Re: [gentoo-dev] Resignation

2007-04-17 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 16:01:46 Jakub Moc wrote: So  Since devrel has been so kind and suspended me, based on our brand new CoC, I don't feel any need to stay on this project any more. I'm therefore resigning from this project. I would be grateful if somebody could refer me to the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Resignation

2007-04-17 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 22:32:34 Christian Faulhammer wrote: Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED]: On Tuesday 17 April 2007 16:01:46 Jakub Moc wrote: So  Since devrel has been so kind and suspended me, based on our brand new CoC, I don't feel any need to stay on this project any

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Resignation

2007-04-17 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 23:42:36 Wernfried Haas wrote: On Tue, Apr 17, 2007 at 11:35:01PM +1200, Christopher Sawtell wrote: I just hope we are not going to get overly 'precious' about this CoC thing, which btw, I note contains the colloquial phrase 'If you screw up ...'. That sort of lazy

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [GLEP] RFC - Keywording scheme

2007-04-16 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tuesday 17 April 2007 01:10:20 Chris Gianelloni wrote: [ ... ] Yeah, ulimit won't do it. We hit this issue with mimedefang, actually. Our problem is that the kernel is doing the limiting. We ended up having to split things up a good bit into multiple processes to get everything working.

Re: [gentoo-dev] EAPI 1 (Was: Re: Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April)

2007-04-14 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Saturday 14 April 2007 18:14:48 Luca Barbato wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: What, you're saying they all ship with test suites that exist but don't work? anything that takes more than 10m to test is broken from an user point of view: you want the application, Indeed, but speaking as a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Why don't you just ...

2007-04-10 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Wednesday 11 April 2007 10:56:40 Benedikt Boehm wrote: ... don't care about an uber-vision or direction and just keep your friggin packages alive and working? Indeed!! Doing an emerge --deep --update world last week b0rked updating about a couple of dozen packages. Evenutally I realized

Re: [gentoo-dev] *DEVELOPMENT* mail list, right?

2007-04-08 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Sun, 08 Apr 2007 22:58:17 Jeffrey Gardner wrote: Michael Cummings wrote: So, fellow devs, what's new with development? As for me, I'm fighting with jmol-11.0, an awesome java app that relies on a lot of bundled jars. I've been able to use local versions of: ..but finding sources I can

Re: [gentoo-dev] Monthly Gentoo Council Reminder for April

2007-04-05 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Fri, 06 Apr 2007 00:09:12 Wernfried Haas wrote: On Thu, Apr 05, 2007 at 09:26:41AM +0100, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Unfortunately, what the GLEP doesn't do is prevent the Council from having secret meetings and refusing to discuss not only the content of those meetings but even the topic.

Re: [gentoo-dev] /{,usr/}bin path changed. What is the right solution for scripts?

2007-04-01 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Sunday 01 April 2007, Peter Volkov wrote: Hello. Path of some utilities in coreutils-6.7-r1 changed from /usr/bin to /bin and vice versa. This cause some scripts became broken as they relied on the full path to executable. The question is: does there exist best practice on how to avoid

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-31 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Sunday 01 April 2007, Seemant Kulleen wrote: On Sat, 2007-03-31 at 23:39 +0100, Steve Long wrote: Seemant Kulleen wrote: That's uncalled for. There's no need to get nasty. I applaud your intent, but feel it would have far more effect on the atmosphere if applied to a few of your

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-30 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Saturday 31 March 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 21:13:18 +0100 Roy Marples [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 18:50:59 +0100 Ciaran McCreesh [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: A few years ago Gentoo had some serious advantages over the competition. These days,

Re: [gentoo-dev] [soc] Python bindings for Paludis

2007-03-30 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Saturday 31 March 2007, Seemant Kulleen wrote: On Fri, 2007-03-30 at 23:41 +0200, Danny van Dyk wrote: In which case your Paludis fork of Gentoo will take off like a Please, pretty please with sugar atop: Stop this FUD about forking Gentoo. Paludis is not a fork of Gentoo, it's new

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo infra backups

2007-03-27 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Donnie Berkholz wrote: Mike Frysinger wrote: On Monday 26 March 2007, bret curtis wrote: Only wimps use tape backup: *real **men* just upload their important stuff on *ftp*, and let the rest of the world mirror it. -- LT :1996 actually, i wonder if this would be

Re: [gentoo-dev] unmasking packages (was Gentoo's problems)

2007-03-27 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tue, 27 Mar 2007, Luca Barbato wrote: Stuart Longland wrote: Portage itself, does take a long time to load its libraries. I'm yet to try Paludis (I'm one of the few MIPS devs that doesn't use it yet), but do hear good things about it. Perhaps some of the concepts used in Paludis

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo infra backups

2007-03-27 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday 27 March 2007, Christopher Sawtell wrote: I believe Monotone ( as well as many others ) would do what is wanted. i simply cannot fully express myself at how terrible monotone is Care to suggest a different DSCM system? -- CS

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo infra backups

2007-03-27 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 08:45:46 +1200 Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Mike Frysinger wrote: On Tuesday 27 March 2007, Christopher Sawtell wrote: I believe Monotone ( as well as many others ) would do what

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo infra backups

2007-03-27 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Wed, 28 Mar 2007, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Wed, 28 Mar 2007 09:38:19 +1200 Christopher Sawtell [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Care to suggest a different DSCM system? Care to suggest why the D part is necessary or even useful? It seems like a rather extravagant and costly solution

Re: [gentoo-dev] Suggestion: INVALID - NOCHANGE in bugzilla

2007-03-24 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, Jakub Moc wrote: Kevin F. Quinn napsal(a): [snip] See, I don't really care how the reporter feels, if something's not a bug, then it's not a bug. In which case it must be a feature, so why not use the keyword FEATURE? Don't invent confusing 'politically correct' junk

Re: [gentoo-dev] Cultural Differences (was: Suggestion: INVALID - NOCHANGE in bugzilla)

2007-03-24 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Sun, 25 Mar 2007, Mike Kelly wrote: On Sun, 25 Mar 2007 02:21:46 +0200 Alin Năstac [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Christopher Sawtell wrote: In which case it must be a feature, so why not use the keyword FEATURE? Why would we need a keyword for that? We already have enhancement

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Distrowatch

2007-03-20 Thread Christopher Sawtell
On Tue, 20 Mar 2007, Ioannis Aslanidis wrote: What I personally think out of all this situation is nice propaganda for Gentoo, which we could somehow exploit in 'our benefit'. Anyone with ideas on how to promote our distribution even with that kind of propaganda? If nothing else, it does

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: My turn to wear the cursed medalion of retirement

2007-03-19 Thread Christopher Sawtell
TBH I think all that was needed was saying that the pre-existing rules apply to all on the dev m-l, and actually *enforcing* those rules for devs. Devrel is clearly not set up for that, so I support the new dev-mods (sorry proctors is a silly name imnsho as only Americans get it. I understand