[gentoo-dev] Gentoo on m68k

2005-06-21 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Hi, I got no answer on gentoo-user, so I try again here. I've seen keywords m68k and ~m68k in several ebuilds and there's also an m68k profile in the portage tree. Does this mean I can put gentoo on my old Amiga? Is there a stage file somewhere which I can test? And finally: Anything I can

Re: [gentoo-dev] Language styling translation tools

2005-06-21 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Tuesday 21 June 2005 06:32, Anthony Gorecki wrote: On Monday, June 20, 2005 9:30 pm, Wesley Leggette wrote: Isn't that sort of like speaking French with English words? Sorry, perhaps I should actually state what I need to do in clear terms: I need to turn MyQuiteLongClassOrMethodName()

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND and IUSE

2005-06-21 Thread Jason Stubbs
On Wednesday 22 June 2005 05:28, Jason Stubbs wrote: On Tuesday 21 June 2005 14:35, Alin Nastac wrote: This would be fine as long as LINGUAS do not appear in IUSE. When LINGUAS var is empty, the equery uses report would be an abomination . The whole point is to add this stuff to IUSE and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo on m68k

2005-06-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 21 June 2005 05:46 am, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Does this mean I can put gentoo on my old Amiga? kind of Is there a stage file somewhere which I can test? not yet ... but you can find binary packages here: http://dev.gentoo.org/~vapier/m68k/ And finally: Anything I can do to help?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo on m68k

2005-06-21 Thread Dirk Heinrichs
Am Dienstag, 21. Juni 2005 15:02 schrieb ext Mike Frysinger: On Tuesday 21 June 2005 05:46 am, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Is there a stage file somewhere which I can test? not yet ... but you can find binary packages here: http://dev.gentoo.org/~vapier/m68k/ Ah yes, I will see if I find some

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Enterprise deployment tools

2005-06-21 Thread Alec Warner
Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi folks, I would like to get your opinion on Enterprise-oriented desktop deployment tools for Gentoo Linux (or the lack of). As a small company CIO, I deployed Gentoo on a small scale here but quickly ran into scaling problems and the lack of tools to help. There is no

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND and IUSE

2005-06-21 Thread Alec Warner
Donnie Berkholz wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Jason Stubbs wrote: Any reason why INPUT_DEVICES is needed in USE_EXPAND rather than just as local USE flags? It's kind of the odd one out among the above. The reasoning for that is that hardware support doesn't make

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo on m68k

2005-06-21 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Tuesday 21 June 2005 09:55 am, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: Am Dienstag, 21. Juni 2005 15:02 schrieb ext Mike Frysinger: On Tuesday 21 June 2005 05:46 am, Dirk Heinrichs wrote: And finally: Anything I can do to help? try to get a gcc version which doesnt segfault ? :) Yep, that was the

Re: [gentoo-dev] USE_EXPAND and IUSE

2005-06-21 Thread Donnie Berkholz
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alec Warner wrote: Donnie Berkholz wrote: The reasoning for that is that hardware support doesn't make sense as USE flags, so it should be something else. In this case, that was INPUT_DEVICES. We haven't been able to take much advantage of it yet,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Language styling translation tools

2005-06-21 Thread Anthony Gorecki
On Tuesday, June 21, 2005 2:48 am, Paul de Vrieze wrote: What the tool should basically do is in some way record the full names (including namespaces) that were changed, and then at the end change them back again. That was one of the first things that I considered, but how would it know to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Enterprise deployment tools

2005-06-21 Thread Thierry Carrez
Alec Warner wrote: There is no obvious way to freeze a Portage tree (or to design a specific profile) for testing on a golden workstation, to build a set of update packages (ServicePack) and push it to the workstations, or to have centralized accountability of what's installed where. There is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Discussion: alternative compatible utilities

2005-06-21 Thread Aron Griffis
Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote:[Fri Jun 17 2005, 10:05:32AM EDT] On Friday 17 June 2005 04:32, Aron Griffis wrote: Before working on a solution to the problem, could we get a more complete list of the tools in question? This has come up before but the list seems to always end with etc etc

Re: [gentoo-dev] Discussion: alternative compatible utilities

2005-06-21 Thread Aron Griffis
Azarah wrote:[Sat Jun 18 2005, 07:23:19AM EDT] You might however say install all gnuish tools with the 'g' prefix, and then install wrapper scripts/stubs into say /usr/bin/gnu/ or /bin/gnu/ (with /usr/bin/gnu/find calling gfind, etc), and portage just adds this path as the first path to $PATH

Re: [gentoo-dev] Discussion: alternative compatible utilities

2005-06-21 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Tuesday 21 June 2005 20:42, Aron Griffis wrote: In other words, I think you need to do some work in an overlay so that you can present a real list of affected ebuilds and utilites, rather than stating that you don't really know Well this was just a discussion, no work should really start for

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Enterprise deployment tools

2005-06-21 Thread Omkhar Arasaratnam
Thierry Carrez wrote: Hi folks, I would like to get your opinion on Enterprise-oriented desktop deployment tools for Gentoo Linux (or the lack of). As a small company CIO, I deployed Gentoo on a small scale here but quickly ran into scaling problems and the lack of tools to help. There is no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Enterprise deployment tools

2005-06-21 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, Jun 21, 2005 at 08:35:52PM +0200, Thierry Carrez wrote: I don't say that it cannot be done, and I don't ask what's the best way to do it. I just ask *if* we should try to provide higher-level tools (and/or doc) to help in doing so. It's not obvious (especially for non-developers) how