Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: User support system [WAS: Sunrise contemplations]

2006-08-17 Thread Mike Cvet
On Thu, 2006-08-17 at 21:05 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:42:52 -0500 "James Potts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > | hmmmdoesn't the GNU ClassPath implement enough of Java's runtimes > | to handle a command-line app like this (the app needs, basically, to > | be able to

Re: [gentoo-dev] If I may interject...

2006-08-17 Thread Samuel Baldwin
Quoth the subject: "If I may interject".The term "slaveryware" is a little extreme, but not out of reality. Microsoft does take steps to make themselves the *only* operating system out there (heck, they are even putting Windows on Macintosh!). They do not physically harm you if you switch Operating

Re: [gentoo-dev] User support system [WAS: Sunrise contemplations]

2006-08-17 Thread Marius Mauch
On Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:11:24 +0200 Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > * Thomas Cort <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > You should look for existing tools which could be enhanced before > > suggesting a new one. `bugz post` (from www-client/pybugz) allows > > you to submit a new bug report f

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: User support system [WAS: Sunrise contemplations]

2006-08-17 Thread Carsten Lohrke
On Thursday 17 August 2006 21:42, James Potts wrote: > hmmmdoesn't the GNU ClassPath implement enough of Java's runtimes > to handle a command-line app like this When it is at 100% 1.4 compatibility (and that does not mean nearly as bug free, stable, fast, etc. as Sun's Java is), the latter w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: User support system [WAS: Sunrise contemplations]

2006-08-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 14:42:52 -0500 "James Potts" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | hmmmdoesn't the GNU ClassPath implement enough of Java's runtimes | to handle a command-line app like this (the app needs, basically, to | be able to read files, communicate via the http protocol, print to | stdout, a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: User support system [WAS: Sunrise contemplations]

2006-08-17 Thread James Potts
hmmmdoesn't the GNU ClassPath implement enough of Java's runtimes to handle a command-line app like this (the app needs, basically, to be able to read files, communicate via the http protocol, print to stdout, and accept input from stdin)? And doesn't Kaffe use the GNU ClassPath? And if this

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: User support system [WAS: Sunrise contemplations]

2006-08-17 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Thursday 17 August 2006 16:37, Enrico Weigelt wrote: > * Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > > > > > You ever seen the term "slaveryware"? You have now. > > We are still talking about the java *language* ? > I aggree that we shouldn't be bound to some certain proprietary > software. But the

Re: [gentoo-dev] If I may interject...

2006-08-17 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Thursday 17 August 2006 03:01, Mike Lundy wrote: > I told a friend that there were some in the community who called > proprietary software slaveryware. His response? "Holy shit!" If that term > spreads, we can forget about convincing otherwise logical people that free > software is the Right Way

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: User support system [WAS: Sunrise contemplations]

2006-08-17 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 17 Aug 2006 16:37:50 +0200 Enrico Weigelt <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: | *If* the kaffe port is currently broken, then let's fix it. Off you go then. -- Ciaran McCreesh Mail: ciaran dot mccreesh at blueyonder.co.uk -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: User support system [WAS: Sunrise contemplations]

2006-08-17 Thread Enrico Weigelt
* Duncan <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> schrieb: > You ever seen the term "slaveryware"? You have now. We are still talking about the java *language* ? I aggree that we shouldn't be bound to some certain proprietary software. But the java language is not software, it is couple of abstract concept for

[gentoo-dev] Re: If I may interject...

2006-08-17 Thread Duncan
Mike Lundy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:01:37 -0700: Mike Lundy <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Wed, 16 Aug 2006 18:01:37 -0700: > I strive to be logical about this, and as un-inflammatory as > possible.