Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Distrowatch

2007-03-19 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 19/03/07, Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Mon, 2007-03-19 at 18:54 +0100, Michael Krelin wrote: Seriously. Everybody go to distrowatch and click on the little Gentoo no the right and watch what happens. If we got everybody to do it, then suddenly Gentoo must be the

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 18/03/07, Nirbheek Chauhan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hi, Won't that break configs/increase clutter for people who share their home directories between two distributions since they'll have to restort to symlinks to make stuff work? I myself have gentoo and ubuntu installed and am sharing my

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 18/03/07, Piotr Jaroszyński [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 18 of March 2007 13:37:55 Jeff Rollin wrote: Also, if you have a .config directory to put all these files in, ~ becomes less cluttered but ~/.config becomes VERY cluttered! Nothing prevents from making appdirs in .config too

Re: [gentoo-dev] About testing applications

2007-03-18 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 18/03/07, Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Rollin napsal(a): On 18/03/07, Piotr Jaroszyński [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sunday 18 of March 2007 13:37:55 Jeff Rollin wrote: Also, if you have a .config directory to put all these files in, ~ becomes less cluttered but ~/.config

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo's problems

2007-03-16 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 16/03/07, Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Mauricio Lima Pilla wrote: We are always ready to listen to feedback and constructive criticism, but your constant trolling against the forums can't be classified as such. IMO ciaran has definitely been trolling this list and it's doing my head

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Gentoo's problems

2007-03-15 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 15/03/07, Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: No development gets done on here either. Discussion does. Development happens when people aren't getting drawn into long flames about the distro they use, which only clog up peoples' inboxes. Are you suggesting a dev forum on forums.gentoo.org?

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Distrowatch

2007-03-14 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 14/03/07, Christian Faulhammer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Kevin F. Quinn [EMAIL PROTECTED]: So please, friends, just ignore it, nothing positive will come of it. Unfortunately it made its way onto big news site and lowers the view on Gentoo even more. From many comments I read we are a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introducing the Proctors - Draft Code of Conduct for Gentoo

2007-03-13 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 13/03/07, Christel Dahlskjaer [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Hiya all, Any input will have to be received by Thursday, 15 March, 1200GMT in order to be useful; the Council will be voting on it later that day at 2100UTC. UTC and GMT being the same, right? so 2100UTC is exactly nine hours after

Re: [gentoo-dev] Introducing the Proctors - Draft Code of Conduct for Gentoo

2007-03-13 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 13/03/07, Stephen Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Tue, 13 Mar 2007 19:01:33 + Jeff Rollin [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: UTC and GMT being the same, right? so 2100UTC is exactly nine hours after 1200GMT? For all relevant purposes, yes. -- Tyvm. -- Q: What will happen in the Aftermath

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Some council topics for March meeting

2007-03-12 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 12/03/07, Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Stephen Bennett wrote: Oh, and bashing ciaranm doesn't make you cool. Yeah and nor does sucking him off. I wonder if the manglement at eclipse.co.uk would be pleased about the impression of your company you're given when you post things like

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: How others handle bad behaviour on mailinglists

2007-03-12 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 12/03/07, Mike Frysinger [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: this thread is dead, If only... -- gentoo-dev@gentoo.org mailing list

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Something positive! (was Re: Client-serve flags (again ;))

2007-03-11 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 11/03/07, Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 2007-03-10 at 22:52 +, Jeff Rollin wrote: Personally I find you are/he/she/it/x,y,z is gay statements/jokes really lame. The topic matter doesn't seem to be relevant to anything (beyond whom you might want to sleep with/marry

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Something positive! (was Re: Client-serve flags (again ;))

2007-03-11 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 11/03/07, Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Jeff Rollin wrote: On 10/03/07, Ryan Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The people who get all bent out of shape about a simple joke like that are either homosexual themselves (not a bad thing) or homophobes (definitely a bad thing). .. OTOH

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Something positive! (was Re: Client-serve flags (again ;))

2007-03-11 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 11/03/07, Stephen Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sun, 11 Mar 2007 19:24:49 +0100 Jakub Moc [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: __ __ _ _ ___ _ |__ / _ \| \/ |/ ___| | / ___|_ _/ _ \| _ \| | / / | | | |\/| | | _| | \___ \ | || | | | |_) | | / /|

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Something positive! (was Re: Client-serve flags (again ;))

2007-03-10 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 10/03/07, Andrej Kacian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 12:28:29 -0600 Andrew Gaffney [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thing is that kinda stuff just puts ppl off; i've seen you carry on bugzilla but i always thought fair enough he's stressed and working on loads a bugs; if you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Something positive! (was Re: Client-serve flags (again ;))

2007-03-10 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 10/03/07, Ryan Hill [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The people who get all bent out of shape about a simple joke like that are either homosexual themselves (not a bad thing) or homophobes (definitely a bad thing). Not only is this completely off-topic for a technical ml, but one of the most

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Something positive! (was Re: Client-serve flags (again ;))

2007-03-10 Thread Jeff Rollin
On 10/03/07, Stephen Bennett [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Sat, 10 Mar 2007 22:06:21 +0100 Andrej Kacian [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: BTW, I never understood why are certain people so touchy about homosexuality, while others joke about it with their peers daily (and very personally). The whole

[gentoo-dev] Patent threat?

2006-11-07 Thread Jeff Rollin
HiI'd like to ask how many Gentoo devs get paid for contributions to Gentoo? How many of you (paid or non-paid) think MS's threat to sue over patents is a real danger?Thanks in advanceJeff

Re: [gentoo-dev] Gentoo 2006.1

2006-09-03 Thread Jeff Rollin
It seams that USE flags are not realy tested or howcan it happen that there are already know bugs in thestable distro ?Just like to make the point that if something requires a dependency in ~arch (unstable), then it isn't/shouldn't be in arch (stable).

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-04 Thread Jeff Rollin
All,If I might weigh in at this late stage:How did we end up here in the first place? Isn't the point of ~arch that we can put stuff here that might WELL be unstable? Sure, we'll get lots of I set my ACCEPT_KEYWORDS to ~arch and now my system is broken, messages, but if people are going to try

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-04 Thread Jeff Rollin
I think that sums up some good answers to my questions, too.Jeff.On 04/05/06, Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:On Thu, 2006-05-04 at 13:48 +0200, Bart Braem wrote: Does compiling KDE introduce so many bugs? I mean, let's be serious, all other distributions have a stable 3.5.x now. Don't

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-04 Thread Jeff Rollin
Paul, That cleared it up for me, thanks Jeff.On 04/05/06, Paul de Vrieze [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Actually the testing keywords are not for unstable packages. If somethingis unstable it must be masked. If we however want to test our packagingwe put it in ~arch. If something is in ~arch that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: When will KDE 3.5 be marked as stable?

2006-05-04 Thread Jeff Rollin
I think the problem is that Gentoo is falling into the same sandtrap the Debian project has been mired in forever. arch and ~arch are polarizinginto stable, but horribly out of date, and maybe it will work.This leads to people trying to maintain a frankenstinian /etc/portage/package.keywords file,