[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: News item for net-firewall/shorewall all-in-one package migration

2015-04-04 Thread Duncan
Thomas D. posted on Sat, 04 Apr 2015 22:09:36 +0200 as excerpted: Title: New net-firewall/shorewall all-in-one package $ echo New net-firewall/shorewall all-in-one package | wc -c 46 The glep says the title must be 44 chars, max. You're over by a couple chars. Abbreviating package to pkg

[gentoo-dev] New website: Where the .... is the ....ing documentation link?

2015-04-04 Thread Duncan
TL;DR: (1) Please consider either making Documentation a top-level-menu link (preferable), or at least change Support to Support and Documentation. (2) On the documentation lander page, add a one big list link to a browser-keyword-searchable list of docs, like the old docs project page had.

Re: [gentoo-dev] libressl status

2015-04-04 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 01:59:25AM +0200, Hanno Böck wrote: Tricky thing here, because then you'd need to rename the libs. E.g. libssl to liblibressl or something. But then every program with a build environment to link to libssl would first have to be patched to link to our specialized

Re: [gentoo-dev] libressl status

2015-04-04 Thread Paul B. Henson
On Fri, Apr 03, 2015 at 01:31:53PM +0200, hasufell wrote: Not anymore. We will go for libressl USE flag for the same reason there is a libav USE flag now (working subslots etc). Um, ok. That still only allows one or the other to be installed though, right? So if you want a package that only

[gentoo-portage-dev] Re: Dynamic USE dependencies

2015-04-04 Thread Duncan
Brian Dolbec posted on Fri, 03 Apr 2015 06:31:27 -0700 as excerpted: On Fri, 3 Apr 2015 11:52:39 + (UTC) Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Brian Dolbec posted on Thu, 02 Apr 2015 23:59:06 -0700 as excerpted: enalyze is little known to users. I'd never heard of enalyze before

Re: [gentoo-portage-dev] Dynamic USE dependencies

2015-04-04 Thread Zac Medico
On 04/02/2015 09:32 AM, Rich Freeman wrote: Out of curiosity, what is keeping us from having USE flag dependencies handled dynamically, in the same way that package dependencies are? If portage can figure out that I need libxml2 installed even if I don't put it in /var/lib/portage/world, why

Re: [gentoo-dev] New website: Where the .... is the ....ing documentation link?

2015-04-04 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 04/04/2015 09:42 PM, Duncan wrote: TL;DR: (1) Please consider either making Documentation a top-level-menu link (preferable), or at least change Support to Support and Documentation. (2) On the documentation lander page, add a one big list link to a browser-keyword-searchable list of

[gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: extending pkgmove (slotmove) actions to apply transitionally to ebuilds

2015-04-04 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Sat, 4 Apr 2015, Michał Górny wrote: The problem --- Package moves (and slot moves) are currently a three part process: 1. committing the package under the new name (slot), and removing the old files, Actually, you shouldn't remove the old package at this point because it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: extending pkgmove (slotmove) actions to apply transitionally to ebuilds

2015-04-04 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-04-04, o godz. 20:14:21 Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Sat, 4 Apr 2015, Michał Górny wrote: The problem --- Package moves (and slot moves) are currently a three part process: 1. committing the package under the new name (slot), and removing

[gentoo-dev] shouldn't eselect be in app-eselect ?

2015-04-04 Thread Philip Webb
I read the recent thread re the new app-eselect. Doing my weekly system update, it strikes me that 'eselect' itself sb there too. Time to paint the bikesheds again ... (smile) -- ,, SUPPORT ___//___, Philip Webb

Re: [gentoo-dev] shouldn't eselect be in app-eselect ?

2015-04-04 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 04/04/2015 02:41 PM, Philip Webb wrote: I read the recent thread re the new app-eselect. Doing my weekly system update, it strikes me that 'eselect' itself sb there too. Time to paint the bikesheds again ... (smile) This is consistent with a lot of other stuff. For example, emacs is

Re: [gentoo-dev] shouldn't eselect be in app-eselect ?

