comments on my experience:
> 
> - The location and engine independence was a true marvel. I was 
> developing with postgres/linux and deploying under 
> MSSQLServer/NT with 
> the same source code. Only small diffs in configuration needed.
> - Performance was not good, but scalability was.
> - Leaving transaction and persistence management to the 
> container proved 
> good at the end.
> - My main issue in the development were related with using 
> JSP for the 
> interface (JSP sucks (c) Jon :) )
> 
> So, while I agree with political/licensing issues being of concern, I 
> would not disqualify EJB as a whole from a technological 
> point of view. 
> YMMV.
> 

My experience with Distributed Object Systems goes back to early CORBA and
DCOM. I've seen about as many failures in just about every distributed
system, regardless of technology flavour. EJB is just the latest, and as
seems usual in our industry, lots of people are coming in, treating it as
green field development, and are making the same mistakes.

Mostly, they ignore that the choice of making a system distributed is
fundamental. You can not take an Object Model and arbitrarily cleave it and
produce a good Distributed Object Model. The worst case of this I ever saw
was a system that had String as a CORBA object. 

EJB also brings to the table all of the problems of the Object/Relational
impedance mismatch. It's an empirical fact at this point that rows in a
table are bad objects. They're data, and have no behavior. Turning them into
objects with container managed persistence doesn't make them good objects.
Objects are composed out of many rows spanning several tables. That's hard
to do with CMP.

Just my $0.02.

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Re: J2EE considered harmful (was [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml])

[Santiago Gala]

Andrew C. Oliver wrote:

>To be fair, WebSphere is probably more troublesome then the other
>containers (at least thats been my experience with it).  I do think 
>there is a time and place for RPC.  I however think better support for
>location independence is required. 
>
(snip)

>
>I would suggest gaining experience with other containers (BEA and jBoss
>for starters, you can download a trial of the former and the latter is
>opensource) so that you can discriminate the problems that are exist in
>WebSphere from those in EJBs as a whole.  Not because you want to just
>do "not-ejb" but so that you don't repeat the same mistakes.
>
I have implemented a system using Container Managed EntityBeans that 
worked fairly well. I used Jonas (it was some time ago). It was smaller 
than the original poster example (about 20 entity classes, tens of 
thousands of instances). I spent a lot of time getting the entity design 
right. From the original description, it looks like the problems in the 
quoted project came from bad system design, more than from EJB 
technology as such.

Comments on my experience:

- The location and engine independence was a true marvel. I was 
developing with postgres/linux and deploying under MSSQLServer/NT with 
the same source code. Only small diffs in configuration needed.
- Performance was not good, but scalability was.
- Leaving transaction and persistence management to the container proved 
good at the end.
- My main issue in the development were related with using JSP for the 
interface (JSP sucks (c) Jon :) )

So, while I agree with political/licensing issues being of concern, I 
would not disqualify EJB as a whole from a technological point of view. 
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Re: J2EE considered harmful (was [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml])

[Tim Hyde]

I've been lurking on this list for several years, and not speaking about
things I'm not contributing to.

But Andy's comment here about EJB & J2EE goes right to the point, and
triggers my passion ...

As an architect, I've been in 5 projects in the last 2.5 years where EJBs
were on the table, and in every case but one there have been overwhelming
reasons to avoid getting involved with that kind of technology. And in the
remaining case, it was already live when I came on board but thankfully the
designer had not used Entity Beans, which made it almost tolerable.

In the last project (a major customer-care callcenter app), they had used
Entity Beans, and Websphere, and there were 500 EJBs, and 4700 distinct
application classes. It took 2 days of continuous processing just to
'deploy' the beans, and I was called in when they found they couldn't meet
adequate performance. Related, of course to the modelling of the database
through Entity Beans. I won't go into the details, but believe me there were
big problems in just about every area I looked at, not least developer
productivity with the toolsets.

My advice was unreservedly to junk both EJB and Websphere, since any
competent designer could implement a solution with about a tenth of the
complexity involved, and with no need for these opaque tools that you can't
control.

Yes, EJB is a complete bodge of a design, and RPC invocation techniques
would only be acceptable if they were completely transparent, instead of
requiring you to do so much plumbing yourself. But personally, I think RPC
is entirely overrated, and it is a mistake to try to program as though a
remote call had the same characteristics as a local one.

The Pointy Haired Management are influenced by other views of the
marketplace, of course, but they don't really make any sense if you can see
where technology like this is likely to end up in the longer term. (i.e.
replaced by something better).

The rest of J2EE ? Well, Servlets is great, JSP is just about OK, (but of
course you really wanted a templating engine). And among the rest of the
APIs, there seem to be some that are OK, but an awful lot of it is pretty
mediocre. Overall, it is Java *not* living up to its early promise.

In summary, after a couple of years wondering 'Why am I the only person to
see this ?' it's a relief to see Andy's post.

