Re: [gentoo-dev] Session/.desktop WM compatibility, DM unification

2006-03-29 Thread Dan Armak
On Tuesday 28 March 2006 00:27, foser wrote: > I'm aware of the issues surrounding menus, but the spec gives a lot of > options. As said, we haven't dealt with it, because it is not a snag > that we hit currently. > > I think we can basically have several menu setups fit for different > tasks/DEs a

Re: [gentoo-dev] Session/.desktop WM compatibility, DM unification

2006-03-28 Thread Jakub Moc
Dan Armak wrote: >> GDM has had just its own Xsession for a long time iirc. I think most >> functionality provided by these other X* files are login manager (xdm?) >> specific. The one real issue is Xsession. > Can anyone comment regarding entrance or any other DMs? Yeah, I can comment - using e17

Re: [gentoo-dev] Session/.desktop WM compatibility, DM unification

2006-03-27 Thread Aron Griffis
Dan Armak wrote: [Mon Mar 27 2006, 03:25:04PM EST] > Option 1: KDE only displays KDE apps, Gnome only Gnome apps. How do we decide > what is displayed in both ('neutral' apps)? Can the user edit the menu, and > include some things we don't include by default, in a WM-neutral way? What > should W

Re: [gentoo-dev] Session/.desktop WM compatibility, DM unification

2006-03-27 Thread foser
On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 22:25 +0200, Dan Armak wrote: > Assume the install prefix problem is fixed somehow. What items are displayed > in each WM's menu? > > Option 1: KDE only displays KDE apps, Gnome only Gnome apps. How do we decide > what is displayed in both ('neutral' apps) > Can the user e

Re: [gentoo-dev] Session/.desktop WM compatibility, DM unification

2006-03-27 Thread Dan Armak
On Monday 27 March 2006 16:55, foser wrote: > On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 00:03 +0200, Dan Armak wrote: > > > > = Bugs overview (probably missed some): = > > > > #89870: long story, summary: .desktop files are installed in different > > places. KDE only reads the KDE ones, Gnome only the Gnome o

Re: [gentoo-dev] Session/.desktop WM compatibility, DM unification

2006-03-27 Thread Donnie Berkholz
foser wrote: I think the RH approach of using xinitrc.d as a place to unify startup scripts is a workable solution. I'd like the X11 teams input on this however, since the X11 /etc layout and history behind it is largely unknown to me. I agree that this is a good idea and I've thought about it

Re: [gentoo-dev] Session/.desktop WM compatibility, DM unification

2006-03-27 Thread Paul de Vrieze
> > I think the RH approach of using xinitrc.d as a place to unify startup > scripts is a workable solution. I'd like the X11 teams input on this > however, since the X11 /etc layout and history behind it is largely > unknown to me. This would be a solution that could easilly be built upon with t

Re: [gentoo-dev] Session/.desktop WM compatibility, DM unification

2006-03-27 Thread foser
On Mon, 2006-03-27 at 00:03 +0200, Dan Armak wrote: > = Bugs overview (probably missed some): = > > #89870: long story, summary: .desktop files are installed in different > places. > KDE only reads the KDE ones, Gnome only the Gnome ones (and both use a small > common set). This does

Re: [gentoo-dev] Session/.desktop WM compatibility, DM unification

2006-03-27 Thread Paul de Vrieze
On Monday 27 March 2006 00:03, Dan Armak wrote: > I want to work on this, but cooperation between and changes to many WMs > are required, so I'd like to hear from other people who are interested. > These bugs all tend to get stuck, so I'm posting this to the list. I'm still interested in this, alt

[gentoo-dev] Session/.desktop WM compatibility, DM unification

2006-03-26 Thread Dan Armak
Hi all, Many WMs and DEs don't play nice with one another and don't always follow freedesktop.org rules. There's a bunch of open bugs (detailed below) and I'm sure I've missed some more. Also, different DMs (kdm, xdm, gdm, ...) have a lot of unique or, conversely, duplicated or forked scripts