Re: [gentoo-dev] Real multilib support for Gentoo

2009-04-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 04 April 2009 08:59:22 Thomas Sachau wrote: > i would like to hear about other opinions about real multilib support > within our tree and package managers. From what i know, there are mainly 2 > different ideas: > > 1. Do the main stuff in the package manager (e.g. if the ARCH is amd64

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: toolchain-funcs.eclass

2009-04-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 04 April 2009 13:17:56 Fabian Groffen (grobian) wrote: > grobian 09/04/04 17:17:56 > > Modified: toolchain-funcs.eclass > Log: > Add support for all Prefix arches, in particular for gen_usr_ld_script, > and add AIX specific function, backport from Prefix you reall

[gentoo-dev] Re: [gentoo-commits] gentoo-x86 commit in eclass: flag-o-matic.eclass

2009-04-04 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 17:57:54 + "Fabian Groffen (grobian)" wrote: > grobian 09/04/04 17:57:54 > > Modified: flag-o-matic.eclass > Log: > backport fix for x86-macos in filter-flags from Prefix > > Revision ChangesPath > 1.133eclass/flag-o-matic.eclas

[gentoo-dev] News item review: X.org server 1.5 stable (repost)

2009-04-04 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Repost of news item as I forgot to cc the PR project. Commit postponed by one day. V-Li -- Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-lisp on FreeNode http://gentoo.faulhammer.org/> signature.asc Description: PGP signature

[gentoo-dev] News item for review: teTeX deprecation (repost)

2009-04-04 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Repost of news item as I forgot to cc the PR project. Commit postponed by one day. V-Li -- Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-lisp on FreeNode http://gentoo.faulhammer.org/> Title: Migration from teTeX to TeXLive Author: Christian Faulh

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-04 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 04-04-2009 20:41:34 +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > The two aren't mutually contradictory. Quite the contrary. > > For EAPI 3, we're aiming to make it illegal to do anything with a flag > unless it's either explicitly listed in IUSE or handled via a number of > special magic profile variables,

[gentoo-dev] Re: News item for review: teTeX deprecation

2009-04-04 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, "Heath N. Caldwell" : > How about: > > teTeX is obsolete and has been unsupported upstream since May of 2006. > All users who still have teTex installed should uninstall it and > install TeXLive using the upgrade guide accessible at the following > URL: http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/tex/texli

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-04 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 21:36:40 +0200 Fabian Groffen wrote: > On 04-04-2009 12:24:32 -0700, Zac Medico wrote: > > > Sure it's not a user land like GNU or BSD but I can't see why we > > > couldn't change what USERLAND means. > > > > But why change the meaning if it's confusing an unnecessary? > > Perh

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-04 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:20:09 -0700 > Zac Medico wrote: >> Actually, after further inspection of PMS, it seems that the >> IUSE_IMPLICIT is more appropriate for the 'prefix' flag since it >> doesn't seem to fit into the USE_EXP

[gentoo-dev] Re: News item for review: teTeX deprecation

2009-04-04 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Ulrich Mueller : > > On Fri, 3 Apr 2009, Heath N Caldwell wrote: > > > On 2009-04-04 00:57, Christian Faulhammer wrote: > >> please review attached news item. > > Well, I'd thought that last rites plus the message in package.mask > were enough (it also mentions the URL of the migration

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-04 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 04-04-2009 12:24:32 -0700, Zac Medico wrote: > > Sure it's not a user land like GNU or BSD but I can't see why we > > couldn't change what USERLAND means. > > But why change the meaning if it's confusing an unnecessary? > Perhaps it's more appropriate to set IUSE_IMPLICIT="prefix". This sounds

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Zac Medico wrote: > Petteri Räty wrote: >> Fabian Groffen wrote: >>> On 04-04-2009 15:21:23 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: You can set USERLAND="GNU PREFIX" >>> Prefix is not a userland, please understand that. >>> It's like pizza not being an elibc, or beer not being a kernel. >>> >> Sure it's no

[gentoo-dev] Re: News item review: X.org server upgrade

2009-04-04 Thread Christian Faulhammer
Hi, Petteri Räty : > Christian Faulhammer wrote: > > Hi, > > > > please see attached news item for review. > > > > V-Li > > > > > > s/emerging/updating/ Fixed. V-Li -- Christian Faulhammer, Gentoo Lisp project http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/lisp/>, #gentoo-lisp on FreeNode http://gentoo

