Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-14 Thread Donnie Berkholz
On 12:51 Fri 10 Jul , Ferris McCormick wrote: > On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 22:50 -0400, Andrew D Kirch wrote: > > Ciaran, you are killing Gentoo. You wrote a demonstrably error > > prone GLEP 39, then tried to exploit it to ram through GLEP 55, and > > you got caught. You've created a huge amount

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-10 Thread Ferris McCormick
On Thu, 2009-07-09 at 22:50 -0400, Andrew D Kirch wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > > < trelane> ciaranm: I want Paludis to fail. It's unhealthy (or at least > > the loudest and most visible of it's devs are) for Gentoo. > > > > < trelane> lets be VERY clear on that point. So long as Paludis, and >

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-09 Thread Alec Warner
On Thu, Jul 9, 2009 at 7:50 PM, Andrew D Kirch wrote: > Ciaran McCreesh wrote: >> < trelane> ciaranm: I want Paludis to fail. It's unhealthy (or at least >> the loudest and most visible of it's devs are) for Gentoo. >> >> < trelane> lets be VERY clear on that point. So long as Paludis, and >> the c

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-09 Thread Andrew D Kirch
Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > < trelane> ciaranm: I want Paludis to fail. It's unhealthy (or at least > the loudest and most visible of it's devs are) for Gentoo. > > < trelane> lets be VERY clear on that point. So long as Paludis, and > the culture it creates are unhealthy for Gentoo I want it to fail.

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 22:51:05 + "Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto" wrote: > As Denis has already stated we're not interested in the disputes > between you, paludis, exherbo and some other users or projects > (funtoo?). This ml is about Gentoo not about y

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Jorge Manuel B. S. Vicetto
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 Alright, seeing that things are getting out of hand again, let me reply as a member of the userrel team. Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:55:02 -0600 > Denis Dupeyron wrote: >> On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Ciaran >> McCreesh wrote:

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 11:55:02 -0600 Denis Dupeyron wrote: > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Ciaran > McCreesh wrote: > > I contribute productively and usefully > > This should have gone in private but I want it to be public because > you and others apparently do not get it. No, this needs to be i

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Nirbheek Chauhan
Just putting some weight behind Remi's post On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:04 PM, Rémi Cardona wrote: > Le 07/07/2009 18:20, Ciaran McCreesh a écrit : >> >> I would be entirely happy if you could get the people whose stated aim >> is to disrupt PMS and / or third party package managers to stop >> poiso

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 10:20 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > I contribute productively and usefully This should have gone in private but I want it to be public because you and others apparently do not get it. The fact that you're contributing or not does not give you or anybody else the right to beha

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 18:34:32 +0200 Rémi Cardona wrote: > Le 07/07/2009 18:20, Ciaran McCreesh a écrit : > > I would be entirely happy if you could get the people whose stated > > aim is to disrupt PMS and / or third party package managers to stop > > poisoning the atmosphere. > > Then _please_ fo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Rémi Cardona
Le 07/07/2009 18:20, Ciaran McCreesh a écrit : I would be entirely happy if you could get the people whose stated aim is to disrupt PMS and / or third party package managers to stop poisoning the atmosphere. Then _please_ for the love of God just _ignore_ him. Thank you

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 7 Jul 2009 10:09:09 -0600 Denis Dupeyron wrote: > On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Ciaran > McCreesh wrote: > > Perhaps you should consider that it's your behaviour that's the > > issue here. > > It's both your behaviors, because they're extremely similar. Except > that you seem to have mo

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Denis Dupeyron
On Tue, Jul 7, 2009 at 7:45 AM, Ciaran McCreesh wrote: > Perhaps you should consider that it's your behaviour that's the issue here. It's both your behaviors, because they're extremely similar. Except that you seem to have more time available than slong to express your defensive personality on our

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Tue, 07 Jul 2009 13:49:34 +0100 Steven J Long wrote: > I'll second that; it's impossible to discuss on bugzilla, as you just > get trolled or spammed. Funny. Other people manage just fine. Perhaps you should consider that it's your behaviour that's the issue here. In the mean time, please prov

[gentoo-dev] Re: Re: A Little Council Reform Anyone?

2009-07-07 Thread Steven J Long
Brian Harring wrote: > In terms of involvement in PMS, frankly it's not worth it from where > I'm sitting due to ciarans behaviour. > > It's not a matter of having thicker skin- it's literally a question of > worth. Is it worth trying to have a voice if it means exposing > yourself to BS behaviou