[gentoo-amd64] KDE 4.2.4 and kdeprefix
Okay, I took a week off to hit my beach house in the Outer Banks and now I'm back and ready to roll. I was in the middle of my KDE 4.2.4 upgrade when I left (most is done, just a few things like kdeedu-meta need to be merged) and now I find that when I get back and sync up, doing a update of kdeedu-meta-4.2.4 has the '-kdeprefix' as a new use flag. I didn't see this before. Is this now a required USE flag for KDE? If so I need to blow away my existing packages and build everything new, so what's the best way to do that with the minimum of fuss? -- Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415
[gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.2.4 and kdeprefix
On 06/23/2009 05:09 PM, Mark Haney wrote: Okay, I took a week off to hit my beach house in the Outer Banks and now I'm back and ready to roll. I was in the middle of my KDE 4.2.4 upgrade when I left (most is done, just a few things like kdeedu-meta need to be merged) and now I find that when I get back and sync up, doing a update of kdeedu-meta-4.2.4 has the '-kdeprefix' as a new use flag. I didn't see this before. Is this now a required USE flag for KDE? No, it isn't. Just proceed with the re-emerge.
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.2.4 and kdeprefix
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 06/23/2009 05:09 PM, Mark Haney wrote: No, it isn't. Just proceed with the re-emerge. Here's my make.conf: USE=-gtk -gnome qt qt4 kde dvdr dvd mpeg ogg cdr alsa ipv6 symlink acpi nptl nptlonly nsplugin dvdread unicode apache2 mad vorbis yahoo oscar wlm opengl X pdf mp3 qt3 mozbranding jpeg arts irc encode mysql zlib a52 xml nsplugin sasl x264 xvid nowlistening mp4 faad aac svg png flac sndfile tk xcomposite dri hal ipv6 xorg xcb sdl -semantic-desktop -nepomuk -strigi kdeprefix win32codecs mng msn So with kdeprefix set why am I suddenly seeing this: [ebuild U ] kde-base/kmplot-4.2.4 [4.2.3] USE=handbook%* -debug (-kdeprefix*) (-doc%) 0 kB [ebuild U ] kde-base/ktouch-4.2.4 [4.2.3] USE=handbook%* -debug (-kdeprefix*) (-doc%) 0 kB [ebuild U ] kde-base/kturtle-4.2.4 [4.2.3] USE=handbook%* -debug (-kdeprefix*) (-doc%) 0 kB [ebuild U ] kde-base/kdeedu-meta-4.2.4 [4.2.3] USE=(-kdeprefix) 0 kB Where 2 weeks ago I wasn't seeing that I was seeing USE=...kdeprefix... -- Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415
[gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.2.4 and kdeprefix
On 06/23/2009 06:01 PM, Mark Haney wrote: Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 06/23/2009 05:09 PM, Mark Haney wrote: No, it isn't. Just proceed with the re-emerge. [...] So with kdeprefix set why am I suddenly seeing this: [ebuild U ] kde-base/kmplot-4.2.4 [4.2.3] USE=handbook%* -debug (-kdeprefix*) (-doc%) 0 kB [ebuild U ] kde-base/ktouch-4.2.4 [4.2.3] USE=handbook%* -debug (-kdeprefix*) (-doc%) 0 kB [ebuild U ] kde-base/kturtle-4.2.4 [4.2.3] USE=handbook%* -debug (-kdeprefix*) (-doc%) 0 kB [ebuild U ] kde-base/kdeedu-meta-4.2.4 [4.2.3] USE=(-kdeprefix) 0 kB Where 2 weeks ago I wasn't seeing that I was seeing USE=...kdeprefix... If the output of: grep IUSE /usr/portage/kde-base/kdeedu-meta/kdeedu-meta-4.2.4.ebuild doesn't result in this: IUSE=kdeprefix then emerge --sync and try again. Also, check /etc/portage/package.use and see if you disabled kdeprefix there and simply forgot about it.