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-04 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Petteri Räty wrote: > Fabian Groffen wrote: >> On 04-04-2009 15:21:23 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: >>> You can set USERLAND="GNU PREFIX" >> Prefix is not a userland, please understand that. >> It's like pizza not being an elibc, or beer not being a kerne

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-04 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 12:20:09 -0700 Zac Medico wrote: > Actually, after further inspection of PMS, it seems that the > IUSE_IMPLICIT is more appropriate for the 'prefix' flag since it > doesn't seem to fit into the USE_EXPAND paradigm. Were we after k

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-04 Thread Zac Medico
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Zac Medico wrote: > Jeremy Olexa wrote: >> So, my recommendation is to: >> 1) mask the prefix USE flag in base/use.mask because no one except the >> prefix profiles should use this flag. >> 2) unmask and force the USE flag in prefix profile. >> 3) add

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Fabian Groffen wrote: > On 04-04-2009 15:21:23 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: >> You can set USERLAND="GNU PREFIX" > > Prefix is not a userland, please understand that. > It's like pizza not being an elibc, or beer not being a kernel. > Sure it's not a user land like GNU or BSD but I can't see why w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages

2009-04-04 Thread Ferris McCormick
On Sat, 04 Apr 2009 16:16:29 +0200 Ehret Stefan wrote: > Timothy Redaelli wrote: > > On Saturday 04 April 2009 13:05:04 Ehret Stefan wrote: > >> Hello > >> > >> I would ask if I can maintainer following packages for > >> the gentoo-amd64 arch. > >> > >> app-crypt/truecrypt > > What about bug #24

Re: [gentoo-dev] Real multilib support for Gentoo

2009-04-04 Thread Thilo Bangert
"Santiago M. Mola" said: > On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Thomas Sachau wrote: > > Hi folks, > > > > > > i would like to hear about other opinions about real multilib support > > within our tree and package managers. From what i know, there are > > mainly 2 different ideas: > > The proposals are

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-04-04 Thread Matti Bickel
Thilo Bangert wrote: > > 'guess'. Like how you have to guess what use flags are really being > > used for the package in question, because it doesn't tell you? > > i'd like to ask the developers of package managers to standardize this. > having --info be the same no matter who you like best is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages

2009-04-04 Thread Ehret Stefan
Timothy Redaelli wrote: > On Saturday 04 April 2009 13:05:04 Ehret Stefan wrote: >> Hello >> >> I would ask if I can maintainer following packages for >> the gentoo-amd64 arch. >> >> app-crypt/truecrypt > What about bug #241650? > the license seems to be a problem but what is with the other packa

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-04-04 Thread Thilo Bangert
> 'guess'. Like how you have to guess what use flags are really being > used for the package in question, because it doesn't tell you? i'd like to ask the developers of package managers to standardize this. having --info be the same no matter who you like best is incredibly usefull. while we a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages

2009-04-04 Thread Timothy Redaelli
On Saturday 04 April 2009 13:05:04 Ehret Stefan wrote: > Hello > > I would ask if I can maintainer following packages for > the gentoo-amd64 arch. > > app-crypt/truecrypt What about bug #241650? -- Timothy `Drizzt` Redaelli FreeSBIE Developer, Gentoo Developer, GUFI Staff There are two major pro

Re: [gentoo-dev] Real multilib support for Gentoo

2009-04-04 Thread Santiago M. Mola
On Sat, Apr 4, 2009 at 2:59 PM, Thomas Sachau wrote: > Hi folks, > > > i would like to hear about other opinions about real multilib support within > our tree and package > managers. From what i know, there are mainly 2 different ideas: The proposals are not exactly these. 1. Make package manag

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-04-04 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 4 Apr 2009 15:17:30 +0200 Peter Alfredsen wrote: > While it may be useful to post all the information about the > package-manager for *you*, it's not helping us (bug-wranglers) any. We > need one screenfull of text that concisely shows us the state of your > system. There is no magic way

Re: [gentoo-dev] `paludis --info' is not like `emerge --info'

2009-04-04 Thread Peter Alfredsen
Paludis --info does not work for me. Plz2fix. In particular, have a look at http://bugs.gentoo.org/show_bug.cgi?id=262277#c4 Where both emerge --info and paludis --info is posted. Sometimes, more is less. While it may be useful to post all the information about the package-manager for *you*, it's

