Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New category proposal

2005-05-12 Thread Patrick Lauer
On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 23:58 +0100, Stroller wrote: On May 11, 2005, at 8:10 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: * Unique ID strings for packages, zynot style. Messy as hell though, DEPEND=foo/bar {12379812AD7382164BD87678652438FC65E43A2} doesn't have the same kind of ring to it... Maybe I'm

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New category proposal

2005-05-12 Thread Stroller
On May 12, 2005, at 10:11 am, Patrick Lauer wrote: On Wed, 2005-05-11 at 23:58 +0100, Stroller wrote: On May 11, 2005, at 8:10 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: * Unique ID strings for packages, zynot style. Messy as hell though, DEPEND=foo/bar {12379812AD7382164BD87678652438FC65E43A2} doesn't have the

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New category proposal

2005-05-11 Thread Duncan
Brian Harring posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Wed, 11 May 2005 00:09:20 -0500: One thing that just clicked in the skull on why flat-tree has issues; currently it's possible to have a package with the same name, yet a differing category (app-vim/sudo vs app-admin/sudo). Since

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New category proposal

2005-05-11 Thread Brian Harring
On Tue, May 10, 2005 at 10:59:42PM -0700, Duncan wrote: Since our tree layout is based upon category, if you tried shifting the focus of it to packages_in anyway_, you would explicitly disallow same name packages, different category. Doesn't matter how you structure the tree, if you do

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New category proposal

2005-05-11 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 10/05/2005-22:59:42(-0700): Duncan types BTW, it'd be very handy to have slotted bin-pkgs as well, slotted as in allowing me to do things like test a gcc4 created package, without erasing my gcc-3.4 created bin-pkg, in case something doesn't work, and without having to remember to

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New category proposal

2005-05-11 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 11/05/2005-16:10:48(+0900): types maillog: 10/05/2005-22:59:42(-0700): Duncan types BTW, it'd be very handy to have slotted bin-pkgs as well, slotted as in allowing me to do things like test a gcc4 created package, without erasing my gcc-3.4 created bin-pkg, in case something

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New category proposal

2005-05-11 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 11/05/2005-16:41:37(+0100): Ciaran McCreesh types On Tue, 10 May 2005 22:59:42 -0700 Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | 1) Human. It's frustrating to do emerge sudo and have it tell you to | specify, when there's only /one/ normal sudo. The /other/ sudo | should be vim-sudo or

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New category proposal

2005-05-11 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 12 May 2005 02:21:28 +0900 Georgi Georgiev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | maillog: 11/05/2005-16:41:37(+0100): Ciaran McCreesh types | On Tue, 10 May 2005 22:59:42 -0700 Duncan [EMAIL PROTECTED] | wrote: | | 1) Human. It's frustrating to do emerge sudo and have it tell you | | to specify,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New category proposal

2005-05-11 Thread Georgi Georgiev
maillog: 11/05/2005-19:06:37(+0100): Ciaran McCreesh types So we end up not using upstream naming, leading to major hassle with tarballs, major user confusion and inconsistent naming (why are some vim things vim- and others not?). Bad! Now that portage *tells* you when you need to be more

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New category proposal

2005-05-11 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 12 May 2005 04:01:17 +0900 Georgi Georgiev [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | How do we prevent a current category/package combination like | net-wireless/gnome-phone-manager from becoming something else like | app-cellphone/gnome-phone-manager? Two options: * Smarter updates handling by

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New category proposal

2005-05-11 Thread Stroller
On May 11, 2005, at 8:10 pm, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: * Unique ID strings for packages, zynot style. Messy as hell though, DEPEND=foo/bar {12379812AD7382164BD87678652438FC65E43A2} doesn't have the same kind of ring to it... Maybe I'm just a messy person, but I really like this. It prevents upstream

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Alec Warner
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Duncan wrote: Martin Schlemmer posted [EMAIL PROTECTED], excerpted below, on Tue, 10 May 2005 11:02:07 +0200: Problem with flat tree, is the search times might then suck even more, as last I heard, too many dirs/files in one directory have a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: New category proposal

2005-05-10 Thread Stephen Bennett
On Tue, 2005-05-10 at 11:05 -0400, Alec Warner wrote: I'll be the first alt-arch person to scream, Reiser isn't stable on more than half the arch's we support, and forcing users to go to one filesystem just to get decent speed on portage tree searches is silly. Besides which, as of latested