Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: gzip-dict

2008-12-19 Thread Peter Volkov
В Срд, 17/12/2008 в 16:34 -0800, Donnie Berkholz пишет: Is that some huge package that takes an unreasonable amount of time to build or space to install? Probably in this case it takes reasonable amount of time... If not, this doesn't seem like a very meaningful choice to me. Well, your

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: gzip-dict

2008-12-19 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 17:40:41 +0300 Peter Volkov p...@gentoo.org wrote: Well, your questions forced me to do my own investigation of gzip performance in one real-life scenario which I hope to use really soon. I took my Neo FreeRunner and tested gzip decompression speed there. Time to read 10Mb

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: gzip-dict

2008-12-19 Thread Peter Volkov
В Птн, 19/12/2008 в 14:45 +, Ciaran McCreesh пишет: If it reads (and presumably uncompresses) all of them at startup anyway, what's the point in compressing them at all? It makes size smaller: both index and data files are text files so compression is very effective. All distributions I've

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: gzip-dict

2008-12-19 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Fri, 19 Dec 2008 19:56:02 +0300 Peter Volkov p...@gentoo.org wrote: В Птн, 19/12/2008 в 14:45 +, Ciaran McCreesh пишет: If it reads (and presumably uncompresses) all of them at startup anyway, what's the point in compressing them at all? It makes size smaller: both index and data

Re: [gentoo-dev] New global USE flag: gzip-dict

2008-12-19 Thread Peter Volkov
В Птн, 19/12/2008 в 17:06 +, Ciaran McCreesh пишет: But disk space is cheap. How big are the dictionaries? The vim dictionaries are around half a meg uncompressed, and if you're looking to save a meg or two in disk space on the kind of system that includes dictionaries then you're doing

[gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: gzip-dict

2008-12-19 Thread Duncan
Peter Volkov p...@gentoo.org posted 1229707964.13304.1334.ca...@localhost, excerpted below, on Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:32:44 +0300: В Птн, 19/12/2008 в 17:06 +, Ciaran McCreesh пишет: But disk space is cheap. How big are the dictionaries? The vim dictionaries are around half a meg

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: New global USE flag: gzip-dict

2008-12-19 Thread Mart Raudsepp
On Sat, 2008-12-20 at 00:16 +, Duncan wrote: But a gig of space (or even half a gig)... that's rather different as there are still a decent number of people for whom that's 1% or more of their total, who may be willing to take that latency as they have better things to do with the

[gentoo-dev] Re: bash version in ebuilds/eclasses...non-compliance and what to do?

2008-12-19 Thread Steve Long
Jeremy Olexa wrote: This causes me pain on my hosts that don't have =bash-3.1[0] for /bin/bash. Because I can't install portage with an old bash until I get a new python installed which uses python.eclass which isn't supported with my /bin/bash (quite circular indeed) Technically there are