I also remember seeing Jon's comment 'WAKE UP PEOPLE' a few weeks back
(before Outlook trashed my mailbase) and though I think he is commenting on
Sun's military strategy rather than the technicalities of EJB (am I right
there ?) I do think that we need a much more public protest about the
weakness of the technologies on offer - too many companies are forcing
developers down the J2EE path. DotNet doesn't have to be the winner from
such a protest, either.

There are much better ways to do things, and at present customised solutions
win hands-down on every count except 'common culture'.

I know this is not much Jakarta related (unless Jakarta can take on J2EE
directly ?), but it does seem a very important issue in the context of
server-side Java.

How much support exists for this point of view ? Does anyone have pointers
for areas where rational discontent is brewing in a less 'humble' form ?

- Tim

- Original Message -----
From: Andrew C. Oliver <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: 31 January 2002 01:58
Subject: Re: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]


>
> On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 19:54, Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
> > on 2002.1.30 4:15 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> >
> > > My only issue and I guess this is directed more at you Jon, is it
> > > doesn't give me a clear idea about "what we want".  Can you give me a
> > > good idea and I'll be glad to submit a patch to that effect.  It just
> > > seems like we should be asking for something and being specific.
> > >
> > > -Andy
> >
> > That is a very good point. However, privately, Sun knows exactly what we
> > want.
> >
> > There is still some stuff that goes on behind the scenes around here
that
> > unfortunately isn't exposed. Needless to say, discussions about opening
some
> > of that up (including posting what we want to the public site) are going
on
> > now.
> >
>
> For starters:
> I think the J2EE stuff should be under at least the same license as the
> rest of the JDK.
>
> Personally I'm having a hard time getting particularly in uproar as I
> think the central core of J2EE - Enterprise Java Beans is such a poor
> standard, that I'm not particularly upset that its not *free*.  I should
> not say these things publicly, as I still have to work in these things,
> bu

Re: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]

[Andrew C. Oliver]

On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 21:46, Peter Donald wrote:
> On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:58, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> > For starters:
> > I think the J2EE stuff should be under at least the same license as the
> > rest of the JDK.
> 
> I think it is - or at least it used to be? The J2EE trademark is protected as 
> much as the Java trademark is - in some ways less in some ways more.  Ask Sun 
> whether you can have an opensource java impl and they will say "no because we 
> haven't revealed it all". The differenceis that J2EE also has significantly 
> more IP tied up in it that would possibly make it a difficult proposition to 
> cleanly rewrite - though this is the same with some parts of core java 
> classes (ie RMI and friends).
> 

>From my understanding you cannot distribute the j2ee jars and
technologies.  There also seems to be a strange clause that I admittedly
do not understand regarding development of technologies based on. 
Compatibility tests are one thing.  I could give a flip about branding
something as J2EE as it mostly serves to confuse business people.  (Do
you know how to do EJB?  What about J2EE?)  

> > In truth J2EE is kind of a scam.  It claims to be aiming for
> > compatibility and universality but the truth is the vendors play too big
> > of a role in it.  They want to have lots of room for proprietary
> > extensions.  Its market one thing but actually sell another.
> 
> Isn't that the best way to advance technology? Leave room for vendors to play 
> and when the vendors have played with a feature long enough, merge the best 
> ideas together and develope a spec. It was a lot worse in past but with 
> auxilliary APIs/JSRs like deployment and management APIs coming out.
> 

Perhaps, the issue is how far.  Up to now at least, IMHO, they've leaned
more toward "please embrace and extend" and less toward standards based
technologies.  

-Andy

> -- 
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> 
> Pete
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Re: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]

[Peter Donald]

On Thu, 31 Jan 2002 12:58, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> For starters:
> I think the J2EE stuff should be under at least the same license as the
> rest of the JDK.

I think it is - or at least it used to be? The J2EE trademark is protected as 
much as the Java trademark is - in some ways less in some ways more.  Ask Sun 
whether you can have an opensource java impl and they will say "no because we 
haven't revealed it all". The differenceis that J2EE also has significantly 
more IP tied up in it that would possibly make it a difficult proposition to 
cleanly rewrite - though this is the same with some parts of core java 
classes (ie RMI and friends).

> In truth J2EE is kind of a scam.  It claims to be aiming for
> compatibility and universality but the truth is the vendors play too big
> of a role in it.  They want to have lots of room for proprietary
> extensions.  Its market one thing but actually sell another.

Isn't that the best way to advance technology? Leave room for vendors to play 
and when the vendors have played with a feature long enough, merge the best 
ideas together and develope a spec. It was a lot worse in past but with 
auxilliary APIs/JSRs like deployment and management APIs coming out.

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Re: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]

[Andrew C. Oliver]

On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 21:31, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> At 08:58 PM 1/30/2002 -0500, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
> >I'd rather see someone come up with an opensource standard that achieves
> >the goals of EJBs without being limited by its faulty design and
> >backward compatibility with its original faultier design.  Just my
> >humble opinion on that.
> 
> 
> Couldn't agree more. Any ideas on how to make such an Open Source standard 
> a "standard" in a sense that it would be accepted by the IT community as 
> way to do things? Maybe some kind of a Standard Committee under apache and 
> a working reference implementation based on one of the existing projects?
> 

The short answer: "If you build it they will come".  I can help on this
later if someone(s) with an EJB situation (which I don't presently have)
can start the ball rolling.  I'm presently at capacity, but I'd love to
help out with the specs.

-Andy

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Re: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]

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At 08:58 PM 1/30/2002 -0500, Andrew C. Oliver wrote:
>I'd rather see someone come up with an opensource standard that achieves
>the goals of EJBs without being limited by its faulty design and
>backward compatibility with its original faultier design.  Just my
>humble opinion on that.


Couldn't agree more. Any ideas on how to make such an Open Source standard 
a "standard" in a sense that it would be accepted by the IT community as 
way to do things? Maybe some kind of a Standard Committee under apache and 
a working reference implementation based on one of the existing projects?


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Re: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]

[Andrew C. Oliver]

On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 19:54, Jon Scott Stevens wrote:
> on 2002.1.30 4:15 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> > My only issue and I guess this is directed more at you Jon, is it
> > doesn't give me a clear idea about "what we want".  Can you give me a
> > good idea and I'll be glad to submit a patch to that effect.  It just
> > seems like we should be asking for something and being specific.
> > 
> > -Andy
> 
> That is a very good point. However, privately, Sun knows exactly what we
> want.
> 
> There is still some stuff that goes on behind the scenes around here that
> unfortunately isn't exposed. Needless to say, discussions about opening some
> of that up (including posting what we want to the public site) are going on
> now.
> 

For starters:
I think the J2EE stuff should be under at least the same license as the
rest of the JDK.

Personally I'm having a hard time getting particularly in uproar as I
think the central core of J2EE - Enterprise Java Beans is such a poor
standard, that I'm not particularly upset that its not *free*.  I should
not say these things publicly, as I still have to work in these things,
but in truth EJB and particularly Entity beans is a less that elegant
kludge.  

In truth J2EE is kind of a scam.  It claims to be aiming for
compatibility and universality but the truth is the vendors play too big
of a role in it.  They want to have lots of room for proprietary
extensions.  Its market one thing but actually sell another.

I'd rather see someone come up with an opensource standard that achieves
the goals of EJBs without being limited by its faulty design and
backward compatibility with its original faultier design.  Just my
humble opinion on that.

> This is fun.
> 
> p.s. The spec lead for JSR107 had a nice response to my complaints about the
> license issues for that JSR. It went something like this:
> 
> > As for the license, I can find no mention of Oracle requesting any money
> > for anything.  I seriously doubt if this license is significantly
> > different than licenses for JSP's sponsored by other companies.
> 
> Uh. Yea. Whatever dude.
> 

Right.  Why request money now?  I'll have to look at the JSR.  

> -jon
> 
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Re: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]

[Jon Scott Stevens]

on 2002.1.30 4:15 PM, "Andrew C. Oliver" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

> My only issue and I guess this is directed more at you Jon, is it
> doesn't give me a clear idea about "what we want".  Can you give me a
> good idea and I'll be glad to submit a patch to that effect.  It just
> seems like we should be asking for something and being specific.
> 
> -Andy

That is a very good point. However, privately, Sun knows exactly what we
want.

There is still some stuff that goes on behind the scenes around here that
unfortunately isn't exposed. Needless to say, discussions about opening some
of that up (including posting what we want to the public site) are going on
now.

This is fun.

p.s. The spec lead for JSR107 had a nice response to my complaints about the
license issues for that JSR. It went something like this:

> As for the license, I can find no mention of Oracle requesting any money
> for anything.  I seriously doubt if this license is significantly
> different than licenses for JSP's sponsored by other companies.

Uh. Yea. Whatever dude.

