On 04/04/10 22:48, Roy Bamford wrote:
> Open bugs per package and mean age of bugs per package come to mind.
> Such per package metrics can be aggregated per herd, per project, the
> whole of Gentoo or whatever.
>
> A reducing mean age of bugs and open bugs shows we are moving in the
> right dir
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On 04-04-2010 04:50, Dale wrote:
> I felt sorry for the KDE folks when KDE4 was released. It just had
> to be a nightmare to get all that in the tree at once. If they had
> twice as many people working on it tho, it would have been easier. The
> peo
On 2010.04.03 15:59, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
> Am Samstag, den 03.04.2010, 15:40 +0100 schrieb Roy Bamford:
> > First, we need some metrics - the first step to controlling
> anything
> is
> > to measure it.
>
> So, how do you want to measure those metrics? I for one can't think
> of a useful al
On Sun, 4 Apr 2010 10:22:06 +0200
"Tobias Scherbaum" wrote:
> 5 years ago [...] constantly added [...]
You need to clarify your metric. How are you defining constant? How often does
a new document need to appear?
What mostly happens is steady refinement and expansion of our existing docs,
occ
On 04/04/10 03:48, Joshua Saddler wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 11:16:32 +0200
> Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
>
>> - Our formerly outstanding documentation still is somewhat maintained,
>> but that's it. I haven't seen any new additions (both to our docs, but
>> also to our docs-team) for years. Peopl
On 04/04/2010 04:48 AM, Joshua Saddler wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 11:16:32 +0200 Tobias Scherbaum
> wrote:
>
>> - Our formerly outstanding documentation still is somewhat
>> maintained, but that's it. I haven't seen any new additions (both
>> to our docs, but also to our docs-team) for years. P
Joshua Saddler wrote lots of:
> Thanks for sh**ting on my efforts.
See, this is not about your personal efforts. I really do appreciate the
work and time you invest in improving both the docs and PR. But otoh try
to compare what the docs-team and PR did say 5 years ago and what they're
doing today
Alec Warner wrote:
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Joshua Saddler wrote:
On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 11:16:32 +0200
Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
- Our formerly outstanding documentation still is somewhat maintained,
but that's it. I haven't seen any new additions (both to our docs, but
also to
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 6:48 PM, Joshua Saddler wrote:
> On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 11:16:32 +0200
> Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
>
>> - Our formerly outstanding documentation still is somewhat maintained,
>> but that's it. I haven't seen any new additions (both to our docs, but
>> also to our docs-team) for
On Sat, 03 Apr 2010 11:16:32 +0200
Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
> - Our formerly outstanding documentation still is somewhat maintained,
> but that's it. I haven't seen any new additions (both to our docs, but
> also to our docs-team) for years. People are constantly asking for a
> documentation wiki
On 04/03/10 18:03, Alec Warner wrote:
> - date of last commit: Gentoo is fast moving and packages that
> haven't had commits since 200{4,5,6} are probably old, unmaintained
> and may not even compile or run.
> - date of last listed maintainer commit versus last commit:
> Basically if the maintain
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 05:38, Petteri Räty wrote:
> My perception from the outside is also that it's sometimes hard to offer
> help. So if we now that we are busy then let's try to embrace others
> doing the work.
This is also what I have observed. I think Gentoo needs appear to be
much more focu
Alec Warner wrote:
> The above are all pretty easy to do with the data in the tree. Some
> other useful ideas might be:
> - compare open bugs for the package, when was the last bug for a
> package closed (bugs data kinda sucks for this)
An additional search: last touched by assignee between neve
On Sat, Apr 3, 2010 at 7:59 AM, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
> Am Samstag, den 03.04.2010, 15:40 +0100 schrieb Roy Bamford:
>> First, we need some metrics - the first step to controlling anything is
>> to measure it.
>
> So, how do you want to measure those metrics? I for one can't think of a
> useful
Am Samstag, den 03.04.2010, 15:40 +0100 schrieb Roy Bamford:
> First, we need some metrics - the first step to controlling anything is
> to measure it.
So, how do you want to measure those metrics? I for one can't think of a
useful algorithm which helps to identify understaffed or orphaned areas.
On 2010.04.03 10:16, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
> Hell no, but ...
>
> We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to sum up in a positive
> way.
> Summing it up the negative way one might say, we have lots of areas
> were
> users might get the idea Gentoo already is dead.
>
> For example:
[snip lots
Am 03.04.2010 11:26, schrieb "Paweł Hajdan, Jr.":
> On 4/3/10 11:16 AM, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
>> Hell no, but ...
>>
>> We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to sum up in a positive way.
>> Summing it up the negative way one might say, we have lots of areas were
>> users might get the idea Ge
Am Samstag, den 03.04.2010, 11:26 +0200 schrieb "Paweł Hajdan, Jr.":
> > For example:
> > - hardened-sources are nowadays only available in an experimental
> > overlay, lots of users keep asking what's happening to the
> > hardened-sources on both the -dev but also the -hardened mailinglist.
>
> I
Am Samstag, den 03.04.2010, 02:37 -0700 schrieb Brian Harring:
> On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 11:16:32AM +0200, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
> > Hell no, but ...
>
> Then avoid feeding the distrowatch trolls w/ sensational
> subjects please ;)
oh, well ;)
> > We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to
On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 09:40:12AM +, Robin H. Johnson wrote:
> > So - what to do now? To be honest - I have no real clue. But a first
> > step might be to collect your opinions on where we do lack manpower and
> > ideas on how to solve this problems. A Wiki might be fitting well for
> > that t
On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 11:16:32AM +0200, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
> - Infra: One might get the idea our Infra team is just Robin (yeah, sure
> there are more people, but ) ... things are happening slowly (no
> offend - I fully understand that those few can't dedicate more of their
> spare time
On Sat, Apr 03, 2010 at 11:16:32AM +0200, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
> Hell no, but ...
Then avoid feeding the distrowatch trolls w/ sensational
subjects please ;)
> We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to sum up in a positive way.
> Summing it up the negative way one might say, we have lots
On 04/03/2010 12:16 PM, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
>
> - Infra: One might get the idea our Infra team is just Robin (yeah, sure
> there are more people, but ) ... things are happening slowly (no
> offend - I fully understand that those few can't dedicate more of their
> spare time to infra work!
On 4/3/10 11:16 AM, Tobias Scherbaum wrote:
> Hell no, but ...
>
> We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to sum up in a positive way.
> Summing it up the negative way one might say, we have lots of areas were
> users might get the idea Gentoo already is dead.
>
> For example:
> - hardened-sou
Hell no, but ...
We have lots of quite understaffed areas, to sum up in a positive way.
Summing it up the negative way one might say, we have lots of areas were
users might get the idea Gentoo already is dead.
For example:
- hardened-sources are nowadays only available in an experimental
overlay,
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