RE: [ofa-general] oversubscription

2007-03-14 Thread SEGERS Koen
Your question made it clear :) We are still using only one SFS-7000P switch. 
Routing is here not an option. 
 
This was our setup:
 
   s1
  | | | | 
 SFS-7000P
|| | | 
  h1  h2  h3  h4
 
So change the routing will give no benefit what so ever...
 
Greetz
 
Koen


From: Yevgeny Kliteynik [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]
Sent: Wed 3/14/2007 8:24 AM
To: Hal Rosenstock
Cc: SEGERS Koen; [email protected]
Subject: Re: [ofa-general] oversubscription



Hal Rosenstock wrote:
> On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 17:30, SEGERS Koen wrote:
>> I'm trying to resolve an oversubscription problem of 1 server
>> receiving streams from 4 hosts.
>> 
>> If you connect the server with 4 cables to the switch, it should be
>> resolved when I define the routes that should be used. But is it
>> possible to define the routing tables in the subnet manager?
>
> Depends on the SM as to whether this is supported or not. OpenSM
> supports the ability to do this as do some vendor SMs.
>
>> Maybe just running the fattree routing module is sufficient?
>
> I'm not sure; Yevgeny would be the best to answer this.

What is the fabric topology?

Basically, you can try using fat-tree routing, and if the topology
is not a fat-tree, OpenSM will issue an error message and will use
default routing.
You can get more details from the osm/doc/current-routing.txt

-- Yevgeny

>>  I also saw that it is possible to set the routes by using a file. Can
>> someone give an example of this?
>
> This capability is documented in the opensm man page. You can obtain
> this file via dump_lfts.sh script.
>
>> Currently I'm trying a combination of partitioning and linux routing.
>> Is this a good idea?
>
> What do you mean by Linux routing ? Is this IP routing ?
>
> -- Hal
>
>> BTW: we are only interested in SDP and IPoIB. In a previous thread I
>> discovered that bonding/aggregation/merging is not possible in an
>> active/active situation. So this doesn't improve our setup.
>> 
>> greetz,
>> 
>> Koen
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Re: [ofa-general] oversubscription

2007-03-14 Thread Hal Rosenstock
On Wed, 2007-03-14 at 02:24, Yevgeny Kliteynik wrote:
> Hal Rosenstock wrote:
> > On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 17:30, SEGERS Koen wrote:
> >> I'm trying to resolve an oversubscription problem of 1 server
> >> receiving streams from 4 hosts.
> >>  
> >> If you connect the server with 4 cables to the switch, it should be
> >> resolved when I define the routes that should be used. But is it
> >> possible to define the routing tables in the subnet manager?
> > 
> > Depends on the SM as to whether this is supported or not. OpenSM
> > supports the ability to do this as do some vendor SMs.
> > 
> >> Maybe just running the fattree routing module is sufficient?
> > 
> > I'm not sure; Yevgeny would be the best to answer this.
> 
> What is the fabric topology?
> 
> Basically, you can try using fat-tree routing, and if the topology
> is not a fat-tree, OpenSM will issue an error message and will use
> default routing.
> You can get more details from the osm/doc/current-routing.txt

Same info on fat tree is in the opensm man page.

-- Hal


> -- Yevgeny
> 
> >>  I also saw that it is possible to set the routes by using a file. Can
> >> someone give an example of this?
> > 
> > This capability is documented in the opensm man page. You can obtain
> > this file via dump_lfts.sh script.
> > 
> >> Currently I'm trying a combination of partitioning and linux routing.
> >> Is this a good idea?
> > 
> > What do you mean by Linux routing ? Is this IP routing ?
> > 
> > -- Hal
> > 
> >> BTW: we are only interested in SDP and IPoIB. In a previous thread I
> >> discovered that bonding/aggregation/merging is not possible in an
> >> active/active situation. So this doesn't improve our setup.
> >>  
> >> greetz,
> >>  
> >> Koen
> >> *** Disclaimer ***
> >>
> >> Vlaamse Radio- en Televisieomroep
> >> Auguste Reyerslaan 52, 1043 Brussel
> >>
> >> nv van publiek recht
> >> BTW BE 0244.142.664
> >> RPR Brussel
> >> http://www.vrt.be/disclaimer
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Re: [ofa-general] oversubscription

2007-03-13 Thread Yevgeny Kliteynik

Hal Rosenstock wrote:

On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 17:30, SEGERS Koen wrote:

I'm trying to resolve an oversubscription problem of 1 server
receiving streams from 4 hosts.
 
