Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: use of the /run directory

2011-05-23 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 17 May 2011 19:12:38 -0500 William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, May 17, 2011 at 11:50:32PM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: I would be interested to hear how you plan to do the migration, given that everyone else has managed to screw it up... I'm not sure what you mean

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Removal of kdeprefix news item

2011-05-23 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sun, 22 May 2011 16:52:55 -0400 Jonathan Callen a...@gentoo.org wrote: Here's the updated news item, which I will be committing very shortly. Please note that there is absolutely no version of portage that was not in package.mask that would have problems with an EAPI-2 atom in a news item

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: use of the /run directory

2011-05-23 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 23 May 2011 12:35:12 +0530 Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote: You may be better having both directories present, and not attempting to rename or move things at all. Then start fixing packages that install to the old directories. As I understand it, that's precisely what

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: use of the /run directory

2011-05-23 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 23 May 2011 12:35:12 +0530 Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote: As I understand it, that's precisely what William's plan is. $ ls -ld /var/{lock/run} /var/lock - /run/lock /var/run - /run/ This should work transparently for all existing applications. The only way this

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: use of the /run directory

2011-05-23 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 12:43 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 12:35:12 +0530 Nirbheek Chauhan nirbh...@gentoo.org wrote: As I understand it, that's precisely what William's plan is. $ ls -ld /var/{lock/run} /var/lock - /run/lock /var/run - /run/ This should

[gentoo-dev] Should server be a global use flag?

2011-05-23 Thread Anthony G. Basile
Hi all, I was looking at use.desc/use.local.desc to see if the server flag is global or not. I was surprised to see that it is not. There are 26 packages that use a local server flag and they all say something to the effect Enable ${PN} server support. Should we not promote this to global with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should server be a global use flag?

2011-05-23 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 23 May 2011 10:26:49 -0400 Anthony G. Basile bluen...@gentoo.org wrote: If yes, what's the procedure? Add the global one to use.desc. Then remove the local ones from their respective metadata.xml files. use.local.desc will be adjusted accordingly in time - no need to hurry. We'd have

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should server be a global use flag?

2011-05-23 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Mon, 23 May 2011, Anthony G Basile wrote: I was looking at use.desc/use.local.desc to see if the server flag is global or not. I was surprised to see that it is not. There are 26 packages that use a local server flag and they all say something to the effect Enable ${PN} server support.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should server be a global use flag?

2011-05-23 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 05/23/2011 10:48 AM, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011, Anthony G Basile wrote: I was looking at use.desc/use.local.desc to see if the server flag is global or not. I was surprised to see that it is not. There are 26 packages that use a local server flag and they all say something

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should server be a global use flag?

2011-05-23 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 23 May 2011 10:26:49 -0400 Anthony G. Basile bluen...@gentoo.org wrote: Hi all, I was looking at use.desc/use.local.desc to see if the server flag is global or not. I was surprised to see that it is not. There are 26 packages that use a local server flag and they all say something

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should server be a global use flag?

2011-05-23 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 23-05-2011 a las 17:19 +0200, Jeroen Roovers escribió: [...] app-mobilephone/obexd:server - Enables server installation, it's incompatible with obex-data-server provided one - Is it really really necessary to describe that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Removal of kdeprefix news item

2011-05-23 Thread Mark Loeser
Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org said: On Thu, 19 May 2011, Alec Warner wrote: You should file a bug about that; I'm sure one of the portage guys can change the crap code I wrote 4 years ago to use the normal dependency checking code for installed atoms. But we wouldn't know if users

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should server be a global use flag?

2011-05-23 Thread Dale
Jeroen Roovers wrote: (I find myself wondering why so much information is being jammed into USE flag descriptions that /should/ be available in HOWTOs from upstream, or else should be written down in HOWTOs we maintain ourselves - we (Gentoo) used to be good at providing HOWTOs as needed and

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should server be a global use flag?

2011-05-23 Thread Rich Freeman
On Mon, May 23, 2011 at 12:27 PM, Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: The reason the info is there is so that users, like me, know what the USE flag is for.  Me personally, I still think some of them don't help much and need more info but it is better than it used to be.  So, if you can make them

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should server be a global use flag?

2011-05-23 Thread Michał Górny
On Mon, 23 May 2011 16:48:15 +0200 Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011, Anthony G Basile wrote: I was looking at use.desc/use.local.desc to see if the server flag is global or not. I was surprised to see that it is not. There are 26 packages that use a local

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should server be a global use flag?

2011-05-23 Thread Anthony G. Basile
On 05/23/2011 12:37 PM, Michał Górny wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 16:48:15 +0200 Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011, Anthony G Basile wrote: I was looking at use.desc/use.local.desc to see if the server flag is global or not. I was surprised to see that it is not.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should server be a global use flag?

2011-05-23 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 23 May 2011 11:27:18 -0500 Dale rdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Jeroen Roovers wrote: (I find myself wondering why so much information is being jammed into USE flag descriptions that /should/ be available in HOWTOs from upstream, or else should be written down in HOWTOs we maintain

Re: [gentoo-dev] Should server be a global use flag?

2011-05-23 Thread Dale
Jeroen Roovers wrote: On Mon, 23 May 2011 11:27:18 -0500 Dalerdalek1...@gmail.com wrote: Jeroen Roovers wrote: (I find myself wondering why so much information is being jammed into USE flag descriptions that /should/ be available in HOWTOs from upstream, or else should be written