Re: [gentoo-dev] PORTAGE_BINHOST Madness

2007-01-06 Thread Alec Warner
Gustavo Felisberto wrote: My main issue is with size. Right now portage has to pull ALL the packages in the PORTAGE_BINHOST to create the dep tree. Is there a way for me to say: emerge -u --use-bynary-packages-if-possible system and portage will build the dep tree based on the local portage

[gentoo-dev] bugs.gentoo.org migration - completed!

2007-01-06 Thread Robin H. Johnson
On Thu, Jan 04, 2007 at 02:54:24PM -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: This is tentatively scheduled to start at 02h00 UTC on 6th January 2007. I am estimating 3 hours for all of it, but I hope to have it done is less than that. And we're done! Some delays were experienced getting it up (total

[gentoo-dev] autotools eclass - set default for WANT_AUTO*

2007-01-06 Thread Alon Bar-Lev
Hello, Is there any reason why not setting latest as default for WANT_AUTO* variables? I believe that an ebuild should set these variables only if there is some exception. Best Regards, Alon Bar-Lev. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] autotools eclass - set default for WANT_AUTO*

2007-01-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 06 January 2007 05:10, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: Is there any reason why not setting latest as default for WANT_AUTO* variables? I believe that an ebuild should set these variables only if there is some exception. that seems like a not-too-shabby idea actually -mike pgp7qE8JnVb2f.pgp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo-GIS Overlay request

2007-01-06 Thread Luca Casagrande
We have created the overlay, hosting it on sourceforge: http://gentoo-gis.sourceforge.net/ Can it be added to Layman default list? Thanks Luca On 12/6/06, Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Luca Casagrande wrote: Hi to all! I am a user of geographic information system (GIS) on

Re: [gentoo-dev] bugs.gentoo.org migration - completed!

2007-01-06 Thread Wernfried Haas
On Sat, Jan 06, 2007 at 12:27:31AM -0800, Robin H. Johnson wrote: And we're done! Thanks to myself, kingtaco, ramereth, solar, jforman and cshields for all playing a part of getting this together so far! A special thank you to our sponsor GNi (gni.com) for the hardware. I hear there will

Re: [gentoo-dev] autotools eclass - set default for WANT_AUTO*

2007-01-06 Thread Kevin F. Quinn
On Sat, 6 Jan 2007 05:21:48 -0500 Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 06 January 2007 05:10, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: Is there any reason why not setting latest as default for WANT_AUTO* variables? I believe that an ebuild should set these variables only if there is some

Re: [gentoo-dev] autotools eclass - set default for WANT_AUTO*

2007-01-06 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Saturday 06 January 2007 11:10, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: Is there any reason why not setting latest as default for WANT_AUTO* variables? Because then stuff will magically work in stable, and break in ~arch, and you won't know why it's happening. Instead if you follow the procedure (set the

Re: [gentoo-dev] autotools eclass - set default for WANT_AUTO*

2007-01-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 06 January 2007 09:47, Kevin F. Quinn wrote: Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Saturday 06 January 2007 05:10, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: Is there any reason why not setting latest as default for WANT_AUTO* variables? I believe that an ebuild should set these variables

Re: [gentoo-dev] autotools eclass - set default for WANT_AUTO*

2007-01-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 06 January 2007 10:22, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Saturday 06 January 2007 11:10, Alon Bar-Lev wrote: Is there any reason why not setting latest as default for WANT_AUTO* variables? Because then stuff will magically work in stable, and break in ~arch, and you won't

Re: [gentoo-dev] autotools eclass - set default for WANT_AUTO*

2007-01-06 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Saturday 06 January 2007 16:42, Mike Frysinger wrote: what does it matter if all of the ebuilds declare latest or the eclass declares latest ? Weren't we going to allow declaring 1.10 1.9 soon, so that we could stop using latest ? -- Diego Flameeyes Pettenò -

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Re: Dependencies on system packages

2007-01-06 Thread Steve Long
Robert Buchholz wrote: But I had the impression the idea was discarded anyway. So I should focus my thoughts somewhere else :-) Please focus your thoughts wherever you wish. I gotta ask tho; what idea? I thought we were just talking about excess dependencies in the tree. I somehow lost

