[gentoo-dev] Portage sets support Was: Defaulting for debug information in profiles

2012-12-18 Thread Duncan
Zac Medico posted on Mon, 17 Dec 2012 23:31:24 -0800 as excerpted: On 12/17/2012 09:59 PM, Duncan wrote: [1] I long ago filed a bug suggesting a new world-sets line for depclean, but I expect it'll be resolved/fixed about the time sets support finally gets unmasked to ~arch, the status of

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2012-12-18 Thread Markos Chandras
On 17 December 2012 22:13, Peter Stuge pe...@stuge.se wrote: Duncan wrote: Apparently, IRC is a hard requirement. At least the one final evaluation must be done on IRC. I understand why online communication is not everyone's prefered format. I guess that the IRC part of the recruitment is

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-18 Thread Richard Yao
On 12/17/2012 04:31 PM, Greg KH wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 09:03:40PM +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote: Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 09:29:26AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote: As I said in an earlier email, Lennart Poettering claims that it does not work. We are

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-18 Thread Richard Yao
On 12/17/2012 06:23 PM, William Hubbs wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 01:31:59PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 09:03:40PM +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote: Olav Vitters o...@vitters.nl wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 09:29:26AM -0500, Richard Yao wrote: As I said in an earlier email,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-18 Thread Ultrabug
On 17/12/2012 13:15, Dirkjan Ochtman wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 11:23 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu wrote: I would say let's work on that so that portage can keep them there. Although I'm more for /var/cache/portage myself, as both distfiles and tree can be re-generated.

[gentoo-dev] Re: Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2012-12-18 Thread Duncan
Markos Chandras posted on Tue, 18 Dec 2012 08:44:23 + as excerpted: Nowadays, I use google docs ( and I am also open to g+ and skype interviews as well ). So IRC is not an absolute requirement. Thanks. Good to know. -- Duncan - List replies preferred. No HTML msgs. Every nonfree

Re: [gentoo-dev] College Course in Gentoo Development

2012-12-18 Thread Richard Yao
On 12/17/2012 10:32 AM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: Hi everyone, Give the talk on the list about attracting devs, I've should probably mention that I'm teaching a College Course on Gentoo Development next semester. I know two students will most likely go through the recruitment process,

Re: [gentoo-dev] College Course in Gentoo Development

2012-12-18 Thread Richard Yao
On 12/17/2012 07:46 PM, Anthony G. Basile wrote: 2. Write an ebuild for the project above, maintained in an overlay (also on GitHub), with sources fetched from GitHub. Add some small patch to configure.ac in the ebuild. Add USE flags. Add make check support to the build system, test with

Re: [gentoo-dev] Defaulting for debug information in profiles

2012-12-18 Thread Sven Eden
Am Montag, 17. Dezember 2012, 11:48:12 schrieb Walter Dnes: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 01:37:27PM +0100, Sven Eden wrote 1) --- kde-base/kate - Compiled with -ggdb in CFLAGS: # sum=0; for file in $(equery f kde-base/kate | grep \.debug) ; do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: College Course in Gentoo Development

2012-12-18 Thread Kevin Chadwick
People simply don't seem to realize that you can go away and do something else while all that's happening Like servers I prefer build machines to be more secure dedicated build machines without a browser or X, so I expect it's a bit of a barrier for me. Having said that I haven't found the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Defaulting for debug information in profiles

2012-12-18 Thread Marcin Mirosław
W dniu 18.12.2012 12:13, Sven Eden pisze: Am Montag, 17. Dezember 2012, 11:48:12 schrieb Walter Dnes: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 01:37:27PM +0100, Sven Eden wrote 1) --- kde-base/kate - Compiled with -ggdb in CFLAGS: # sum=0; for file in $(equery f kde-base/kate |