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.2.4 and kdeprefix
Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 06/23/2009 06:01 PM, Mark Haney wrote: If the output of: grep IUSE /usr/portage/kde-base/kdeedu-meta/kdeedu-meta-4.2.4.ebuild doesn't result in this: IUSE=kdeprefix then emerge --sync and try again. Also, check /etc/portage/package.use and see if you disabled kdeprefix there and simply forgot about it. Nope, those are all right. Here's what I have when I look at those commands: octavian ~ # grep IUSE /usr/portage/kde-base/kdeedu-meta/kdeedu-meta-4.2.4.ebuild IUSE=kdeprefix octavian ~ # cat /etc/portage/package.use/monolithic #Not sure I want to keep this this way: #kde-base/kdepimlibs -kdeprefix dev-python/PyQt4 webkit dbus qt3support sys-libs/glibc userlocales app-cdr/k3b -hal x11-libs/wxGTK unicode net-p2p/amule gtk sys-apps/pciutils -zlib dev-libs/xmlrpc-c curl x11-libs/qt:4 accessibility dbus gif jpeg png qt3support ssl zlib opengl www-plugins/mplayerplug-in divx quicktime realmedia wmp net-analyzer/wireshark gtk x11-libs/qt-gui dbus dev-lang/python berkdb sqlite app-text/poppler-bindings gtk cairo media-libs/wxsvg ffmpeg Note that the one '-kdeprefix' line I have in package.use is commented out. That is my entire pacakge.use file, FWIW. So what now? -- Interdum feror cupidine partium magnarum Europae vincendarum Mark Haney Sr. Systems Administrator ERC Broadband (828) 350-2415
Re: [gentoo-amd64] KDE 4.2.4 and kdeprefix
On Dienstag 23 Juni 2009, Mark Haney wrote: Okay, I took a week off to hit my beach house in the Outer Banks and now I'm back and ready to roll. I was in the middle of my KDE 4.2.4 upgrade when I left (most is done, just a few things like kdeedu-meta need to be merged) and now I find that when I get back and sync up, doing a update of kdeedu-meta-4.2.4 has the '-kdeprefix' as a new use flag. I didn't see this before. Is this now a required USE flag for KDE? If so I need to blow away my existing packages and build everything new, so what's the best way to do that with the minimum of fuss? kdeprefix has been masked ( a simple grep for it in /usr/portage/porfiles would have told you that). And yes, you have to start new. The savest way is to deinstall all kde packages - I didn't do that (in fact, I even had kde running while doing the switch), and it was ok. Either way, kdeprefix is gone.
[gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.2.4 and kdeprefix
On 06/23/2009 09:40 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Dienstag 23 Juni 2009, Mark Haney wrote: Okay, I took a week off to hit my beach house in the Outer Banks and now I'm back and ready to roll. I was in the middle of my KDE 4.2.4 upgrade when I left (most is done, just a few things like kdeedu-meta need to be merged) and now I find that when I get back and sync up, doing a update of kdeedu-meta-4.2.4 has the '-kdeprefix' as a new use flag. I didn't see this before. Is this now a required USE flag for KDE? If so I need to blow away my existing packages and build everything new, so what's the best way to do that with the minimum of fuss? kdeprefix has been masked ( a simple grep for it in /usr/portage/porfiles would have told you that). And yes, you have to start new. The savest way is to deinstall all kde packages - I didn't do that (in fact, I even had kde running while doing the switch), and it was ok. Either way, kdeprefix is gone. I'm baffled. This should have at least deserved some announcement. I'm subscribed to mailing lists and all the feeds on gentoo.org (Planet Gentoo and whatever.) Silence. This is not good. Someone has to inform us every now and then about what's going on, even if it's just a one-liner written posted in 10 seconds
[gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.2.4 and kdeprefix
On 06/23/2009 09:40 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: a simple grep for it in /usr/portage/porfiles would have told you that Btw, I don't see anything simple about it. I've no idea what /usr/portage/porfiles is, or why it doesn't even exist here. You could as well have asked to a simple grep on /usr/share/fortune/kernelcookies to find out why suspend to RAM doesn't work with my USB coffee cup.
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.2.4 and kdeprefix
On Dienstag 23 Juni 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 06/23/2009 09:40 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: a simple grep for it in /usr/portage/porfiles would have told you that Btw, I don't see anything simple about it. I've no idea what /usr/portage/porfiles is, or why it doesn't even exist here. You could as well have asked to a simple grep on /usr/share/fortune/kernelcookies to find out why suspend to RAM doesn't work with my USB coffee cup. it is /usr/portage/profiles really, can't you even spot a typo? profiles - I am sure it is mentioned several times in the installation guide and other documentation - holds the profiles, as the name says. You know? The system set, default flags and other important stuff. Also package.mask and use.mask. Together with comments why something is masked.
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.2.4 and kdeprefix
On 06/23/2009 09:40 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Dienstag 23 Juni 2009, Mark Haney wrote: Okay, I took a week off to hit my beach house in the Outer Banks and now I'm back and ready to roll. I was in the middle of my KDE 4.2.4 upgrade when I left (most is done, just a few things like kdeedu-meta need to be merged) and now I find that when I get back and sync up, doing a update of kdeedu-meta-4.2.4 has the '-kdeprefix' as a new use flag. I didn't see this before. Is this now a required USE flag for KDE? If so I need to blow away my existing packages and build everything new, so what's the best way to do that with the minimum of fuss? kdeprefix has been masked ( a simple grep for it in /usr/portage/porfiles would have told you that). And yes, you have to start new. The savest way is to deinstall all kde packages - I didn't do that (in fact, I even had kde running while doing the switch), and it was ok. Either way, kdeprefix is gone. I'm baffled. This should have at least deserved some announcement. I'm subscribed to mailing lists and all the feeds on gentoo.org (Planet Gentoo and whatever.) Silence. This is not good. Someone has to inform us every now and then about what's going on, even if it's just a one-liner written posted in 10 seconds http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4-guide.xml there is such announcement on **Official** kde4 guide for Gentoo -- Markos Chandras (hwoarang) Gentoo Linux Developer [KDE/Qt/Sunrise/Sound] Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org
[gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.2.4 and kdeprefix
On 06/23/2009 10:21 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: I'm baffled. This should have at least deserved some announcement. I'm subscribed to mailing lists and all the feeds on gentoo.org (Planet Gentoo and whatever.) Silence. This is not good. Someone has to inform us every now and then about what's going on, even if it's just a one-liner written posted in 10 seconds http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4-guide.xml there is such announcement on **Official** kde4 guide for Gentoo I don't see one. It would be nice to get news on normal channels. Like the RSS feeds or the mailing lists.