Re: [gentoo-dev] autotools eclass - set default for WANT_AUTO*

2007-01-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 06 January 2007 11:05, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Saturday 06 January 2007 16:42, Mike Frysinger wrote: what does it matter if all of the ebuilds declare latest or the eclass declares latest ? Weren't we going to allow declaring 1.10 1.9 soon, so that we could stop

[gentoo-dev] Re: metadatabase

2007-01-06 Thread Steve Long
Ryan Hill wrote: Robert Buchholz wrote: I don't want to sound negative and I like the idea a lot, but two things are on my mind about this: It should also sync with changes in the tree, like package removals, additions and package moves. For sure. When you're talking about it on

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: GPL-2 vs GPL-2+

2007-01-06 Thread Steve Long
Paul de Vrieze wrote: My idea for the second way is basically to make the life of tools easier. It would make explicit that someone accepting GPL-3, but not GPL-2 would be able to accept a GPL-2 and later license. Ah, I see what I'm missing- you're saying a tool could just check for the

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: GPL-2 vs GPL-2+

2007-01-06 Thread Steve Long
Having read the other thread, I have to agree that the N+ approach is better, as you could have GPL3+ as well with simple parsing. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: [rfc] transition system loggers to 'adm' user/group

2007-01-06 Thread Steve Long
Steve Long wrote: maybe, but no one has this as the default behavior, so ... -mike Yeah, but it's still a good idea, as others have discussed. Just wanted to apologise for my rudeness there- after all it was your proposal in the first place. Just been a bit strung out recently, so please

Re: [gentoo-dev] autotools eclass - set default for WANT_AUTO*

2007-01-06 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
On Saturday 06 January 2007 18:25, Mike Frysinger wrote: the reason was so in the *eclass* you could translate latest to 1.10 1.9 and drop the need of executing that helper function in local scope Right, but I thought the other one, too.. Well, I suppose it would do little harm at this point to

[gentoo-dev] Last rites for app-i18n/jmode

2007-01-06 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
As per summary, this is a last rites message for jmode. It's an IME engine that still uses GTK+ 1.2 (we all know what that means), and that was last touched to fix something useful - beside the einfo - elog move yesterday - on 2004-11-23, by usata, adding the following postinst message:

Re: [gentoo-dev] autotools eclass - set default for WANT_AUTO*

2007-01-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 06 January 2007 13:32, Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò wrote: On Saturday 06 January 2007 19:23, Mike Frysinger wrote: why not just get rid of the idea of latest ?  is there a scenario where autotools would be inherited but not actually used/added to DEPEND ?  i guess that's what this

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo/FreeBSD: license problems require a development pause

2007-01-06 Thread Diego 'Flameeyes' Pettenò
Copying from my latest blog post, to let the news be spread without surprises: -- This is a very sad blog by my side, although I hope this can be cleared up soon so that I don’t have to be this sad anymore in the future. Basically, the public Gentoo/FreeBSD development is officially halted

[gentoo-dev] dodoc default?

2007-01-06 Thread Steve Long
is it possible for dodoc to do a `make doc' (or whatever the standard is) if called without any filenames? -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: PORTAGE_BINHOST Madness

2007-01-06 Thread Steve Long
Alec Warner wrote: Talk to solar about binhost, I know he has a better implementation lying around; it's a matter of finalizing it ;) solar: where is it on your site? -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo/FreeBSD: license problems require a development pause

2007-01-06 Thread Steve Long
if u need help with the clean room stuff, give me a shout. when i meet a coder i really respect, i tell them i'm a clean-room engineer. only then. -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] dodoc default?

2007-01-06 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 07 January 2007 00:13, Steve Long wrote: is it possible for dodoc to do a `make doc' (or whatever the standard is) there is no such standard -mike pgpDj99We5oHj.pgp Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] Re: dodoc default?

2007-01-06 Thread Steve Long
Mike Frysinger wrote: On Sunday 07 January 2007 00:13, Steve Long wrote: is it possible for dodoc to do a `make doc' (or whatever the standard is) there is no such standard -mike well are there any general usage examples? i've just had to amend an ebuild so that it did make doc, and i