[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: openrc c api (librc) usage

2015-12-15 Thread Duncan
Mike Frysinger posted on Tue, 15 Dec 2015 00:00:51 -0500 as excerpted: > On 10 Dec 2015 10:32, William Hubbs wrote: >> I want to start a discussion about the usage of OpenRC's C api as >> defined in rc.h. > > very few projects ever picked up the API/libraries. probably for the > best. > >> I ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

2015-12-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 15 Dec 2015 20:23, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > On 12/15/15 4:55 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On 15 Dec 2015 22:35, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >> Whatever the format will be, the more important question is where this > >> would be implemented: > >> > >> - In the package manager, with user and group

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

2015-12-15 Thread Anthony G. Basile
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/15/15 4:55 PM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On 15 Dec 2015 22:35, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> Whatever the format will be, the more important question is where this >> would be implemented: >> >> - In the package manager, with user and group definition

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

2015-12-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 15 Dec 2015 22:35, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > Whatever the format will be, the more important question is where this > would be implemented: > > - In the package manager, with user and group definition in profiles. > This seems to be what GLEP 27 suggests, and as far as I can see, it > would r

[gentoo-dev] Last rites: dev-lisp/cl-clx

2015-12-15 Thread Chema Alonso
# Jos?? Mar??a Alonso Josa (15 Dec 2015) # Refers to same package as dev-lisp/clx # Masked for removal in 30 days, bug 568188 dev-lisp/cl-clx

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

2015-12-15 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On 15 Dec 2015 15:56, Ulrich Mueller wrote: >> ESR's case study about the password file format seems to disagree: >> http://www.catb.org/esr/writings/taoup/html/ch05s01.html#id2901332 > because you cited it, i read it anyways. that document is a

Re: [gentoo-dev] rfc: OpenRC public API definition

2015-12-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 03 Dec 2015 11:36, William Hubbs wrote: > 1) All definitions in rc.h, even though they are not formally documented > in man pages. this. if it's not meant to be public, it should have been in librc.h or a similar internal header. > I'm bringing this up, because I am looking at redesigning one

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

2015-12-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 15 Dec 2015 15:56, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > a flat text file akin to /etc/passwd is not readable. xml is readable. > > ESR's case study about the password file format seems to disagree: > http://www.catb.org/esr/writings/taoup/html/ch05s01

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: converting copyright/license information in OpenRC

2015-12-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 15 Dec 2015 13:37, William Hubbs wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 02:24:22PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > your description sounds like you want to run: > > s/Copyright .*/Copyright OpenRC Authors/ > > > > i'm saying you can't do that > > That's the first part, the second part is to hav

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: converting copyright/license information in OpenRC

2015-12-15 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 02:24:22PM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On 15 Dec 2015 09:31, William Hubbs wrote: > > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 12:05:07AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On 11 Dec 2015 14:16, Patrick McLean wrote: > > > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2015 15:37:48 -0600 William Hubbs wrote: > > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: converting copyright/license information in OpenRC

2015-12-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 15 Dec 2015 09:31, William Hubbs wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 12:05:07AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On 11 Dec 2015 14:16, Patrick McLean wrote: > > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2015 15:37:48 -0600 William Hubbs wrote: > > > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 09:04:47PM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

2015-12-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 15 Dec 2015 10:35, Alec Warner wrote: > On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > a flat text file akin to /etc/passwd is not readable. xml is readable. > > u trollin' bro? in this domain, it's harder to screw up xml and not notice (either human or machine) whereas it's prett

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

2015-12-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 15 Dec 2015 10:24, Anthony G. Basile wrote: > i looked through portage code and we do have xml parsing sprinkled > throughout, mostly in repoman for obvious reasons. why are we trying to > avoid xml? to be honest i don't have strong feelings about either the > flat file (a la /etc/passwd) or x

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

2015-12-15 Thread Alec Warner
On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 6:19 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On 15 Dec 2015 07:28, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > > On 14 Dec 2015 21:22, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > >> The spec seems incomplete. I cannot find a description of the user and > > >> grou

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: converting copyright/license information in OpenRC

2015-12-15 Thread William Hubbs
On Tue, Dec 15, 2015 at 12:05:07AM -0500, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On 11 Dec 2015 14:16, Patrick McLean wrote: > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2015 15:37:48 -0600 William Hubbs wrote: > > > On Fri, Dec 11, 2015 at 09:04:47PM +0100, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > > > On Fri, 11 Dec 2015, William Hubbs wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

2015-12-15 Thread Anthony G. Basile
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 12/15/15 10:08 AM, Mike Frysinger wrote: > On 15 Dec 2015 15:33, Michał Górny wrote: >> On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:19:36 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: >>> On 15 Dec 2015 07:28, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

2015-12-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 15 Dec 2015 15:56, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > a flat text file akin to /etc/passwd is not readable. xml is readable. > > ESR's case study about the password file format seems to disagree: > http://www.catb.org/esr/writings/taoup/html/ch05s01

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

2015-12-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 15 Dec 2015 15:33, Michał Górny wrote: > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:19:36 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > > On 15 Dec 2015 07:28, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > > > > On 14 Dec 2015 21:22, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > >> The spec seems incomp

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

2015-12-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 15 Dec 2015 16:00, Michał Górny wrote: > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 15:56:34 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > > a flat text file akin to /etc/passwd is not readable. xml is readable. > > > > ESR's case study about the password file format s

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

2015-12-15 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 15:56:34 +0100 Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > a flat text file akin to /etc/passwd is not readable. xml is readable. > > ESR's case study about the password file format seems to disagree: > http://www.catb.org/esr/writings

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

2015-12-15 Thread Ulrich Mueller
> On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: > a flat text file akin to /etc/passwd is not readable. xml is readable. ESR's case study about the password file format seems to disagree: http://www.catb.org/esr/writings/taoup/html/ch05s01.html#id2901332 I think the name:password:uid:gid:gecos

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

2015-12-15 Thread Michał Górny
On Tue, 15 Dec 2015 09:19:36 -0500 Mike Frysinger wrote: > On 15 Dec 2015 07:28, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > > > On 14 Dec 2015 21:22, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > >> The spec seems incomplete. I cannot find a description of the user and >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Use GLEP27!

2015-12-15 Thread Mike Frysinger
On 15 Dec 2015 07:28, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > > On Tue, 15 Dec 2015, Mike Frysinger wrote: > > > On 14 Dec 2015 21:22, Ulrich Mueller wrote: > >> The spec seems incomplete. I cannot find a description of the user and > >> group files' format. (But in fact, there is a standard format which > >>

[gentoo-dev] New Project: C++

2015-12-15 Thread Sergey Popov
Hi. I would like to announce creation of a new project - Gentoo C++. Well, it's not really new, it made mostly because of recent events around GLEP 67. We have cpp herd in Gentoo for ages, so it would be nice to not let it bitrot when herds will be deprecated. I took the liberty to create project