Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tags (Was: RFC: split up media-sound/ category)

2011-06-25 Thread Kent Fredric
On 25 June 2011 00:51, Nathan Phillip Brink bi...@gentoo.org wrote: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:20:40PM -0400, Wyatt Epp wrote: I bring this up because there are several packages with the same name and different qualification.  Obviously, they'll have different tags because they're not the same

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tags (Was: RFC: split up media-sound/ category)

2011-06-24 Thread Michał Górny
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:07:50 -0400 Wyatt Epp wyatt@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 02:14, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: First: how do tags relate to categories? Are they independent, a refinement or a replacement? I would suggest they be a replacement

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tags (Was: RFC: split up media-sound/ category)

2011-06-24 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 20:07:50 -0400 Wyatt Epp wyatt@gmail.com wrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 02:14, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: First: how do tags relate to categories? Are they independent, a refinement or a replacement? I would suggest they be a replacement

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tags (Was: RFC: split up media-sound/ category)

2011-06-24 Thread Zac Medico
On 06/23/2011 05:07 PM, Wyatt Epp wrote: On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 02:14, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: First: how do tags relate to categories? Are they independent, a refinement or a replacement? I would suggest they be a replacement because categories are just an

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tags (Was: RFC: split up media-sound/ category)

2011-06-24 Thread Wyatt Epp
On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 02:51, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: If you abolish categories in favour of tags, but tags don't uniquely identify a package, how do you uniquely identify a package? Remember that your solution has to work with overlays and with tags being

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tags (Was: RFC: split up media-sound/ category)

2011-06-24 Thread Kent Fredric
On 24 June 2011 20:14, Wyatt Epp wyatt@gmail.com wrote: On Fri, Jun 24, 2011 at 02:51, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: If you abolish categories in favour of tags, but tags don't uniquely identify a package, how do you uniquely identify a package? Remember that your

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tags (Was: RFC: split up media-sound/ category)

2011-06-24 Thread Nathan Phillip Brink
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 11:20:40PM -0400, Wyatt Epp wrote: I bring this up because there are several packages with the same name and different qualification. Obviously, they'll have different tags because they're not the same thing, but neither should they share the same directory. So the

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tags (Was: RFC: split up media-sound/ category)

2011-06-23 Thread Ciaran McCreesh
On Thu, 23 Jun 2011 01:25:57 + (UTC) Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Umm... I believe Ciaran meant no description in the practical PM implementation rules sense, not in the general definition sense, which I suppose most folks here understand by now. No, it's worse than that. Consider

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tags (Was: RFC: split up media-sound/ category)

2011-06-23 Thread Wyatt Epp
On Thu, Jun 23, 2011 at 02:14, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: First: how do tags relate to categories? Are they independent, a refinement or a replacement? I would suggest they be a replacement because categories are just an overly limited subset of a proper tagging

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tags (Was: RFC: split up media-sound/ category)

2011-06-23 Thread Kent Fredric
Another question I think that needs be asked, is What does a tag look like, or What sort of values can a 'tag' have?. People are probably assuming it will be some arbitrary name like video or sound or soforth, but there is potential to use tags for more than that. Consider ideas such as

[gentoo-dev] Re: Tags (Was: RFC: split up media-sound/ category)

2011-06-22 Thread Duncan
Wyatt Epp posted on Wed, 22 Jun 2011 20:57:47 -0400 as excerpted: On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 14:19, Ciaran McCreesh ciaran.mccre...@googlemail.com wrote: On Wed, 22 Jun 2011 21:55:18 +1200 Kent Fredric kentfred...@gmail.com wrote: I'd love a tag solution, that'd be nice, is there a GLEP for it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: Tags (Was: RFC: split up media-sound/ category)

2011-06-22 Thread Wyatt Epp
On Wed, Jun 22, 2011 at 21:25, Duncan 1i5t5.dun...@cox.net wrote: Umm... I believe Ciaran meant no description in the practical PM implementation rules sense, not in the general definition sense, which I suppose most folks here understand by now. Most is not all. ;) In general, I try not to