Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: EAPI 4 deprecated ban

2015-08-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sat, Aug 15, 2015 at 10:09 PM, Raymond Jennings shent...@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: Finally, the gentoo developer quiz -should- still contain questions about ancient stuff. There are still EAPI0 and EAPI2 ebuilds in the tree

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: EAPI 4 deprecated ban

2015-08-16 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 8/16/15 3:29 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: They are deprecated already: https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/metadata/layout.conf Deprecated means stop adding them, and move away from them. Repoman will give you a warning about them. Is anything blocking deprecating EAPI4 in the

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: EAPI 4 deprecated ban

2015-08-16 Thread Rich Freeman
On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 9:47 AM, Paweł Hajdan, Jr. phajdan...@gentoo.org wrote: On 8/16/15 3:29 PM, Rich Freeman wrote: They are deprecated already: https://gitweb.gentoo.org/repo/gentoo.git/tree/metadata/layout.conf Deprecated means stop adding them, and move away from them. Repoman will

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: EAPI 4 deprecated ban

2015-08-16 Thread Raymond Jennings
What's the best way to get rid of deprecated ebuilds? Do we just wait for their maintainers to migrate them or should they be sought out and flagged? I'm pondering searching for EAPI 0 ebuilds and filing bug reports on them. On Sun, Aug 16, 2015 at 6:57 AM, Rich Freeman ri...@gentoo.org wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: EAPI 4 deprecated ban

2015-08-16 Thread James Le Cuirot
On Sun, 16 Aug 2015 09:52:06 -0700 Raymond Jennings shent...@gmail.com wrote: What's the best way to get rid of deprecated ebuilds? Do we just wait for their maintainers to migrate them or should they be sought out and flagged? I'm pondering searching for EAPI 0 ebuilds and filing bug

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: EAPI 4 deprecated ban

2015-08-15 Thread Raymond Jennings
On Fri, Aug 14, 2015 at 6:16 PM, Ian Stakenvicius a...@gentoo.org wrote: -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 14/08/15 06:43 PM, Johannes Huber wrote: Am 08/15/15 um 00:19 schrieb Andrew Savchenko: Hi, While I have no objections about EAPI 4 deprecation (except

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: EAPI 4 deprecated ban

2015-08-15 Thread Ulrich Mueller
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015, Paweł Hajdan, wrote: Nothing seems to prevent doing the mass conversion first, deprecating EAPI 4, and then having a second, slower pass to make sure the ebuilds are using EAPI 5 as they should be. One way might be to add a TODO comment during mass conversion, which then

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: EAPI 4 deprecated ban

2015-08-15 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-08-15, o godz. 09:06:48 Ulrich Mueller u...@gentoo.org napisał(a): On Sat, 15 Aug 2015, Paweł Hajdan, wrote: Nothing seems to prevent doing the mass conversion first, deprecating EAPI 4, and then having a second, slower pass to make sure the ebuilds are using EAPI 5 as they

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: EAPI 4 deprecated ban

2015-08-15 Thread Daniel Campbell (zlg)
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 08/14/2015 03:05 PM, Johannes Huber wrote: Hello Gentoos Penguins, if we want to attract more contributors we should consider to have one supported EAPI (latest). EAPI 4 is the last not marked as deprecated ( EAPI 5). The move in ebuilds

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: EAPI 4 deprecated ban

2015-08-15 Thread Johannes Huber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am 08/15/15 um 07:35 schrieb Michał Górny: This is a cheap hack, not a conversion. Proper conversion to a new EAPI is about using the new EAPI features. Not marking it 'done', and pretending there's nothing more to do. Yeah you are right.

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: EAPI 4 deprecated ban

2015-08-15 Thread Andrew Savchenko
On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 08:12:42 +0200 Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: On 8/15/15 3:16 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: Secondly, though, conversion to EAPI5 is not actually trivial, there are a couple of things, 'usex' related for instance, that also need to be taken care of. If it was just a matter of

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: EAPI 4 deprecated ban

2015-08-15 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 8/15/15 3:16 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: Secondly, though, conversion to EAPI5 is not actually trivial, there are a couple of things, 'usex' related for instance, that also need to be taken care of. If it was just a matter of running a sed -e 's/^EAPI=4/EAPI=5/' on all in-tree ebuilds this

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: EAPI 4 deprecated ban

2015-08-15 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 8/15/15 7:35 AM, Michał Górny wrote: Dnia 2015-08-15, o godz. 00:05:57 Johannes Huber j...@gentoo.org napisał(a): if we want to attract more contributors we should consider to have one supported EAPI (latest). EAPI 4 is the last not marked as deprecated ( EAPI 5). The move in ebuilds from

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: EAPI 4 deprecated ban

2015-08-15 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 15/08/15 02:48 AM, Andrew Savchenko wrote: On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 08:12:42 +0200 Paweł Hajdan, Jr. wrote: On 8/15/15 3:16 AM, Ian Stakenvicius wrote: Secondly, though, conversion to EAPI5 is not actually trivial, there are a couple of things,

[gentoo-dev] RFC: EAPI 4 deprecated ban

2015-08-14 Thread Johannes Huber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello Gentoos Penguins, if we want to attract more contributors we should consider to have one supported EAPI (latest). EAPI 4 is the last not marked as deprecated ( EAPI 5). The move in ebuilds from EAPI 4 to EAPI 5 is very simple replacing the

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: EAPI 4 deprecated ban

2015-08-14 Thread Andrew Savchenko
Hi, On Sat, 15 Aug 2015 00:05:57 +0200 Johannes Huber wrote: if we want to attract more contributors we should consider to have one supported EAPI (latest). EAPI 4 is the last not marked as deprecated ( EAPI 5). The move in ebuilds from EAPI 4 to EAPI 5 is very simple replacing the

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: EAPI 4 deprecated ban

2015-08-14 Thread Johannes Huber
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Am 08/15/15 um 00:19 schrieb Andrew Savchenko: Hi, While I have no objections about EAPI 4 deprecation (except concerns mentioned above), I see no strong need for this also. Just declare EAPI 5 as recommended. Having legacy support for EAPI

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: EAPI 4 deprecated ban

2015-08-14 Thread Ian Stakenvicius
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA256 On 14/08/15 06:43 PM, Johannes Huber wrote: Am 08/15/15 um 00:19 schrieb Andrew Savchenko: Hi, While I have no objections about EAPI 4 deprecation (except concerns mentioned above), I see no strong need for this also. Just declare EAPI 5

Re: [gentoo-dev] RFC: EAPI 4 deprecated ban

2015-08-14 Thread Michał Górny
Dnia 2015-08-15, o godz. 00:05:57 Johannes Huber j...@gentoo.org napisał(a): -BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA512 Hello Gentoos Penguins, if we want to attract more contributors we should consider to have one supported EAPI (latest). EAPI 4 is the last not marked as deprecated