Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Overlay Layout support.

2009-03-06 Thread Caleb Cushing
On Wed, Mar 4, 2009 at 8:52 PM, Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > One of the reasons we had to split the work in the 2 overlays was to > move the live ebuilds to the experimental overlay so that "casual users" > wouldn't be affected by them. if they're properly masked/keyworded why would 'casua

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Overlay Layout support.

2009-03-04 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Wulf C. Krueger wrote: > On Monday, 02. March 2009 10:29:59 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: >> Also, having separate overlays would allow one to do experimental stuff >> with eclasses in the experimental overlay without affecting users of the >> base

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Overlay Layout support.

2009-03-03 Thread Petteri Räty
Caleb Cushing wrote: >> Are we to say that we shouldn't allow tools to have support for this. I >> think that it is a nature progression that if we are to allow overlays to >> extend the portage tree that we should allow overlays to extend other >> overlays. > > I probably shouldn't butt in... >

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Overlay Layout support.

2009-03-03 Thread Marijn Schouten (hkBst)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Caleb Cushing wrote: >> Are we to say that we shouldn't allow tools to have support for this. I >> think that it is a nature progression that if we are to allow overlays to >> extend the portage tree that we should allow overlays to extend other >> o

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Overlay Layout support.

2009-03-02 Thread Caleb Cushing
>  Are we to say that we shouldn't allow tools to have support for this.  I > think that it is a nature progression that if we are to allow overlays to > extend the portage tree that we should allow overlays to extend other > overlays. I probably shouldn't butt in... first, no I don't want you to

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Overlay Layout support.

2009-03-02 Thread Wulf C. Krueger
On Monday, 02. March 2009 10:29:59 Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto wrote: > Also, having separate overlays would allow one to do experimental stuff > with eclasses in the experimental overlay without affecting users of the > base overlay. Until we get versioned eclasses, I don't see how one can > do tha

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Overlay Layout support.

2009-03-02 Thread Thomas Sachau
Alistair Bush schrieb: > Asking non-dev contributors to handle package.mask's would be a "less > than ideal". Resulting in "interesting breakages". Currently by adding > java-experimental ( which might I add isn't available thru layman ) you > are accepting that risk. > > At least java and kde ha

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Overlay Layout support.

2009-03-02 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alistair Bush wrote: > > > Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> On 19:18 Mon 02 Mar , Alistair Bush wrote: >>> Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> >> Could you explain what you see as the important difference that makes >> package.mask bad and a separate overlay good

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Overlay Layout support.

2009-03-01 Thread Alistair Bush
Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 19:18 Mon 02 Mar , Alistair Bush wrote: Donnie Berkholz wrote: Could you explain what you see as the important difference that makes package.mask bad and a separate overlay good? Contributors sometimes have difficulty following standards (hell even dev's d

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Overlay Layout support.

2009-03-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 19:18 Mon 02 Mar , Alistair Bush wrote: > Donnie Berkholz wrote: >> Combine this with package.mask. To me, experimental means masked. > > Experimental within java means a lot of things, or at least it should. > Anything from user contributed and non-dev qa'd to packages with bundled > ja

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Overlay Layout support.

2009-03-01 Thread Alistair Bush
Donnie Berkholz wrote: On 11:59 Sun 25 Jan , Alistair Bush wrote: Possible Solution: Merging java-overlay and java-experimental. From my perspective this isn't a good one as we loss most of the benefits of java-experimental. Combine this with package.mask. To me, experimental means mas

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Overlay Layout support.

2009-03-01 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 11:59 Sun 25 Jan , Alistair Bush wrote: > Possible Solution: > > Merging java-overlay and java-experimental. From my perspective this > isn't a good one as we loss most of the benefits of java-experimental. Combine this with package.mask. To me, experimental means masked. -- Thanks, Don

Re: [gentoo-dev] QA Overlay Layout support.

2009-03-01 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alistair Bush wrote: > Here is an issue that is currently being faced by the java project that > I would like to bring to the attention of everyone. I have already > discussed this will devs from all pm's. > > Intro: > > Within the java project we h

[gentoo-dev] QA Overlay Layout support.

2009-01-24 Thread Alistair Bush
Here is an issue that is currently being faced by the java project that I would like to bring to the attention of everyone. I have already discussed this will devs from all pm's. Intro: Within the java project we have 2 overlays. java-overlay and java-experimental. java-overlay is mean't to be