Re: [gentoo-dev] Defaulting for debug information in profiles

2012-12-18 Thread Sven Eden
Am Dienstag, 18. Dezember 2012, 12:43:55 schrieb Marcin Mirosław: W dniu 18.12.2012 12:13, Sven Eden pisze: (snip, because this has nothing to do with the previous discussion.) On my 32-bit machines I have... FLAGS=-O2 -march=native -mfpmath=sse -fomit-frame-pointer -pipe

Re: [gentoo-dev] Defaulting for debug information in profiles

2012-12-18 Thread Marcin Mirosław
W dniu 18.12.2012 13:03, Sven Eden pisze: Am Dienstag, 18. Dezember 2012, 12:43:55 schrieb Marcin Mirosław: W dniu 18.12.2012 12:13, Sven Eden pisze: (snip, because this has nothing to do with the previous discussion.) On my 32-bit machines I have... FLAGS=-O2 -march=native

Re: [gentoo-dev] Defaulting for debug information in profiles

2012-12-18 Thread viv...@gmail.com
Il 17/12/2012 11:11, Tomáš Chvátal ha scritto: Hi lads, lately I am having bit of problems from getting relevant debug info from users. Since we already have splitdebug for quite time (and I suppose quite few of us are using it) how about making it to default profiles default enabled and add -g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Portage sets support Was: Defaulting for debug information in profiles

2012-12-18 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/18/2012 12:26 AM, Duncan wrote: Zac Medico posted on Mon, 17 Dec 2012 23:31:24 -0800 as excerpted: On 12/17/2012 09:59 PM, Duncan wrote: [1] I long ago filed a bug suggesting a new world-sets line for depclean, but I expect it'll be resolved/fixed about the time sets support

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-18 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 17/12/12 06:23 PM, William Hubbs wrote: On Mon, Dec 17, 2012 at 01:31:59PM -0800, Greg KH wrote: Can this topic finally be put to rest please? There is a whole web page devoted to this topic, why do people blindly ignore it? This is a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-18 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/17/2012 02:19 AM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: Currently we put portage into /usr/portage and all related stuff is to be in the subfolders there (distfiles, binpkg). I've always myself override these defaults in make.conf to point for /var/portage/ (not /var/lib because I never bothered enough

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-18 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/17/2012 02:19 AM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: Currently we put portage into /usr/portage and all related stuff is to be in the subfolders there (distfiles, binpkg). I've always myself override these defaults in make.conf to point for /var/portage/ (not /var/lib because I never bothered enough

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-18 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 07:50:51AM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Mon, 17 Dec 2012, William Hubbs wrote: This all started with the April 2012 council meeting when it was pushed through that separate /usr without an initramfs is a supported configuration, so yes, the previous council

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-18 Thread Richard Yao
On 12/18/2012 01:45 PM, William Hubbs wrote: On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 07:50:51AM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Mon, 17 Dec 2012, William Hubbs wrote: This all started with the April 2012 council meeting when it was pushed through that separate /usr without an initramfs is a supported

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-18 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 01:51:27PM -0500, Richard Yao wrote: On 12/18/2012 01:45 PM, William Hubbs wrote: On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 07:50:51AM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Mon, 17 Dec 2012, William Hubbs wrote: This all started with the April 2012 council meeting when it was pushed

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-18 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 18/12/12 01:45 PM, William Hubbs wrote: On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 07:50:51AM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Mon, 17 Dec 2012, William Hubbs wrote: This all started with the April 2012 council meeting when it was pushed through that separate

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: eudev project announcement

2012-12-18 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 1:45 PM, William Hubbs willi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 07:50:51AM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: On Mon, 17 Dec 2012, William Hubbs wrote: This all started with the April 2012 council meeting when it was pushed through that separate /usr without an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-18 Thread Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/18/2012 01:38 PM, Zac Medico wrote: On 12/17/2012 02:19 AM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: Currently we put portage into /usr/portage and all related stuff is to be in the subfolders there (distfiles, binpkg). I've always myself override these