-jon


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RE: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]

[Andrew C. Oliver]

I still say we need to say "This is what we want" not just "This is
f*cked up".  I think we should follow similar rules as to writing a
letter of complaint (even if it has a certain Jon/Apache-like flare) 
-Andy

On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 18:01, Scott Sanders wrote:
> +1.  + 1!  Why should Apache be silent if the process in NOT open?  Publicity is 
>what this needs.  C# is more open than the JCP, and that is really, really sad.  If 
>we can't express these opinions, who will?  I am personally glad that jon is the 
>outspoken person that he is.  If he wasn't, would have the balls to publish that???  
>I cannot guess anyone right off.
> 
> Scott Sanders
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:59 PM
> > To: Jakarta General List
> > Subject: Re: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > The Java Community Process (JCP) is not a "community" process 
> > at all. It's a way for Sun Inc. to claim they are open. You 
> > know it. I know it. Sun knows it. Let's stop deluding 
> > ourselves shall we?
> > 
> > I say we move "that flaming fireball" to the home page of *Apache*. 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Ceki
> > 
> > At 17:10 30.01.2002 -0500, Ted Husted wrote:
> > >I'm not comfortable with carrying this type of editorial 
> > matter at the 
> > >top of the home page, and would like to move it to the news 
> > and status 
> > >page.
> > >
> > >-Ted.
> > >
> > > Original Message 
> > >Subject: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml
> > >Date: 30 Jan 2002 21:53:04 -
> > >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >Reply-To: "Jakarta WebSite CVS List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > >
> > >jon 02/01/30 13:53:04
> > >
> > >  Modified:docs index.html
> > >   xdocsindex.xml
> > >  Log:
> > >  lets have a little fun.
> > >  
> > >  Revision  ChangesPath
> > >  1.52  +32 -0 jakarta-site2/docs/index.html
> > >  
> > >  Index: index.html  
> > > ===
> > >  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
> > >  retrieving revision 1.51
> > >  retrieving revision 1.52
> > >  diff -u -r1.51 -r1.52
> > >  --- index.html29 Jan 2002 01:47:06 -  1.51
> > >  +++ index.html30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 -  1.52
> > >  @@ -140,6 +140,38 @@
> > > 
> >  
> > >
> > > 
> > >   
> > >  +  That
> > >flaming fireball in the sky...
> > >  +
> > >  +  
> > >  +  
> > >  +
> > >  +
> > >  +In a recent  > >href="http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=Su
> > nInterview
> > >">article,
> > >Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility and Platform
> > >  +Services for Sun Microsystems, had the following to say:
> > >  +
> > >  +
> > >  +"The J2EE Compatible brand has achieved significant 
> > momentum over the
> > >  +past two years, and we want to make sure that any open 
> > source efforts
> > >  +don't impact the viability of that effort."
> > >  +
> > >  +
> > >  +In other words, Sun doesn't give a hoot about whether 
> > J2EE licensing
> > >  +restricts open source J2EE products (in case you missed 
> > it, it does).
> > >  +Thus, the Apache Software Foundation's involvement in the Java
> > >Community
> > >  +Process (JCP) is simply an advertising statement for Sun to claim
> > >that
> > >  +they have a 'vision which uses open standards and non-proprietary
> > >  +interfaces'. If you would like to express your opinions of Sun's
> > >  +licensing terms, feel free to contact  > >href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED] and let us 
> > know what you
> > >  +think. Thanks.
> > >  +
> > >  +
> > >  +
> > >  +  
> > >  +  
> >

RE: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]

[Andrew C. Oliver]

My only issue and I guess this is directed more at you Jon, is it
doesn't give me a clear idea about "what we want".  Can you give me a
good idea and I'll be glad to submit a patch to that effect.  It just
seems like we should be asking for something and being specific.

-Andy


On Wed, 2002-01-30 at 17:53, Paulo Gaspar wrote:
> Sometimes I (argh!) love Jon!
> =;o)
> 
> Paulo
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Scott Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:07 PM
> > To: Jakarta General List
> > Subject: RE: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]
> > 
> > 
> > Why is that?
> > 
> > > -Original Message-
> > > From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:10 PM
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Subject: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]
> > > 
> > > 
> > > I'm not comfortable with carrying this type of editorial 
> > > matter at the top of the home page, and would like to move it 
> > > to the news and status page. 
> > > 
> > > -Ted.
> > > 
> > >  Original Message 
> > > Subject: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml
> > > Date: 30 Jan 2002 21:53:04 -
> > > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > Reply-To: "Jakarta WebSite CVS List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > > 
> > > jon 02/01/30 13:53:04
> > > 
> > >   Modified:docs index.html
> > >xdocsindex.xml
> > >   Log:
> > >   lets have a little fun.
> > >   
> > >   Revision  ChangesPath
> > >   1.52  +32 -0 jakarta-site2/docs/index.html
> > >   
> > >   Index: index.html
> > >   ===
> > >   RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
> > >   retrieving revision 1.51
> > >   retrieving revision 1.52
> > >   diff -u -r1.51 -r1.52
> > >   --- index.html  29 Jan 2002 01:47:06 -  1.51
> > >   +++ index.html  30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 -  1.52
> > >   @@ -140,6 +140,38 @@
> > >   
> > > 
> > >  
> > >
> > >   +  That
> > > flaming fireball in the sky...
> > >   +
> > >   +  
> > >   +  
> > >   +
> > >   +
> > >   +In a recent  > > href="http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=Sun
> > > Interview">article,
> > > Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility and Platform
> > >   +Services for Sun Microsystems, had the following to say:
> > >   +
> > >   +
> > >   +"The J2EE Compatible brand has achieved significant 
> > > momentum over the
> > >   +past two years, and we want to make sure that any open 
> > > source efforts
> > >   +don't impact the viability of that effort."
> > >   +
> > >   +
> > >   +In other words, Sun doesn't give a hoot about whether J2EE 
> > > licensing
> > >   +restricts open source J2EE products (in case you missed 
> > > it, it does).
> > >   +Thus, the Apache Software Foundation's involvement in the 
> > > Java Community
> > >   +Process (JCP) is simply an advertising statement for Sun 
> > > to claim that
> > >   +they have a 'vision which uses open standards and non-proprietary
> > >   +interfaces'. If you would like to express your opinions of Sun's
> > >   +licensing terms, feel free to contact  > > href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED] and let us 
> > > know what you
> > >   +think. Thanks.
> > >   +
> > >   +
> > >   +
> > >   +  
> > >   +  
> > >   +
> > >   + > > cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" width="100%">
> > >   +  
> > >   +
> > >  Welcome
> > >
> > >  
> > >   
> > >   
> > >   

