[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Banning modification of pkg-config files

2014-05-15 Thread Steven J. Long
On Sat, May 10, 2014, Rich Freeman wrote: On Sat, May 10, 2014, hasufell wrote: Longterm, this makes it year after year more difficult to develop software for Linux. Instead (like valve), people start to develop for certain distros only (like Ubuntu), because it's just too much work to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: The gx86-multilib project needs your help! (+ roadmap reminder)

2014-05-15 Thread Pacho Ramos
El mar, 13-05-2014 a las 15:23 -0400, Ian Stakenvicius escribió: On 13/05/14 03:19 PM, Pacho Ramos wrote: El dom, 11-05-2014 a las 20:56 +0200, Michał Górny escribió: [...] 4. whenever possible, depend on the specific subslot that is known to provide SONAME equal to the required by your

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages looking for new maintainers.

2014-05-15 Thread Sergey Popov
08.05.2014 08:07, Alex Alexander пишет: x11-misc/whaw Took this one, really neat and simple tool! -- Best regards, Sergey Popov Gentoo developer Gentoo Desktop Effects project lead Gentoo Qt project lead Gentoo Proxy maintainers project lead signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Banning modification of pkg-config files

2014-05-15 Thread hasufell
It's called keeping status quo.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: enabling ipc-sandbox network-sandbox by default

2014-05-15 Thread Thomas D.
Hi, Ryan Hill wrote: Probably best to make FEATURES=distcc disable network-sandbox then. People enabling it are explicitly saying they want to access the network. Do you really think it is a good behavior to automatically disable something you can call a security feature? At least there

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: enabling ipc-sandbox network-sandbox by default

2014-05-15 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 4:12 AM, Thomas D. whi...@whissi.de wrote: Hi, Ryan Hill wrote: Probably best to make FEATURES=distcc disable network-sandbox then. People enabling it are explicitly saying they want to access the network. Do you really think it is a good behavior to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: enabling ipc-sandbox network-sandbox by default

2014-05-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 15 May 2014 13:12:30 +0200 Thomas D. whi...@whissi.de wrote: Ryan Hill wrote: Probably best to make FEATURES=distcc disable network-sandbox then. People enabling it are explicitly saying they want to access the network. Do you really think it is a good behavior to automatically

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: enabling ipc-sandbox network-sandbox by default

2014-05-15 Thread Luis Ressel
On Thu, 15 May 2014 16:48:24 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: Sandboxing isn't about security. It's about catching mistakes. Ciaran has a point here. Thomas, you assumed that network-sandbox is the only thing stopping an ebuild from accessing local services or the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: enabling ipc-sandbox network-sandbox by default

2014-05-15 Thread hasufell
Ciaran McCreesh: Sandboxing isn't about security. Sure it is.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: enabling ipc-sandbox network-sandbox by default

2014-05-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 15 May 2014 17:15:32 + hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: Ciaran McCreesh: Sandboxing isn't about security. Sure it is. Then where do the bug reports for all the security violations possible with sandbox go? -- Ciaran McCreesh signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: enabling ipc-sandbox network-sandbox by default

2014-05-15 Thread Thomas D.
Hi, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Sandboxing isn't about security. It's about catching mistakes. From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox_%28computer_security%29): In computer security, a sandbox is a security mechanism for separating running programs. It is often used to execute

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: enabling ipc-sandbox network-sandbox by default

2014-05-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 15 May 2014 20:35:41 +0200 Thomas D. whi...@whissi.de wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Sandboxing isn't about security. It's about catching mistakes. From Wikipedia (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sandbox_%28computer_security%29): In computer security, a sandbox is a security mechanism

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: enabling ipc-sandbox network-sandbox by default

2014-05-15 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, 15 May 2014 17:15:32 + hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: Ciaran McCreesh: Sandboxing isn't about security. Sure it is. Then where do the bug reports for all the security violations

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: enabling ipc-sandbox network-sandbox by default

2014-05-15 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 15 May 2014 14:44:58 -0400 Mike Gilbert flop...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, 15 May 2014 17:15:32 + hasufell hasuf...@gentoo.org wrote: Ciaran McCreesh: Sandboxing isn't about security.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: enabling ipc-sandbox network-sandbox by default

2014-05-15 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, 15 May 2014 14:44:58 -0400 Mike Gilbert flop...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, 15 May 2014 17:15:32 +

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: enabling ipc-sandbox network-sandbox by default

2014-05-15 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 12:01 PM, Mike Gilbert flop...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 2:48 PM, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Thu, 15 May 2014 14:44:58 -0400 Mike Gilbert flop...@gentoo.org wrote: On Thu, May 15, 2014 at 1:17 PM, Ciaran McCreesh

[gentoo-dev] Re: Adding -l (--ignore-whitespace) to EPATCH_COMMON_OPTS

2014-05-15 Thread Ryan Hill
On Thu, 15 May 2014 07:21:58 +0200 Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, 14 May 2014, Ryan Hill wrote: I'm a lazy bum and I'm tired of rebasing patches that fail due to whitespace. Is this doable or would it make the universe explode? Please don't. There are languages where