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.2.4 and kdeprefix
On Dienstag 23 Juni 2009, Markos Chandras wrote: On 06/23/2009 09:40 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Dienstag 23 Juni 2009, Mark Haney wrote: Okay, I took a week off to hit my beach house in the Outer Banks and now I'm back and ready to roll. I was in the middle of my KDE 4.2.4 upgrade when I left (most is done, just a few things like kdeedu-meta need to be merged) and now I find that when I get back and sync up, doing a update of kdeedu-meta-4.2.4 has the '-kdeprefix' as a new use flag. I didn't see this before. Is this now a required USE flag for KDE? If so I need to blow away my existing packages and build everything new, so what's the best way to do that with the minimum of fuss? kdeprefix has been masked ( a simple grep for it in /usr/portage/porfiles would have told you that). And yes, you have to start new. The savest way is to deinstall all kde packages - I didn't do that (in fact, I even had kde running while doing the switch), and it was ok. Either way, kdeprefix is gone. I'm baffled. This should have at least deserved some announcement. I'm subscribed to mailing lists and all the feeds on gentoo.org (Planet Gentoo and whatever.) Silence. This is not good. Someone has to inform us every now and then about what's going on, even if it's just a one-liner written posted in 10 seconds http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4-guide.xml there is such announcement on **Official** kde4 guide for Gentoo what he means is: a mail to gentoo-user, -announce and or a news item on gentoo.org would have been the right thing to do. And that is something I support.
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.2.4 and kdeprefix
On Tuesday 23 June 2009 22:25:45 Nikos Chantziaras wrote: On 06/23/2009 10:21 PM, Markos Chandras wrote: I'm baffled. This should have at least deserved some announcement. I'm subscribed to mailing lists and all the feeds on gentoo.org (Planet Gentoo and whatever.) Silence. This is not good. Someone has to inform us every now and then about what's going on, even if it's just a one-liner written posted in 10 seconds http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4-guide.xml there is such announcement on **Official** kde4 guide for Gentoo I don't see one. Ok what about this 3. Installation The new kdeprefix USE flag **Warning: Big Fat Warning! The kdeprefix USE flag is masked. It's unsupported and shouldn't be used by users in any way. Use on your own risk.** It would be nice to get news on normal channels. Like the RSS feeds or the mailing lists. The announcement is also on the last meeting summary. Maybe an announcement on gentoo-desktop should might be needed as well but anyway. We cant just update all the possible media a gentoo users uses. We could have made an announcement on forums as well or a blog spot. Anyway -- Markos Chandras (hwoarang) Gentoo Linux Developer [KDE/Qt/Sound/Sunrise] Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
Re: [gentoo-amd64] Re: KDE 4.2.4 and kdeprefix
On Tuesday 23 June 2009 22:28:43 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Dienstag 23 Juni 2009, Markos Chandras wrote: On 06/23/2009 09:40 PM, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: On Dienstag 23 Juni 2009, Mark Haney wrote: Okay, I took a week off to hit my beach house in the Outer Banks and now I'm back and ready to roll. I was in the middle of my KDE 4.2.4 upgrade when I left (most is done, just a few things like kdeedu-meta need to be merged) and now I find that when I get back and sync up, doing a update of kdeedu-meta-4.2.4 has the '-kdeprefix' as a new use flag. I didn't see this before. Is this now a required USE flag for KDE? If so I need to blow away my existing packages and build everything new, so what's the best way to do that with the minimum of fuss? kdeprefix has been masked ( a simple grep for it in /usr/portage/porfiles would have told you that). And yes, you have to start new. The savest way is to deinstall all kde packages - I didn't do that (in fact, I even had kde running while doing the switch), and it was ok. Either way, kdeprefix is gone. I'm baffled. This should have at least deserved some announcement. I'm subscribed to mailing lists and all the feeds on gentoo.org (Planet Gentoo and whatever.) Silence. This is not good. Someone has to inform us every now and then about what's going on, even if it's just a one-liner written posted in 10 seconds http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/desktop/kde/kde4-guide.xml there is such announcement on **Official** kde4 guide for Gentoo what he means is: a mail to gentoo-user, -announce and or a news item on gentoo.org would have been the right thing to do. And that is something I support. A gentoo news item would have been excellent. I admit that we failed on that -- Markos Chandras (hwoarang) Gentoo Linux Developer [KDE/Qt/Sound/Sunrise] Web: http://hwoarang.silverarrow.org signature.asc Description: This is a digitally signed message part.
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