Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

On 06/02/2016 08:08 AM, Raymond Jennings wrote: > use case: Telling a package to build a gui without deciding which one > to build. Also helps in cases where you have package A that can only > build a qt gui, and package B that can build both qt and gtk, and > package C that can build gtk only.

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

On 06/02/2016 02:55 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: > On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: >> To play devil's advocate, can we get a citation on "users don't want to >> care"? Which users? Does Gentoo have a lot of users who don't care, or >> does it attract a more

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 5:27 PM, Daniel Campbell wrote: > To play devil's advocate, can we get a citation on "users don't want to > care"? Which users? Does Gentoo have a lot of users who don't care, or > does it attract a more passionate audience that enjoys the control that >

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

On 06/02/2016 01:46 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 16:37:58 -0400 > waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > >> On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 04:25:07PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote >>> On 02/06/16 03:42 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 09:31:11AM -0400, Damien Levac

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 5:20 PM, Igor Savlook wrote: > Ok if i want just disable gtk i use USE="-gtk -gtk2 -gtk3". > And that is fine if your goal is to disable gtk. Most people don't have goals like this - their goal is probably to prefer qt, not to disable gtk, and so

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

On 06/02/2016 12:57 PM, Damien Levac wrote: > > > On 2016-06-02 03:42 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: >> On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 09:31:11AM -0400, Damien Levac wrote >>> IMHO, you see this in reverse. the 'gui' useflag would be useful for >>> users who don't want to care about X/wayland/mir and

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

On Thu, Jun 2, 2016 at 4:46 PM, Michał Górny wrote: > > We understand that some people have goals like 'I want Qt everywhere, > I hate GTK+ so much I'd rather not be able to do anything than have > GTK+ on my system'. We respect them. But we're no longer going to > optimize

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

On 06/02/16 23:46, Michał Górny wrote: On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 16:37:58 -0400 waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 04:25:07PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote On 02/06/16 03:42 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 09:31:11AM -0400, Damien Levac wrote IMHO, you

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

On Thu, 2 Jun 2016 16:37:58 -0400 waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 04:25:07PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote > > On 02/06/16 03:42 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > > > On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 09:31:11AM -0400, Damien Levac wrote > > >> > > >> IMHO, you see this in

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Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 04:25:07PM -0400, Ian Stakenvicius wrote > On 02/06/16 03:42 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > > On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 09:31:11AM -0400, Damien Levac wrote > >> > >> IMHO, you see this in reverse. the 'gui' useflag would be useful for > >> users who don't want to care

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

On 02/06/16 03:42 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 09:31:11AM -0400, Damien Levac wrote >> >> IMHO, you see this in reverse. the 'gui' useflag would be useful for >> users who don't want to care about X/wayland/mir and do not want to care >> about gtk/qt, they just want

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

On 2016-06-02 03:42 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 09:31:11AM -0400, Damien Levac wrote IMHO, you see this in reverse. the 'gui' useflag would be useful for users who don't want to care about X/wayland/mir and do not want to care about gtk/qt, they just want windows

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 09:31:11AM -0400, Damien Levac wrote > > IMHO, you see this in reverse. the 'gui' useflag would be useful for > users who don't want to care about X/wayland/mir and do not want to care > about gtk/qt, they just want windows to be drawn for the applications > they

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

On Thu, Jun 02, 2016 at 06:50:59AM +0100, Graham Murray wrote > waltd...@waltdnes.org writes: > > > Let me re-phrase my question... is there *ANY* set of circumstances > > under which any of X/xorg/wayland/mir/qt4/qt5/gtk2/gtk3/fltk USE flag > > can be set for a package *WITHOUT* requiring a

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

use case: Telling a package to build a gui without deciding which one to build. Also helps in cases where you have package A that can only build a qt gui, and package B that can build both qt and gtk, and package C that can build gtk only. You want to have a gui for all three, but you don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

On 02/06/16 11:42 AM, james wrote: > On 06/01/2016 06:20 PM, Justin Bronder wrote: >> Due to a lack of time and the fact I don't use any of these packages >> anymore, they are all up for grabs. >> >> - media-gfx/openmesh [no project] >> - sys-cluster/ganglia [cluster] >> -

Re: [gentoo-dev] Packages up for grabs

On 06/01/2016 06:20 PM, Justin Bronder wrote: > Due to a lack of time and the fact I don't use any of these packages > anymore, they are all up for grabs. > > - media-gfx/openmesh [no project] > - sys-cluster/ganglia [cluster] > - sys-cluster/ganglia-web [cluster] > -

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

On 01/06/16 10:13 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: > On Wed, Jun 01, 2016 at 07:56:41PM +0200, Micha?? Górny wrote > >> waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: >> >>> I see this as at least a redundancy, if not a problem. First, let's >>> look at the general case. An optional "UI" (User Interface) is

Re: [gentoo-dev] [RFC] Global USE=gui

On 2016-06-01 10:13 PM, waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 01, 2016 at 07:56:41PM +0200, Micha?? Górny wrote waltd...@waltdnes.org wrote: I see this as at least a redundancy, if not a problem. First, let's look at the general case. An optional "UI" (User Interface) is also

Re: [gentoo-dev] [PATCH 1/2] php-ext-source-r3.eclass: new revision supporting EAPI=6.

Thanks for the detailed review. I followed every suggestion except the doexe thing for *.so files (only because I don't understand the reasoning yet). The new version is attached. On 06/01/2016 01:47 PM, Michał Górny wrote: >> +DEPEND=">=sys-devel/m4-1.4.3 >> +