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Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> > On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 18:10 +0200, Wulf C. Krueger wrote:
>> >> On Wednesday, June 6, 2007 05:29:47 PM Grant Goodyear wrote:
>> >> I'm sure they have the best intentions but I've never seen any clear
>> >> guidelines for th
Hello Chris!
I'm shortening your mail greatly and respond to only a few aspects because
the two of us seem to agree on a great deal of those points you made.
On Thursday, June 7, 2007 01:45:43 AM Chris Gianelloni wrote:
[Proctors]
> Well, they've been asked to write guidelines for Council approv
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Chris Gianelloni wrote:
> The Code of Conduct was written with the hopes that its existence would
> help to curb the flamewars and other general nastiness between people
> within the community. The proctors were created to enforce the Code of
> Co
Alexandre Buisse wrote:
On Thu, Jun 7, 2007 at 12:20:07 +0200, George Prowse wrote:
[...] before trying to stop a thread
descending into anarchy?
I wish it was descending into anarchy. Which is a highly organized
social system, and doesn't have anything to do with chaos. Anarchy is
just a sys
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:15:58 +0100
George Prowse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
All this is immaterial anyway because even if it had been extensively
discussed at length then the proctors would still have acted the
same
If that really were the case, it would just be an even
On Thu, Jun 7, 2007 at 12:20:07 +0200, George Prowse wrote:
> [...] before trying to stop a thread
> descending into anarchy?
I wish it was descending into anarchy. Which is a highly organized
social system, and doesn't have anything to do with chaos. Anarchy is
just a system where there is no a
Ciaran McCreesh wrote:
Perhaps if the proctors had discussed things first, they wouldn't have
made two major screwups that resulted in Gentoo losing yet another
developer.
Might I suggest that anybody who is waiting for "one last straw" go
ahead and take a month or two off right now and save
On Thu, 07 Jun 2007 11:15:58 +0100
George Prowse <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> All this is immaterial anyway because even if it had been extensively
> discussed at length then the proctors would still have acted the
> same
If that really were the case, it would just be an even stronger
argument fo
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 01:08 +0100, George Prowse wrote:
from http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/coc.xml
Look at the Council logs from the CoC being approved and the ones since.
We asked for real guidelines so we could specifically avoid this sort of
problem from happ
On Thu, 2007-06-07 at 01:08 +0100, George Prowse wrote:
> from http://www.gentoo.org/proj/en/council/coc.xml
Look at the Council logs from the CoC being approved and the ones since.
We asked for real guidelines so we could specifically avoid this sort of
problem from happening.
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Chris Gianello
Chris Gianelloni wrote:
On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 19:16 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
Wulf C. Krueger wrote:
I'm sure they have the best intentions but I've never seen any clear
guidelines for them. They use their best judgement what to handle and
what not to but due to language barriers, cultura
On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 19:16 +0200, [EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote:
> Wulf C. Krueger wrote:
> > I'm sure they have the best intentions but I've never seen any clear
> > guidelines for them. They use their best judgement what to handle and
> > what not to but due to language barriers, cultural differences
On Wed, 2007-06-06 at 18:10 +0200, Wulf C. Krueger wrote:
> On Wednesday, June 6, 2007 05:29:47 PM Grant Goodyear wrote:
> [Proctor system]
> > a way to fix the current system, or should it be chucked entirely, as
> > has been suggested?
>
> Personally, I think we simply don't need the proctors.
Galevsky wrote:
But I do not understand why 7
devs -even elected by the others- could make decisions on other
projects and are described as the group in charge of the 'global
issues and policies'.
The logic is that most organizations are overseen by a board of
directors. This system is used
Wulf C. Krueger wrote:
On Wednesday, June 6, 2007 05:29:47 PM Grant Goodyear wrote:
[Proctor system]
a way to fix the current system, or should it be chucked entirely, as
has been suggested?
Personally, I think we simply don't need the proctors.
Nor do I. Every thread that has gone bad in t
On Wednesday, June 6, 2007 07:20:18 PM Josh Saddler wrote:
> Wulf C. Krueger wrote:
> > IRC is more or less self-moderated.
> I'd have to disagree, given the pure insanity and horsepiss the last 48
> hours have been. Clearly, we can't keep ourselves in line.
Well, yes, there are exceptions from th
Hi all,
I am not a dev but a Gentoo-addicted user that would be interested in
getting involved. So I have no more situation awareness than the
website and this ML brought to me. But I have 2 cents I want to share
peacefully.
First, I am wondering about the exact role of what is known to be:
"Th
Wulf C. Krueger wrote:
> I'm sure they have the best intentions but I've never seen any clear
> guidelines for them. They use their best judgement what to handle and
> what not to but due to language barriers, cultural differences etc. it's
> difficult to judge.
The guideline, as far as I understoo
On Wednesday, June 6, 2007 05:29:47 PM Grant Goodyear wrote:
[Proctor system]
> a way to fix the current system, or should it be chucked entirely, as
> has been suggested?
Personally, I think we simply don't need the proctors.
I'm sure they have the best intentions but I've never seen any clear
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