Re: [gentoo-dev] Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

2012-08-12 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 01:29:43 +0200 viv...@gmail.com viv...@gmail.com wrote: 2. I saw on some lists that Gnome/Kde and Xfce plan to use some SystemD API, so does it means that we will need to install SystemD aside of OpenRC ? It's not possible at the moment. systemd break non-systemd

Re: [gentoo-dev] Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

2012-08-12 Thread Samuli Suominen
On 08/07/2012 03:47 PM, Sylvain Alain wrote: Hi everyone, for a couple of months now, I see on the list some of activities about OpenRC been ported to FreeBSD or OpenRC to Debian and other stuff related to SystemD. I have some basic questions about all that : 2. I saw on some lists that

[gentoo-dev] Re: Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

2012-08-12 Thread Duncan
Peter Stuge posted on Sun, 12 Aug 2012 02:12:38 +0200 as excerpted: viv...@gmail.com wrote: First problem udev/SD has is that it can't see all the file system labels, for some reason it only see sda and sdb so it's able to partly proceed in the boot sequence, mount / (root) but can't mount

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

2012-08-12 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:43 AM, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Peter Stuge posted on Sun, 12 Aug 2012 02:12:38 +0200 as excerpted: What software parses the filesystem labels when you boot with openrc? (I ask because I never use labels myself.) Short answer, mount and udev, and the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

2012-08-12 Thread viv...@gmail.com
Il 12/08/2012 11:43, Duncan ha scritto: Peter Stuge posted on Sun, 12 Aug 2012 02:12:38 +0200 as excerpted: viv...@gmail.com wrote: First problem udev/SD has is that it can't see all the file system labels, for some reason it only see sda and sdb so it's able to partly proceed in the boot

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

2012-08-12 Thread viv...@gmail.com
Il 12/08/2012 14:25, Rich Freeman ha scritto: On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 5:43 AM, Duncan1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Peter Stuge posted on Sun, 12 Aug 2012 02:12:38 +0200 as excerpted: What software parses the filesystem labels when you boot with openrc? (I ask because I never use labels

Re: [gentoo-dev] Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

2012-08-12 Thread viv...@gmail.com
Il 12/08/2012 09:44, Michał Górny ha scritto: On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 01:29:43 +0200 viv...@gmail.comviv...@gmail.com wrote: 2. I saw on some lists that Gnome/Kde and Xfce plan to use some SystemD API, so does it means that we will need to install SystemD aside of OpenRC ? It's not possible at

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

2012-08-12 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Rich Freeman schrieb: So, I could see how many linux users might think that interpreting a complex root= parameter is a kernel function, when it is really just the fact that they use an initramfs. If somebody is running with root=LABEL=foo or something like that without an initramfs I'll

[gentoo-dev] Kernel calls gcc directly: fine?

2012-08-12 Thread Agostino Sarubbo
If you try to launch make V=1 from the kernel source directory you will see: gcc -Wp,-MD,scripts/mod/.empty.o.d -nostdinc -isystem /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64- pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/include -I/usr/src/linux-3.3.8-gentoo/arch/x86/include - Iarch/x86/include/generated -Iinclude -include

Re: [gentoo-dev] Kernel calls gcc directly: fine?

2012-08-12 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 16:19:59 +0200 Agostino Sarubbo a...@gentoo.org wrote: If you try to launch make V=1 from the kernel source directory you will see: snip So it calls gcc directly. Yes. That is called a default. Set CC on the make command line or set CONFIG_CROSS_COMPILE through make

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

2012-08-12 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 8:25 AM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote: I think that people get this confused because 99% of linux users have an initramfs (and about 2% of Gentoo users it seems), and most initramfs implementations DO interpret the root=parameter. If you specify an initramfs

Re: [gentoo-dev] Global Systemd USE Flag

2012-08-12 Thread Jason A. Donenfeld
On Wed, Aug 8, 2012 at 4:31 PM, Patrick Lauer patr...@gentoo.org wrote: equery f udev | grep udevd /usr/lib/systemd/systemd-udevd And as long as our maintainers refuse to use the proper paths this is just one of the little things that makes life more exciting for us. Can we please add

[gentoo-dev] Re: Questions about SystemD and OpenRC

2012-08-12 Thread Duncan
Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn posted on Sun, 12 Aug 2012 15:43:02 +0200 as excerpted: Rich Freeman schrieb: So, I could see how many linux users might think that interpreting a complex root= parameter is a kernel function, when it is really just the fact that they use an initramfs. If

Re: [gentoo-dev] Kernel calls gcc directly: fine?

2012-08-12 Thread Doug Goldstein
On Sun, Aug 12, 2012 at 9:19 AM, Agostino Sarubbo a...@gentoo.org wrote: If you try to launch make V=1 from the kernel source directory you will see: gcc -Wp,-MD,scripts/mod/.empty.o.d -nostdinc -isystem /usr/lib/gcc/x86_64- pc-linux-gnu/4.5.3/include

[gentoo-dev] Automated Package Removal and Addition Tracker, for the week ending 2012-08-12 23h59 UTC

2012-08-12 Thread Robin H. Johnson
The attached list notes all of the packages that were added or removed from the tree, for the week ending 2012-08-12 23h59 UTC. Removals: net-wireless/iwl1000-ucode 2012-08-06 15:41:29 ulm kde-misc/kdocker2012-08-07 11:48:37 kensington net-misc/ferm

[gentoo-dev] Re: Kernel calls gcc directly: fine?

2012-08-12 Thread Ryan Hill
On Sun, 12 Aug 2012 16:19:59 +0200 Agostino Sarubbo a...@gentoo.org wrote: So it calls gcc directly. I see we don't like gcc called directly from the tracker[1], but this is for packages/ebuild. Should this bug block that tracker or it is invalid? [1]: