[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Resignation

2007-04-20 Thread Steve Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: Jan Kundrát [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Show me name calling and/or insulting behavior. If you want a list of *that*, look at 134852. But we were discussing Jakub's contributions, not Jakub's bad behaviour. I think this is a much more representative example of Jakub's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Resignation

2007-04-20 Thread Wernfried Haas
Ciaran, Steve, I think i made it clear this subthread needs to be left alone here and moved to a better place (if any) as already explained here: http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.linux.gentoo.devel/48164/focus=48271 So please stop it, both of you. cheers, Wernfried -- Wernfried Haas

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Resignation

2007-04-19 Thread Steve Long
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:29:29 +0200 Ioannis Aslanidis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The real point is that bug-wranglers has lost over 50% of it's effectiveness, again imo. jakub and spanky are the two main guys, and it's not just the loss of jakub's prodigious work-rate,

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Resignation

2007-04-19 Thread Fernando J. Pereda
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 11:36:09AM +0100, Steve Long wrote: It's not just me that thinks there haven't been any major b0rkages for nearly a year. Could it be that maybe, just maybe, the development process has actually worked /better/ since you were forcibly retired? Can you *please* stop

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Resignation

2007-04-19 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:36:09 +0100 Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: snip examples of bad behaviour ...does anyone want another few pages of that kind of thing? Devrel has for once gotten something more or less right. Perhaps people should be thanking them instead. You're ignoring the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Resignation

2007-04-19 Thread Bryan Østergaard
On Thu, Apr 19, 2007 at 11:36:09AM +0100, Steve Long wrote: Ciaran McCreesh wrote: On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 10:29:29 +0200 Ioannis Aslanidis [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: The real point is that bug-wranglers has lost over 50% of it's effectiveness, again imo. jakub and spanky are the two main

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Resignation

2007-04-19 Thread Stephen P. Becker
On Thu, 19 Apr 2007 11:36:09 +0100 Steve Long [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And from the comments of others, *he gets the result*. Incidentally, many tried to make that same argument about Ciaran. -Steve signature.asc Description: PGP signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Resignation

2007-04-19 Thread Ferris McCormick
This thread is not going anywhere useful, and does not belong on -dev. There was a request to move it to gentoo-devrel if there was any need to continue it. Please do that. Me, I don't see that there's much new ground to cover at this point. Regards, Ferris -- Ferris McCormick (P44646, MI)

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Resignation

2007-04-19 Thread Chris Gianelloni
On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 11:36 +0100, Steve Long wrote: And from the comments of others, *he gets the result*. So what? We are a community. We cannot allow poisonous attitudes to flourish in our community, NO MATTER WHAT THEIR CONTRIBUTION. -- Chris Gianelloni Release Engineering Strategic Lead

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Resignation

2007-04-19 Thread Ioannis Aslanidis
On 4/19/07, Chris Gianelloni [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 11:36 +0100, Steve Long wrote: And from the comments of others, *he gets the result*. So what? We are a community. We cannot allow poisonous attitudes to flourish in our community, NO MATTER WHAT THEIR CONTRIBUTION.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Resignation

2007-04-19 Thread Alec Warner
As I see it most people have a couple of roads here: You want more information regarding the issue surrounding the suspension of Jakub or you have a problem with the manner in which the issue was handled/executed. You can reach devrel at [EMAIL PROTECTED] and on their mailing list, [EMAIL

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Resignation

2007-04-19 Thread Larry Lines
On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 08:52 -0700, Alec Warner wrote: As I see it most people have a couple of roads here: You want more information regarding the issue surrounding the suspension of Jakub or you have a problem with the manner in which the issue was handled/executed. You can reach devrel

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Resignation

2007-04-19 Thread Ioannis Aslanidis
I'm afraid to inform you that this was already proposed and was not taken seriously! :) On 4/19/07, Larry Lines [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 08:52 -0700, Alec Warner wrote: As I see it most people have a couple of roads here: You want more information regarding the issue

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: Re: Resignation

2007-04-19 Thread Alec Warner
Larry Lines wrote: On Thu, 2007-04-19 at 08:52 -0700, Alec Warner wrote: As I see it most people have a couple of roads here: You want more information regarding the issue surrounding the suspension of Jakub or you have a problem with the manner in which the issue was handled/executed. You