Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-30 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Monday 30 January 2006 07:41, Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: Another example of such issues is when i installed laptop-mode tools for the first time: it messed my acpid configuration, because it was adding in /etc/acpi/{events,actions}.d some handlers for things i had already configured

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Alin Nastac
Marcelo Góes wrote: If INSTALL_MASK is the correct way to prevent logrotate stuff from being installed, then those 8 ebuilds I mentioned earlier should drop the USE flag and install it by default. That's probably easier to fix, too. This cannot be done for squid, because this useflag selects

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:58:52 -0800 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You want people to recompile the whole package to get another text file installed? When would one recompile a package just for that? Only case i can think of is when someone who already has setup his apache / ftp /

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 11:07:15 +0100 Thomas de Grenier de Latour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: i would not appreciate to see it suddenly handling a new service because a xinet.d file has been silently added by a new version of an ebuild. Ok, i see all files i have installed in that dir have

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Francesco Riosa
Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:58:52 -0800 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You want people to recompile the whole package to get another text file installed? When would one recompile a package just for that? Only case i can think of is when someone

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread William Hubbs
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Sun, Jan 29, 2006 at 07:46:30AM +, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: We already had this discussion. It's not that it's another file, it's that it's another file in /etc, which is backed up and requires administrator attention on every upgrade.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: Or again another one (a bit ugly imho tho): merge the files in an /etc/logrotate.d.dist directory, and add an eselect module to handle symlinks from /etc/logrotate.d. What's ugly about this? I like it. signature.asc Description: OpenPGP digital signature

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:58:52 -0800 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: You want people to recompile the whole package to get another text file installed? When would one recompile a package just for that? Only case i can think of is when someone

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:51:25 -0800 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: Or again another one (a bit ugly imho tho): merge the files in an /etc/logrotate.d.dist directory, and add an eselect module to handle symlinks from /etc/logrotate.d. What's

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Thomas de Grenier de Latour
On Sun, 29 Jan 2006 13:51:29 -0800 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: And any other new file in /etc you also want a USE flag introduced for? Sounds real scalable. Or is this just an exception from the rule? Sure it's an exception. I make the difference beetween: - usual /etc/ files:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Thomas de Grenier de Latour wrote: It would be interesting to know how that happened for in the past for /etc/bash_completion.d, which made a similar move iirc Yes, it would. (although real files went to /usr/share/something, whereas here i would rather see them in etc because they are more

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-29 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Mon, 30 Jan 2006 07:15:57 +0100 Thomas de Grenier de Latour [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | It would be interesting to know how that happened for in the past | for /etc/bash_completion.d, which made a similar move iirc Have you any idea how slow bash is if you use all the completion files for every

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-28 Thread Doug Goldstein
Marcelo Góes wrote: It seems there are some ebuilds with a logrotate USE flag: use.local.desc:34:app-backup/bacula:logrotate - Install support files for logrotate use.local.desc:550:mail-filter/dspam:logrotate - Install support files for logrotate

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-28 Thread Francesco Riosa
Doug Goldstein wrote: Marcelo Góes wrote: It seems there are some ebuilds with a logrotate USE flag: use.local.desc:34:app-backup/bacula:logrotate - Install support files for logrotate use.local.desc:550:mail-filter/dspam:logrotate - Install support files for logrotate

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-28 Thread Marcelo Góes
On 1/28/06, Francesco Riosa [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: Doug Goldstein wrote: How about the packages that don't even ask and just install logrotate stuff? Like Apache, lighttpd, and mysql? they should use it, MySQL will be updated when Marcelo make logrotate uf global Indeed, logrotate

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-28 Thread Donnie Berkholz
Marcelo Góes wrote: Indeed, logrotate functionality should be optional. Ebuilds that install logrotate stuff without asking should be updated to use the logrotate USE flag. I'm making it a global USE flag if nobody complains. You want people to recompile the whole package to get another text

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-28 Thread Alec Warner
Marcelo Góes wrote: It seems there are some ebuilds with a logrotate USE flag: snip Perhaps it should be a global USE flag? We have discussed this fairly recently[1] so I'll post the link to save everyone the hassle. [1] http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=gentoo-devw=2r=1s=logrotateq=b

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-28 Thread Marcelo Góes
Reposting since I don't think my last e-mail got through... On 1/29/06, Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: People who don't want it can set INSTALL_MASK. It should be installed by default and not switchable with a USE flag. If INSTALL_MASK is the correct way to prevent logrotate stuff

Re: [gentoo-dev] Make logrotate a global USE flag?

2006-01-28 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Sat, 28 Jan 2006 18:58:52 -0800 Donnie Berkholz [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: | Marcelo Góes wrote: | Indeed, logrotate functionality should be optional. Ebuilds that | install logrotate stuff without asking should be updated to use the | logrotate USE flag. | | I'm making it a global USE flag