[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: virtual/modutils and module-init-tools

2012-02-25 Thread Duncan
Walter Dnes posted on Sat, 25 Feb 2012 15:04:22 -0500 as excerpted: > On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 08:28:23AM +, Duncan wrote > >> That leaves those using a dev-manager other than udev in a current >> installation who are depending on the current system set listing to >> bring in module-init-tools

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: virtual/modutils and module-init-tools

2012-02-25 Thread Duncan
William Hubbs posted on Sat, 25 Feb 2012 11:25:55 -0600 as excerpted: > On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 08:44:39AM +, Duncan wrote: >> You are however correct that it'll be on most systems, at least with >> udev-181, since udev won't build without kmod, now. (I found that out >> when the build broke

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: virtual/modutils and module-init-tools

2012-02-25 Thread Walter Dnes
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 08:28:23AM +, Duncan wrote > That leaves those using a dev-manager other than udev in a current > installation who are depending on the current system set listing to bring > in module-init-tools. I believe busybox has it's own modutils as well, > doesn't it, so that

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: virtual/modutils and module-init-tools

2012-02-25 Thread William Hubbs
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 08:44:39AM +, Duncan wrote: > You are however correct that it'll be on most systems, at least with > udev-181, since udev won't build without kmod, now. (I found that out > when the build broke on me due to missing kmod, as I've had udev unmasked > for awhile and got

Re: [gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: virtual/modutils and module-init-tools

2012-02-25 Thread Mike Gilbert
On Sat, Feb 25, 2012 at 3:28 AM, Duncan <1i5t5.dun...@cox.net> wrote: > As such, I disagree with floppym that the handbook's kernel module > section needs updating for this, too.  The handbook doesn't even deal > with non-default dev-managers, nor does it mention module-init-tools, it > just assume

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: virtual/modutils and module-init-tools

2012-02-25 Thread Duncan
Robin H. Johnson posted on Sat, 25 Feb 2012 07:21:40 + as excerpted: > I think we should examine dropping virtual/modutils from system. > It'll be on most systems anyway however. It's needed to build any > kernel, so the only place where it won't be would be a system with a > monolithic kernel

[gentoo-dev] Re: rfc: virtual/modutils and module-init-tools

2012-02-25 Thread Duncan
William Hubbs posted on Sat, 25 Feb 2012 00:01:07 -0600 as excerpted: > Also, this brings up another question. I replaced module-init-tools in > the system set with virtual/modutils. But, since it is possible to have > a linux system with a monolithic kernel, should this even be in the > system s