RE: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]

[Scott Sanders]

+1.  + 1!  Why should Apache be silent if the process in NOT open?  Publicity is 
+what this needs.  C# is more open than the JCP, and that is really, really sad.  If 
+we can't express these opinions, who will?  I am personally glad that jon is the 
+outspoken person that he is.  If he wasn't, would have the balls to publish that???  
+I cannot guess anyone right off.

Scott Sanders

> -Original Message-
> From: Ceki Gülcü [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:59 PM
> To: Jakarta General List
> Subject: Re: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]
> 
> 
> 
> The Java Community Process (JCP) is not a "community" process 
> at all. It's a way for Sun Inc. to claim they are open. You 
> know it. I know it. Sun knows it. Let's stop deluding 
> ourselves shall we?
> 
> I say we move "that flaming fireball" to the home page of *Apache*. 
> 
> -- 
> Ceki
> 
> At 17:10 30.01.2002 -0500, Ted Husted wrote:
> >I'm not comfortable with carrying this type of editorial 
> matter at the 
> >top of the home page, and would like to move it to the news 
> and status 
> >page.
> >
> >-Ted.
> >
> > Original Message 
> >Subject: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml
> >Date: 30 Jan 2002 21:53:04 -
> >From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >Reply-To: "Jakarta WebSite CVS List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> >
> >jon 02/01/30 13:53:04
> >
> >  Modified:docs index.html
> >   xdocsindex.xml
> >  Log:
> >  lets have a little fun.
> >  
> >  Revision  ChangesPath
> >  1.52  +32 -0 jakarta-site2/docs/index.html
> >  
> >  Index: index.html  
> > ===
> >  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
> >  retrieving revision 1.51
> >  retrieving revision 1.52
> >  diff -u -r1.51 -r1.52
> >  --- index.html29 Jan 2002 01:47:06 -  1.51
> >  +++ index.html30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 -  1.52
> >  @@ -140,6 +140,38 @@
> > 
>  
> >
> > 
> >   
> >  +  That
> >flaming fireball in the sky...
> >  +
> >  +  
> >  +  
> >  +
> >  +
> >  +In a recent  >href="http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=Su
> nInterview
> >">article,
> >Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility and Platform
> >  +Services for Sun Microsystems, had the following to say:
> >  +
> >  +
> >  +"The J2EE Compatible brand has achieved significant 
> momentum over the
> >  +past two years, and we want to make sure that any open 
> source efforts
> >  +don't impact the viability of that effort."
> >  +
> >  +
> >  +In other words, Sun doesn't give a hoot about whether 
> J2EE licensing
> >  +restricts open source J2EE products (in case you missed 
> it, it does).
> >  +Thus, the Apache Software Foundation's involvement in the Java
> >Community
> >  +Process (JCP) is simply an advertising statement for Sun to claim
> >that
> >  +they have a 'vision which uses open standards and non-proprietary
> >  +interfaces'. If you would like to express your opinions of Sun's
> >  +licensing terms, feel free to contact  >href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED] and let us 
> know what you
> >  +think. Thanks.
> >  +
> >  +
> >  +
> >  +  
> >  +  
> >  +
> >  + >cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" width="100%">
> >  +  
> >  +
> > Welcome
> >   
> > 
> >  
> >  
> >  
> >  1.21  +28 -0 jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml
> >  
> >  Index: index.xml  
> > ===
> >  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml,v
> >  retrieving revision 1.20
> >  retrieving revision 1.21
> >  diff -u -r1.20 -r1.21
> >  --- index.xml 20 Jan 2002 16:28:07 -  1.20
> >  +++ index.xml 30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 -  1.21
> >  @@ -9,6 +9,34 @@
> >

Re: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]

[Ceki Gülcü]

The Java Community Process (JCP) is not a "community" process at
all. It's a way for Sun Inc. to claim they are open. You know it. I
know it. Sun knows it. Let's stop deluding ourselves shall we?