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-04 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 04-04-2009 14:22:09 +0200, Rémi Cardona wrote: > Le 03/04/2009 16:47, Jeremy Olexa a écrit : > > However, we have toyed with other ideas. One of which is to introduce > > IUSE=prefix in prefix.eclass similar to the USE=multilib approach. I > > don't really like this idea because it exposes the u

Re: [gentoo-dev] Real multilib support for Gentoo

2009-04-04 Thread Lars Wendler
Am Saturday 04 April 2009 14:59:22 schrieb Thomas Sachau: > Hi folks, > > > i would like to hear about other opinions about real multilib support > within our tree and package managers. From what i know, there are mainly 2 > different ideas: > > 1. Do the main stuff in the package manager (e.g. if

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 3's default src_install needs bikeshedding

2009-04-04 Thread Thomas Sachau
Robert Buchholz schrieb: > On Monday 30 March 2009, Thomas Sachau wrote: >> Ciaran McCreesh schrieb: >>> So far, we've got this, by agreement of the Council: >>> >>> * There will be a default src_install in EAPI 3 >>> * It will have a DOCS variable, or something along those lines. >>> >>> I'd like

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-04 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 04-04-2009 15:21:23 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: > You can set USERLAND="GNU PREFIX" Prefix is not a userland, please understand that. It's like pizza not being an elibc, or beer not being a kernel. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level

[gentoo-dev] Packages

2009-04-04 Thread Ehret Stefan
Hello I would ask if I can maintainer following packages for the gentoo-amd64 arch. app-mobilephone/openmoko-dfu-util app-crypt/truecrypt media-sound/songbird Regards, stefan

[gentoo-dev] Real multilib support for Gentoo

2009-04-04 Thread Thomas Sachau
Hi folks, i would like to hear about other opinions about real multilib support within our tree and package managers. From what i know, there are mainly 2 different ideas: 1. Do the main stuff in the package manager (e.g. if the ARCH is amd64 and the package has x86 keyword, the package manage

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-04 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 03/04/2009 16:47, Jeremy Olexa a écrit : However, we have toyed with other ideas. One of which is to introduce IUSE=prefix in prefix.eclass similar to the USE=multilib approach. I don't really like this idea because it exposes the use flag and we don't want it exposed to the users. Just of c

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Fabian Groffen wrote: > On 04-04-2009 14:54:20 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: >> Fabian Groffen wrote: >>> On 04-04-2009 14:31:20 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: If prefix is in USERLAND then you have a userland_prefix use flag to use that can be hidden. >>> It is not. >> But can be added. > > I

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-04 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 04-04-2009 14:54:20 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: > Fabian Groffen wrote: > > On 04-04-2009 14:31:20 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: > >> If prefix is in USERLAND then you have a userland_prefix use flag to use > >> that can be hidden. > > > > It is not. > > But can be added. I think we talk about di

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Fabian Groffen wrote: > On 04-04-2009 14:31:20 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: >> If prefix is in USERLAND then you have a userland_prefix use flag to use >> that can be hidden. > > It is not. > > But can be added. Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-04 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 04-04-2009 14:31:20 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: > If prefix is in USERLAND then you have a userland_prefix use flag to use > that can be hidden. It is not. -- Fabian Groffen Gentoo on a different level

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Fabian Groffen wrote: > On 04-04-2009 13:23:24 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: >>> However, we have toyed with other ideas. One of which is to introduce >>> IUSE=prefix in prefix.eclass similar to the USE=multilib approach. I >>> don't really like this idea because it exposes the use flag and we >>> don

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-04 Thread Fabian Groffen
On 04-04-2009 13:23:24 +0300, Petteri Räty wrote: > > > > However, we have toyed with other ideas. One of which is to introduce > > IUSE=prefix in prefix.eclass similar to the USE=multilib approach. I > > don't really like this idea because it exposes the use flag and we > > don't want it exposed

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: best way to introduce USE=prefix

2009-04-04 Thread Petteri Räty
> > However, we have toyed with other ideas. One of which is to introduce > IUSE=prefix in prefix.eclass similar to the USE=multilib approach. I > don't really like this idea because it exposes the use flag and we > don't want it exposed to the users. > If you don't want it exposed to users, the

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item review: X.org server upgrade

2009-04-04 Thread Petteri Räty
Christian Faulhammer wrote: > Hi, > > please see attached news item for review. > > V-Li > > s/emerging/updating/ Regards, Petteri signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature