Re: [gentoo-dev] markdown docs like README.md

2013-09-24 Thread Martin Gysel
Am 24.09.2013 19:49, schrieb hasufell: > I wonder if it would make any sense to take the effort to convert > markdown docs to html format before installing them. > following that logic we should also consider converting all man and info pages to html... it doesn't make any sense... simply provid

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: initramfs required on Linux systems with separate /usr

2013-09-24 Thread William Hubbs
On Wed, Sep 25, 2013 at 02:55:49AM +0200, Tom Wijsman wrote: > Makes me wonder if the "Why?" question should be left unanswered; I'm > also not quite sure if we can produce a short answer, can the actual > problem be summarized in one short clear sentence at all? I will try, but not in this thread

Re: [gentoo-dev] markdown docs like README.md

2013-09-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 25 September 2013 12:33, Tom Wijsman wrote: > The existence of a tool does not exclude that an ebuild cannot use it; > so, I agree with your paragraph but that doesn't necessarily mean we can > apply this in an ebuild context. > I guess I can agree I would be amenable to a scenario where you

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: initramfs required on Linux systems with separate /usr

2013-09-24 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 19:57:22 -0400 Rich Freeman wrote: > > Then go on like: > > > > This decision has been taken because of [problem]; you can read > > more about that in [article/mail references]." > > -- > > I wouldn't go too much into the why. I'd focus on the what and in > particul

Re: [gentoo-dev] markdown docs like README.md

2013-09-24 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 11:27:50 +1200 Kent Fredric wrote: > On 25 September 2013 10:30, Tom Wijsman wrote: > > > If I want to browse all documentation with a browser, just going to > > something like file:///usr/share/doc and read them all in the same > > style (using an extension like Stylebot or

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: initramfs required on Linux systems with separate /usr

2013-09-24 Thread Rich Freeman
On Tue, Sep 24, 2013 at 6:13 PM, Tom Wijsman wrote: > So, something along the lines of: > > Linux systems with /usr on a separate file system that do not use > an initramfs will become unsupported, starting on 01-Nov-2013. > ++ > Then go on like: > > This decision has been taken beca

Re: [gentoo-dev] markdown docs like README.md

2013-09-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 25 September 2013 10:30, Tom Wijsman wrote: > If I want to browse all documentation with a browser, just going to > something like file:///usr/share/doc and read them all in the same > style (using an extension like Stylebot or so); then it would be neat > if Gentoo could bring them down to th

Re: [gentoo-dev] markdown docs like README.md

2013-09-24 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Wed, 25 Sep 2013 00:07:15 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2013-09-24, o godz. 23:50:20 > Tom Wijsman napisał(a): > > > Principle or not, we shouldn't force our users down a particular > > way to reading them; as that's not what our meta-distribution > > stands for. > > We shouldn't either

Re: [gentoo-dev] newsitem: initramfs required on Linux systems with separate /usr

2013-09-24 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 16:43:22 -0500 William Hubbs wrote: > Title: Separate /usr on Linux requires initramfs > Author: William Hubbs > Content-Type: text/plain > Posted: 2013-09-27 > Revision: 1 > News-Item-Format: 1.0 > > In the meeting on 24-Sep-2013, the Gentoo Council agreed that all > prepar

Re: [gentoo-dev] markdown docs like README.md

2013-09-24 Thread heroxbd
hasufell writes: > I wonder if it would make any sense to take the effort to convert > markdown docs to html format before installing them. I'd rather leave it alone, as markdown is more readable than html, IMHO. Anyway, when we read html in the console, it's converted back to plan text.

Re: [gentoo-dev] markdown docs like README.md

2013-09-24 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-09-24, o godz. 23:50:20 Tom Wijsman napisał(a): > On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:15:15 +0200 > Michał Górny wrote: > > > Dnia 2013-09-24, o godz. 19:49:33 > > hasufell napisał(a): > > > > > I wonder if it would make any sense to take the effort to convert > > > markdown docs to html format

Re: [gentoo-dev] markdown docs like README.md

2013-09-24 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 22:15:15 +0200 Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2013-09-24, o godz. 19:49:33 > hasufell napisał(a): > > > I wonder if it would make any sense to take the effort to convert > > markdown docs to html format before installing them. > > What for? The point of markups like Markdown is

[gentoo-dev] newsitem: initramfs required on Linux systems with separate /usr

2013-09-24 Thread William Hubbs
All, In the meeting today (24-Sep-2013), the council agreed that all preparations for dropping support for Linux systems with /usr on a separate file system that do not use an initramfs are complete. I am submitting this news item for review, and I plan to commit it on 2013-09-27 if there are no

Re: [gentoo-dev] markdown docs like README.md

2013-09-24 Thread Tom Wijsman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 18:56:33 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > hasufell wrote: > > I wonder if it would make any sense to take the effort to convert > > markdown docs to html format before installing them. > > Aren't there thirty seven different incom

Re: [gentoo-dev] Move m68k, sh, s390 to ~arch

2013-09-24 Thread Andreas K. Huettel
Am Dienstag, 24. September 2013, 21:07:26 schrieb Markos Chandras: > On 09/24/2013 07:28 PM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote: > > On 09/23/2013 22:41, Markos Chandras wrote: > >> (unless of course you want to increase your number of cvs commits > >> which is a worrying argument on its own) > > > > 11:16 #g

Re: [gentoo-dev] Move m68k, sh, s390 to ~arch

2013-09-24 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 24-09-2013 a las 22:38 +0200, Andreas K. Huettel escribió: > Am Dienstag, 24. September 2013, 21:07:26 schrieb Markos Chandras: > > On 09/24/2013 07:28 PM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote: > > > On 09/23/2013 22:41, Markos Chandras wrote: > > >> (unless of course you want to increase your number of

Re: [gentoo-dev] markdown docs like README.md

2013-09-24 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 09/24/2013 10:15 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > Dnia 2013-09-24, o godz. 19:49:33 hasufell > napisał(a): > >> I wonder if it would make any sense to take the effort to >> convert markdown docs to html format before installing them. > > What for? The p

Re: [gentoo-dev] markdown docs like README.md

2013-09-24 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-09-24, o godz. 19:49:33 hasufell napisał(a): > I wonder if it would make any sense to take the effort to convert > markdown docs to html format before installing them. What for? The point of markups like Markdown is for the text to be readable as plain text. Converting it to HTML goes

Re: [gentoo-dev] markdown docs like README.md

2013-09-24 Thread Tom Wijsman
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 19:49:33 +0200 hasufell wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > Hash: SHA1 > > I wonder if it would make any sense to take the effort to convert > markdown docs to html format before installing them. Converting them to HTM

Re: [gentoo-dev] Move m68k, sh, s390 to ~arch

2013-09-24 Thread Markos Chandras
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 On 09/24/2013 07:28 PM, Agostino Sarubbo wrote: > On 09/23/2013 22:41, Markos Chandras wrote: >> (unless of course you want to increase your number of cvs commits >> which is a worrying argument on its own) > > 11:16 #gentoo-bugs: <+bonsaikitten> ag

Re: [gentoo-dev] does v8 shared library make sense with current upstream approach?

2013-09-24 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 9/22/13 5:24 PM, Peter Stuge wrote: > "Paweł Hajdan, Jr." wrote: >> "compiling with versions of v8 other than what is included is not >> currently supported." > .. >> For now V8 upstream gives no guarantees about API/ABI stability and >> actually breaks it very often > > I agree that it isn't w

Re: [gentoo-dev] Move m68k, sh, s390 to ~arch

2013-09-24 Thread Agostino Sarubbo
On 09/23/2013 22:41, Markos Chandras wrote: > (unless of course you want to increase your number of cvs commits which > is a worrying argument on its own) 11:16 #gentoo-bugs: <+bonsaikitten> ago: do me a favour and de-keyword all affected packages for s390 Also, nobody give me an award for the c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: status of OpenRC's public API

2013-09-24 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 24/09/13 02:15 PM, William Hubbs wrote: > On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 03:21:07PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: >> Out of curiosity, what is the reasoning behind making these libs >> private? > > Well, the thought has changed slightly. librc can't be

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: status of OpenRC's public API

2013-09-24 Thread William Hubbs
On Sat, Sep 21, 2013 at 03:21:07PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: > -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- > IIRC we still don't have an openrc-replacement script in the tree for > the /etc/init.d/function.sh symlink to target. Since libeinfo is > already public, why not instead of making it private w

Re: [gentoo-dev] markdown docs like README.md

2013-09-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 24 Sep 2013 19:49:33 +0200 hasufell wrote: > I wonder if it would make any sense to take the effort to convert > markdown docs to html format before installing them. Aren't there thirty seven different incompatible formats all called "markdow

[gentoo-dev] markdown docs like README.md

2013-09-24 Thread hasufell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 I wonder if it would make any sense to take the effort to convert markdown docs to html format before installing them. I see two possibilities: 1. Create one or two eutils functions like "domd": will go through all viable implementations like markdow

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCHES] Sub-phase functions in autotools-utils & autotools-multilib

2013-09-24 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2013-09-24, o godz. 01:40:58 Greg Turner napisał(a): > On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > > > We have four active Gentoo developers in the team and one very helpful > > user. Plus a number of developers who are working in their narrow areas > > and supporting us indire

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCHES] Sub-phase functions in autotools-utils & autotools-multilib

2013-09-24 Thread Greg Turner
On Mon, Sep 23, 2013 at 2:16 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > We have four active Gentoo developers in the team and one very helpful > user. Plus a number of developers who are working in their narrow areas > and supporting us indirectly. That's more than I expected, > and the project has bright future

Re: [gentoo-dev] News item: m68k, s390, and sh are dropping stable keywords

2013-09-24 Thread Sergey Popov
23.09.2013 22:29, Markos Chandras пишет: > On 09/23/2013 03:07 PM, Alexis Ballier wrote: >> >> we have 'stable', 'dev' and 'exp'; the difference between 'dev' and >> 'exp' is unclear to me. it could be changed so that broken deps in >> 'dev' profiles are a repoman error (without -d) but without sta