I say we move "that flaming fireball" to the home page of *Apache*. 

-- 
Ceki

At 17:10 30.01.2002 -0500, Ted Husted wrote:
>I'm not comfortable with carrying this type of editorial matter at the
>top of the home page, and would like to move it to the news and status
>page. 
>
>-Ted.
>
>---- Original Message 
>Subject: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml
>Date: 30 Jan 2002 21:53:04 -
>From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>Reply-To: "Jakarta WebSite CVS List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
>To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
>
>jon 02/01/30 13:53:04
>
>  Modified:docs index.html
>   xdocsindex.xml
>  Log:
>  lets have a little fun.
>  
>  Revision  ChangesPath
>  1.52  +32 -0 jakarta-site2/docs/index.html
>  
>  Index: index.html
>  ===
>  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
>  retrieving revision 1.51
>  retrieving revision 1.52
>  diff -u -r1.51 -r1.52
>  --- index.html29 Jan 2002 01:47:06 -  1.51
>  +++ index.html30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 -  1.52
>  @@ -140,6 +140,38 @@
>  
>
> 
>   
>  +  That
>flaming fireball in the sky...
>  +
>  +  
>  +  
>  +
>  +
>  +In a recent href="http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=SunInterview";>article,
>Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility and Platform
>  +Services for Sun Microsystems, had the following to say:
>  +
>  +
>  +"The J2EE Compatible brand has achieved significant momentum over the
>  +past two years, and we want to make sure that any open source efforts
>  +don't impact the viability of that effort."
>  +
>  +
>  +In other words, Sun doesn't give a hoot about whether J2EE licensing
>  +restricts open source J2EE products (in case you missed it, it does).
>  +Thus, the Apache Software Foundation's involvement in the Java
>Community
>  +Process (JCP) is simply an advertising statement for Sun to claim
>that
>  +they have a 'vision which uses open standards and non-proprietary
>  +interfaces'. If you would like to express your opinions of Sun's
>  +licensing terms, feel free to contact href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED] and let us know what you
>  +think. Thanks.
>  +
>  +
>  +
>  +  
>  +  
>  +
>  +cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" width="100%">
>  +  
>  +
> Welcome
>   
> 
>  
>  
>  
>  1.21  +28 -0 jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml
>  
>  Index: index.xml
>  ===
>  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml,v
>  retrieving revision 1.20
>  retrieving revision 1.21
>  diff -u -r1.20 -r1.21
>  --- index.xml 20 Jan 2002 16:28:07 -  1.20
>  +++ index.xml 30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 -  1.21
>  @@ -9,6 +9,34 @@
>   
>   
>   
>  +
>  +
>  +In a recent  
>+href="http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=SunInterview";
>  +>article, Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility and
>Platform
>  +Services for Sun Microsystems, had the following to say:
>  +
>  +
>  +
>  +"The J2EE Compatible brand has achieved significant momentum over the
>  +past two years, and we want to make sure that any open source efforts
>  +don't impact the viability of that effort."
>  +
>  +
>  +
>  +In other words, Sun doesn't give a hoot about whether J2EE licensing
>  +restricts open source J2EE products (in case you missed it, it does).
>  +Thus, the Apache Software Foundation's involvement in the Java
>Community
>  +Process (JCP) is simply an advertising statement for Sun to claim
>that
>  +they have a 'vision which uses open standards and non-proprietary
>  +interfaces'. If you would like to express your opinions of Sun's
>  +licensing terms, feel free to contact   +href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED] and let us know what
>you
>  +think. Thanks.
>  +
>  +
>  +
>  +
>   
>   
>   

RE: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]

[Paulo Gaspar]

Sometimes I (argh!) love Jon!
=;o)