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-18 Thread Rick Zero_Chaos Farina
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/18/2012 02:49 PM, Rick Zero_Chaos Farina wrote: On 12/18/2012 01:38 PM, Zac Medico wrote: On 12/17/2012 02:19 AM, Tomáš Chvátal wrote: Currently we put portage into /usr/portage and all related stuff is to be in the subfolders there

Re: [gentoo-dev] Defaulting for debug information in profiles

2012-12-18 Thread Pacho Ramos
El lun, 17-12-2012 a las 08:55 -0500, Rich Freeman escribió: [...] I usually keep a debug file in /etc/portage/env.d and symlink it to anything I'm working on. Rich I do the same, for example, I had end.d files for all evince related packages to get proper backtraces as I was getting

[gentoo-dev] RFC: change of the default value for EHG_REVISION (mercurial.eclass)

2012-12-18 Thread Christoph Junghans
With nelchael's retirement I (with backup from djc) will take over the maintenance of mercurial.eclass. As one of the first things I would like to change the default value of EHG_REVISION. EHG_REVISION defines the revision/branch/tag to be checkout in src_unpack. The current default is tip, which

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-18 Thread Florian D.
Am Mon, 17 Dec 2012 13:45:35 +0100 schrieb Diego Elio Pettenò flamee...@flameeyes.eu: On 17/12/2012 13:42, Ulrich Mueller wrote: If we change the location, can we then move distfiles to some place outside of the tree? Something like: /var/cache/portage /var/cache/distfiles

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: change of the default value for EHG_REVISION (mercurial.eclass)

2012-12-18 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Christoph Junghans ott...@gentoo.org wrote: With nelchael's retirement I (with backup from djc) will take over the maintenance of mercurial.eclass. As one of the first things I would like to change the default value of EHG_REVISION. EHG_REVISION defines the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-18 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
No /var/gentoo. No /var/repositories. /var/db/gentoo, /var/db/repositories, /var/cache/portage ... as long as Zac is fine with one whatever, but let's not invent any new top-level. Diego Elio Pettenò — Flameeyes flamee...@flameeyes.eu — http://blog.flameeyes.eu/ On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 10:20

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-18 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/18/2012 01:33 PM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: No /var/gentoo. No /var/repositories. /var/db/gentoo, /var/db/repositories, /var/cache/portage ... as long as Zac is fine with one whatever, but let's not invent any new top-level. Yeah, /var/db or /var/cache sounds good to me. I would

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: change of the default value for EHG_REVISION (mercurial.eclass)

2012-12-18 Thread Rafael Goncalves Martins
On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 7:31 PM, Mike Gilbert flop...@gentoo.org wrote: On Tue, Dec 18, 2012 at 4:10 PM, Christoph Junghans ott...@gentoo.org wrote: With nelchael's retirement I (with backup from djc) will take over the maintenance of mercurial.eclass. As one of the first things I would like

Re: [gentoo-dev] Attracting developers (Re: Packages up for grabs...)

2012-12-18 Thread Jeroen Roovers
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 10:40:06 +0100 Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: People aren't bothering. It's not because of any fundamental problem -- it's because the process is obscure and potentially a waste of time. I agree with that. The process takes a lot of time for a minor benefit,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Moving our/portage stuff to var

2012-12-18 Thread Joshua Saddler
On Mon, 17 Dec 2012 11:19:20 +0100 Tomáš Chvátal tomas.chva...@gmail.com wrote: Currently we put portage into /usr/portage and all related stuff is to be in the subfolders there (distfiles, binpkg). I've always myself override these defaults in make.conf to point for /var/portage/ (not

[gentoo-dev] Re: Portage sets support Was: Defaulting for debug information in profiles

2012-12-18 Thread Duncan
Zac Medico posted on Tue, 18 Dec 2012 09:58:42 -0800 as excerpted: It's important to clarify that, because /etc/portage/sets (aka GLEP 21 User Sets) has already been supported in stable portage since 2.1.11.9 [1]. I didn't know that. Last I knew, stable portage had special-case acceptance