2015-04-04 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-04-04, o godz. 13:47:47 Alex Brandt alund...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Saturday, April 04, 2015 14:41:37 Philip Webb wrote: I read the recent thread re the new app-eselect. Doing my weekly system update, it strikes me that 'eselect' itself sb there too. Time to paint the

Re: [gentoo-dev] shouldn't eselect be in app-eselect ?

2015-04-04 Thread Alex Brandt
On Saturday, April 04, 2015 14:41:37 Philip Webb wrote: I read the recent thread re the new app-eselect. Doing my weekly system update, it strikes me that 'eselect' itself sb there too. Time to paint the bikesheds again ... (smile) I don't disagree but will simply point out that if this

[gentoo-dev] RFC: extending pkgmove (slotmove) actions to apply transitionally to ebuilds

2015-04-04 Thread Michał Górny
Hello, everyone. I'd like to suggest extending the pkgmove (slotmove) action code a little bit to reduce the amount of issues hit by users during the transition period following package moves. Please read on and let me know what you think. The problem --- Package moves (and slot moves)

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: News item for net-firewall/shorewall all-in-one package migration

2015-04-04 Thread Daniel Campbell
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 04/04/2015 01:09 PM, Thomas D. wrote: Hi, some of you maybe know or already have noticed that the net-firewall/shorewall* ebuilds were re-integrated into a new all-in-one ebuild for easier maintenance. The package is proxy-maintained.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: extending pkgmove (slotmove) actions to apply transitionally to ebuilds

2015-04-04 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Sat, 4 Apr 2015, Michał Górny wrote: This is not true for slotmoves. The previous slot can be reused by versions not matching the dependency spec of the move. One can even move some versions to a new slot, while leaving others in the old one. For example, you could have

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: RFC: extending pkgmove (slotmove) actions to apply transitionally to ebuilds

2015-04-04 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-04-04, o godz. 21:36:37 Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Sat, 4 Apr 2015, Michał Górny wrote: This is not true for slotmoves. The previous slot can be reused by versions not matching the dependency spec of the move. One can even move some versions to a new slot,

Re: [gentoo-dev] shouldn't eselect be in app-eselect ?

2015-04-04 Thread Gordon Pettey
On Sat, Apr 4, 2015 at 1:49 PM, Michał Górny mgo...@gentoo.org wrote: Dnia 2015-04-04, o godz. 13:47:47 Alex Brandt alund...@gentoo.org napisał(a): I don't disagree but will simply point out that if this becomes true, we should also move dev-lang/python to dev-python, dev-lang/ruby to

Re: [gentoo-dev] shouldn't eselect be in app-eselect ?

2015-04-04 Thread Philip Webb
150404 Alex Brandt wrote: On Saturday, April 04, 2015 14:41:37 Philip Webb wrote: I read the recent thread re the new app-eselect. Doing my weekly system update, it strikes me that 'eselect' itself sb there too. Time to paint the bikesheds again ... (smile) I don't disagree but will simply

[gentoo-dev] RFC: News item for net-firewall/shorewall all-in-one package migration

2015-04-04 Thread Thomas D.
Hi, some of you maybe know or already have noticed that the net-firewall/shorewall* ebuilds were re-integrated into a new all-in-one ebuild for easier maintenance. The package is proxy-maintained. While preparing the new ebuild I discussed with the proxy-maint team and shorewall users if we

Re: [gentoo-dev] shouldn't eselect be in app-eselect ?

2015-04-04 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Sat, 4 Apr 2015, Philip Webb wrote: 150404 Alex Brandt wrote: On Saturday, April 04, 2015 14:41:37 Philip Webb wrote: I read the recent thread re the new app-eselect. Doing my weekly system update, it strikes me that 'eselect' itself sb there too. Time to paint the bikesheds again ...