Paulo

> -Original Message-
> From: Scott Sanders [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 11:07 PM
> To: Jakarta General List
> Subject: RE: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]
> 
> 
> Why is that?
> 
> > -Original Message-
> > From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> > Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:10 PM
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Subject: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]
> > 
> > 
> > I'm not comfortable with carrying this type of editorial 
> > matter at the top of the home page, and would like to move it 
> > to the news and status page. 
> > 
> > -Ted.
> > 
> >  Original Message 
> > Subject: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml
> > Date: 30 Jan 2002 21:53:04 -
> > From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > Reply-To: "Jakarta WebSite CVS List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> > To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> > 
> > jon 02/01/30 13:53:04
> > 
> >   Modified:docs index.html
> >xdocsindex.xml
> >   Log:
> >   lets have a little fun.
> >   
> >   Revision  ChangesPath
> >   1.52  +32 -0 jakarta-site2/docs/index.html
> >   
> >   Index: index.html
> >   ===
> >   RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
> >   retrieving revision 1.51
> >   retrieving revision 1.52
> >   diff -u -r1.51 -r1.52
> >   --- index.html29 Jan 2002 01:47:06 -  1.51
> >   +++ index.html30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 -  1.52
> >   @@ -140,6 +140,38 @@
> >   
> > 
> >  
> >
> >   +  That
> > flaming fireball in the sky...
> >   +
> >   +  
> >   +  
> >   +
> >   +
> >   +In a recent  > href="http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=Sun
> > Interview">article,
> > Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility and Platform
> >   +Services for Sun Microsystems, had the following to say:
> >   +
> >   +
> >   +"The J2EE Compatible brand has achieved significant 
> > momentum over the
> >   +past two years, and we want to make sure that any open 
> > source efforts
> >   +don't impact the viability of that effort."
> >   +
> >   +
> >   +In other words, Sun doesn't give a hoot about whether J2EE 
> > licensing
> >   +restricts open source J2EE products (in case you missed 
> > it, it does).
> >   +Thus, the Apache Software Foundation's involvement in the 
> > Java Community
> >   +Process (JCP) is simply an advertising statement for Sun 
> > to claim that
> >   +they have a 'vision which uses open standards and non-proprietary
> >   +interfaces'. If you would like to express your opinions of Sun's
> >   +licensing terms, feel free to contact  > href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED] and let us 
> > know what you
> >   +think. Thanks.
> >   +
> >   +
> >   +
> >   +  
> >   +  
> >   +
> >   + > cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" width="100%">
> >   +  
> >   +
> >  Welcome
> >
> >  
> >   
> >   
> >   
> >   1.21  +28 -0 jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml
> >   
> >   Index: index.xml
> >   ===
> >   RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml,v
> >   retrieving revision 1.20
> >   retrieving revision 1.21
> >   diff -u -r1.20 -r1.21
> >   --- index.xml 20 Jan 2002 16:28:07 -  1.20
> >   +++ index.xml 30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 -  1.21
> >   @@ -9,6 +9,34 @@
> >
> >
> >
> >   +
> >   +
> >   +In a recent  >  
> > +href="http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=Su
> > nInterview
> > +"
> >   +>article, Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility 
> > and Platform
> >   +Services for Sun Microsystems, had the following to say:
> > 

RE: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]

[Scott Sanders]

Why is that?

> -Original Message-
> From: Ted Husted [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]] 
> Sent: Wednesday, January 30, 2002 2:10 PM
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: [Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]
> 
> 
> I'm not comfortable with carrying this type of editorial 
> matter at the top of the home page, and would like to move it 
> to the news and status page. 
> 
> -Ted.
> 
> ---- Original Message ----
> Subject: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml
> Date: 30 Jan 2002 21:53:04 -
> From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Reply-To: "Jakarta WebSite CVS List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> 
> jon 02/01/30 13:53:04
> 
>   Modified:docs index.html
>xdocsindex.xml
>   Log:
>   lets have a little fun.
>   
>   Revision  ChangesPath
>   1.52  +32 -0 jakarta-site2/docs/index.html
>   
>   Index: index.html
>   ===
>   RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
>   retrieving revision 1.51
>   retrieving revision 1.52
>   diff -u -r1.51 -r1.52
>   --- index.html  29 Jan 2002 01:47:06 -  1.51
>   +++ index.html  30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 -  1.52
>   @@ -140,6 +140,38 @@
>   
> 
>  
>
>   +  That
> flaming fireball in the sky...
>   +
>   +  
>   +  
>   +
>   +
>   +In a recent  href="http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=Sun
> Interview">article,
> Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility and Platform
>   +Services for Sun Microsystems, had the following to say:
>   +
>   +
>   +"The J2EE Compatible brand has achieved significant 
> momentum over the
>   +past two years, and we want to make sure that any open 
> source efforts
>   +don't impact the viability of that effort."
>   +
>   +
>   +In other words, Sun doesn't give a hoot about whether J2EE 
> licensing
>   +restricts open source J2EE products (in case you missed 
> it, it does).
>   +Thus, the Apache Software Foundation's involvement in the 
> Java Community
>   +Process (JCP) is simply an advertising statement for Sun 
> to claim that
>   +they have a 'vision which uses open standards and non-proprietary
>   +interfaces'. If you would like to express your opinions of Sun's
>   +licensing terms, feel free to contact  href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED] and let us 
> know what you
>   +think. Thanks.
>   +
>   +
>   +
>   +  
>   +  
>   +
>   + cellspacing="0" cellpadding="2" width="100%">
>   +  
>   +
>  Welcome
>
>  
>   
>   
>   
>   1.21  +28 -0 jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml
>   
>   Index: index.xml
>   ===
>   RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml,v
>   retrieving revision 1.20
>   retrieving revision 1.21
>   diff -u -r1.20 -r1.21
>   --- index.xml   20 Jan 2002 16:28:07 -  1.20
>   +++ index.xml   30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 -  1.21
>   @@ -9,6 +9,34 @@
>
>
>
>   +
>   +
>   +In a recent   
> +href="http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=Su
> nInterview
> +"
>   +>article, Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility 
> and Platform
>   +Services for Sun Microsystems, had the following to say:
>   +
>   +
>   +
>   +"The J2EE Compatible brand has achieved significant 
> momentum over the
>   +past two years, and we want to make sure that any open 
> source efforts
>   +don't impact the viability of that effort."
>   +
>   +
>   +
>   +In other words, Sun doesn't give a hoot about whether J2EE 
> licensing
>   +restricts open source J2EE products (in case you missed 
> it, it does).
>   +Thus, the Apache Software Foundation's involvement in the 
> Java Community
>   +Process (JCP) is simply an advertising statement for Sun 
> to claim that
>   +they have a 'vision which uses open standards and non-proprietary
>   +interfaces'. If you would like to express your opinions of Sun's
>   +licensing terms, feel free to contact+href="mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED] and let us 
> know what you
>   +think. Thanks.
>   +
>   +
>   +
>   +
>
>
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[Fwd: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml]

