Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: Gentoo GPG key policies

2013-02-26 Thread grozin
Hello *, I am stuck and have many questions. [In the process of becoming a dev, I've generated a gpg key, of course. It vwas on an old notebook. When I switched to a newer notebook, I forgot to copy it, because I don't use gpg regularly. No risk that it became known - the disk was

[gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Richard Yao
The Blender project found some fairly remarkable discrepancies between what their software actually used and what glibc's ptmalloc allocated: http://www.sintel.org/development/memory-jemalloc/ Results such as these led Blender and others (e.g. Chrome/Chromium, Firefox, Thunderbird) to bundle

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Diego Elio Pettenò
On 26/02/2013 14:33, Richard Yao wrote: Results such as these led Blender and others (e.g. Chrome/Chromium, Firefox, Thunderbird) to bundle private versions of jemalloc. This bundling situation violates our policy against bundled libraries. The maintainers could just patch their software to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Richard Yao
On 02/26/2013 08:35 AM, Diego Elio Pettenò wrote: On 26/02/2013 14:33, Richard Yao wrote: Results such as these led Blender and others (e.g. Chrome/Chromium, Firefox, Thunderbird) to bundle private versions of jemalloc. This bundling situation violates our policy against bundled libraries. The

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Alexander Berntsen
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 26/02/13 14:33, Richard Yao wrote: The Blender project found some fairly remarkable discrepancies between what their software actually used and what glibc's ptmalloc allocated Have they filed a bug? - -- Alexander alexan...@plaimi.net

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Richard Yao
On 02/26/2013 08:48 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: On 26/02/13 14:33, Richard Yao wrote: The Blender project found some fairly remarkable discrepancies between what their software actually used and what glibc's ptmalloc allocated Have they filed a bug? I don't know. You should ask them.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Florian Philipp
Am 26.02.2013 14:52, schrieb Richard Yao: On 02/26/2013 08:48 AM, Alexander Berntsen wrote: On 26/02/13 14:33, Richard Yao wrote: The Blender project found some fairly remarkable discrepancies between what their software actually used and what glibc's ptmalloc allocated Have they filed a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC/PATCH] A cleaner API for virtualx.eclass

2013-02-26 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 12 Feb 2013 18:42:28 +0100 Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: On 2/11/13 11:14 PM, Michał Górny wrote: My patches introduce a single wrapper with argv-as-parameter syntax. That is, the fore-mentioned example would look like: virtualx run_tests --foo Maybe we

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 5:33 AM, Richard Yao r...@gentoo.org wrote: The Blender project found some fairly remarkable discrepancies between what their software actually used and what glibc's ptmalloc allocated: http://www.sintel.org/development/memory-jemalloc/ Results such as these led

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:33 AM, Richard Yao r...@gentoo.org wrote: Unless a significant issue is found in jemalloc itself, I do not see any reason to continue using glibc's ptmalloc over jemalloc. As far as I know, FreeBSD, NetBSD, Facebook and others are using jemalloc, so I expect that no

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: I see a *HUGE* reason. glibc ships with ptmalloc. If you think they should use jemalloc, talk to them. Don't just do it in Gentoo. Certainly I think it would be far more productive to talk to the glibc maintainers first.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: In terms of 'following Gentoo policy.' We encourage packages to be as close to upstream as possible. I cannot fathom why when you basically find a performance bug in malloc, you start a thread on the list about replacing

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Maciej Mrozowski
On Tuesday 26 of February 2013 11:44:31 Rich Freeman wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: I see a *HUGE* reason. glibc ships with ptmalloc. If you think they should use jemalloc, talk to them. Don't just do it in Gentoo. Certainly I think it would

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Jeff Horelick
On 26 February 2013 16:37, Maciej Mrozowski reave...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 26 of February 2013 11:44:31 Rich Freeman wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: I see a *HUGE* reason. glibc ships with ptmalloc. If you think they should use

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Matt Turner
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 1:37 PM, Maciej Mrozowski reave...@gmail.com wrote: On Tuesday 26 of February 2013 11:44:31 Rich Freeman wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:35 AM, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: I see a *HUGE* reason. glibc ships with ptmalloc. If you think they should use

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: app-emacs/yow

2013-02-26 Thread Ulrich Mueller
# Ulrich Müller u...@gentoo.org (26 Feb 2013) # Declared as obsolete by upstream. Use fortune.el with # the zippy file from games-misc/fortune-mod instead. # Masked for removal in 30 days, bug #459358. app-emacs/yow

Re: [gentoo-dev] Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 11:10:09AM -0800, Matt Turner wrote: On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 8:35 AM, Alec Warner anta...@gentoo.org wrote: In terms of 'following Gentoo policy.' We encourage packages to be as close to upstream as possible. I cannot fathom why when you basically find a performance

[gentoo-dev] Gentoo Bugday

2013-02-26 Thread Pavlos Ratis
Hello everyone, I would like to announce you a new try to 'revive' the Bugday event. As most of the open source projects have their own bugday, I thought it would be great to have this event back. For those who don't know, its a monthly 24h event that takes place in #gentoo-bugs. Its goal is to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo Bugday

2013-02-26 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 2/26/13 4:39 PM, Pavlos Ratis wrote: I would like to announce you a new try to 'revive' the Bugday event. This is excellent! Thank you for your work on this. I have listed some maintainer-wanted and maintainer-need bugs and Bugzilla admins also re-enabled the bugday flag. I would like to

[gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Bugday

2013-02-26 Thread Michael Palimaka
On 27/02/2013 11:39, Pavlos Ratis wrote: Hello everyone, I would like to announce you a new try to 'revive' the Bugday event. As most of the open source projects have their own bugday, I thought it would be great to have this event back. For those who don't know, its a monthly 24h event that

[gentoo-dev] Re: Evaluating a new malloc()

2013-02-26 Thread Ryan Hill
On Tue, 26 Feb 2013 08:33:44 -0500 Richard Yao r...@gentoo.org wrote: With that said, what do people think? I think I see a lot of our upstream bug reports being closed as invalid/unsupported. I think that if upstreams wanted to use jemalloc they would just do so. If they don't then obviously

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo Bugday

2013-02-26 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Feb 26, 2013 at 7:14 PM, Michael Palimaka kensing...@gentoo.org wrote: On 27/02/2013 11:39, Pavlos Ratis wrote: Hello everyone, I would like to announce you a new try to 'revive' the Bugday event. As most of the open source projects have their own bugday, I thought it would be great