If you connect the server with 4 cables to the switch, it should be

resolved when I define the routes that should be used. But is it
possible to define the routing tables in the subnet manager?


Depends on the SM as to whether this is supported or not. OpenSM
supports the ability to do this as do some vendor SMs.


Maybe just running the fattree routing module is sufficient?


I'm not sure; Yevgeny would be the best to answer this.


What is the fabric topology?

Basically, you can try using fat-tree routing, and if the topology
is not a fat-tree, OpenSM will issue an error message and will use
default routing.
You can get more details from the osm/doc/current-routing.txt

-- Yevgeny


 I also saw that it is possible to set the routes by using a file. Can
someone give an example of this?


This capability is documented in the opensm man page. You can obtain
this file via dump_lfts.sh script.


Currently I'm trying a combination of partitioning and linux routing.
Is this a good idea?


What do you mean by Linux routing ? Is this IP routing ?

-- Hal


BTW: we are only interested in SDP and IPoIB. In a previous thread I
discovered that bonding/aggregation/merging is not possible in an
active/active situation. So this doesn't improve our setup.
 
greetz,
 
Koen

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Re: [ofa-general] oversubscription

2007-03-13 Thread Greg Lindahl
On Tue, Mar 13, 2007 at 11:30:14PM +0100, SEGERS Koen wrote:

> I'm trying to resolve an oversubscription problem of 1 server receiving 
> streams from 4 hosts.

A host can only receive so fast, no matter how many IB cards you stuff
into it. This is doubly so if you plan on doing something with all
that data.

Getting the routing tables right is the least of your worries.

-- greg

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Re: [ofa-general] oversubscription

2007-03-13 Thread Hal Rosenstock
On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 17:30, SEGERS Koen wrote:
> I'm trying to resolve an oversubscription problem of 1 server
> receiving streams from 4 hosts.
>  
> If you connect the server with 4 cables to the switch, it should be
> resolved when I define the routes that should be used. But is it
> possible to define the routing tables in the subnet manager?

Depends on the SM as to whether this is supported or not. OpenSM
supports the ability to do this as do some vendor SMs.

> Maybe just running the fattree routing module is sufficient?

I'm not sure; Yevgeny would be the best to answer this.

>  I also saw that it is possible to set the routes by using a file. Can
> someone give an example of this?

This capability is documented in the opensm man page. You can obtain
this file via dump_lfts.sh script.

> Currently I'm trying a combination of partitioning and linux routing.
> Is this a good idea?

What do you mean by Linux routing ? Is this IP routing ?

-- Hal

> BTW: we are only interested in SDP and IPoIB. In a previous thread I
> discovered that bonding/aggregation/merging is not possible in an
> active/active situation. So this doesn't improve our setup.
>  
> greetz,
>  
> Koen
> *** Disclaimer ***
> 
> Vlaamse Radio- en Televisieomroep
> Auguste Reyerslaan 52, 1043 Brussel
> 
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Re: [ofa-general] oversubscription

2007-03-13 Thread Hal Rosenstock
On Tue, 2007-03-13 at 17:30, SEGERS Koen wrote:
> I'm trying to resolve an oversubscription problem of 1 server
> receiving streams from 4 hosts.
>  
> If you connect the server with 4 cables to the switch, it should be
> resolved when I define the routes that should be used. But is it
> possible to define the routing tables in the subnet manager? Maybe
> just running the fattree routing module is sufficient? I also saw that
> it is possible to set the routes by using a file. Can someone give an
> example of this?
>  
> Currently I'm trying a combination of partitioning and linux routing.
> Is this a good idea?
>  
> BTW: we are only interested in SDP and IPoIB. In a previous thread I
> discovered that bonding/aggregation/merging is not possible in an
> active/active situation. So this doesn't improve our setup.
>  
> greetz,
>  
> Koen
> *** Disclaimer ***
> 
> Vlaamse Radio- en Televisieomroep
> Auguste Reyerslaan 52, 1043 Brussel
> 
> nv van publiek recht
> BTW BE 0244.142.664
> RPR Brussel
> http://www.vrt.be/disclaimer
> 
> 
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