[Ted Husted]

I'm not comfortable with carrying this type of editorial matter at the
top of the home page, and would like to move it to the news and status
page. 

-Ted.

 Original Message 
Subject: cvs commit: jakarta-site2/xdocs index.xml
Date: 30 Jan 2002 21:53:04 -
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
Reply-To: "Jakarta WebSite CVS List" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]

jon 02/01/30 13:53:04

  Modified:docs index.html
   xdocsindex.xml
  Log:
  lets have a little fun.
  
  Revision  ChangesPath
  1.52  +32 -0 jakarta-site2/docs/index.html
  
  Index: index.html
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/docs/index.html,v
  retrieving revision 1.51
  retrieving revision 1.52
  diff -u -r1.51 -r1.52
  --- index.html29 Jan 2002 01:47:06 -  1.51
  +++ index.html30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 -  1.52
  @@ -140,6 +140,38 @@
  

 
   
  +  That
flaming fireball in the sky...
  +
  +  
  +  
  +
  +
  +In a recent http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=SunInterview";>article,
Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility and Platform
  +Services for Sun Microsystems, had the following to say:
  +
  +
  +"The J2EE Compatible brand has achieved significant momentum over the
  +past two years, and we want to make sure that any open source efforts
  +don't impact the viability of that effort."
  +
  +
  +In other words, Sun doesn't give a hoot about whether J2EE licensing
  +restricts open source J2EE products (in case you missed it, it does).
  +Thus, the Apache Software Foundation's involvement in the Java
Community
  +Process (JCP) is simply an advertising statement for Sun to claim
that
  +they have a 'vision which uses open standards and non-proprietary
  +interfaces'. If you would like to express your opinions of Sun's
  +licensing terms, feel free to contact mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED] and let us know what you
  +think. Thanks.
  +
  +
  +
  +  
  +  
  +
  +
  +  
  +
 Welcome
   
 
  
  
  
  1.21  +28 -0 jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml
  
  Index: index.xml
  ===
  RCS file: /home/cvs/jakarta-site2/xdocs/index.xml,v
  retrieving revision 1.20
  retrieving revision 1.21
  diff -u -r1.20 -r1.21
  --- index.xml 20 Jan 2002 16:28:07 -  1.20
  +++ index.xml 30 Jan 2002 21:53:03 -  1.21
  @@ -9,6 +9,34 @@
   
   
   
  +
  +
  +In a recent http://www.theserverside.com/resources/article.jsp?l=SunInterview";
  +>article, Karen Tegan, Director of J2EE Compatibility and
Platform
  +Services for Sun Microsystems, had the following to say:
  +
  +
  +
  +"The J2EE Compatible brand has achieved significant momentum over the
  +past two years, and we want to make sure that any open source efforts
  +don't impact the viability of that effort."
  +
  +
  +
  +In other words, Sun doesn't give a hoot about whether J2EE licensing
  +restricts open source J2EE products (in case you missed it, it does).
  +Thus, the Apache Software Foundation's involvement in the Java
Community
  +Process (JCP) is simply an advertising statement for Sun to claim
that
  +they have a 'vision which uses open standards and non-proprietary
  +interfaces'. If you would like to express your opinions of Sun's
  +licensing terms, feel free to contact mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]";>[EMAIL PROTECTED] and let us know what
you
  +think. Thanks.
  +
  +
  +
  +