Re: [gentoo-dev] So now that we have --quiet-build as default, can we talk about a forced LC_ALL=C again?

2011-12-07 Thread Zac Medico
On 12/04/2011 03:58 AM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: Mike Frysinger schrieb: and in reality, you're complaining only about LC_MESSAGES, not LC_ALL or any other locale category ... I too think it is sufficient to have LC_MESSAGES=C in the default make.conf (or somewhere else where

Re: [gentoo-dev] So now that we have --quiet-build as default, can we talk about a forced LC_ALL=C again?

2011-12-07 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 04 December 2011 06:58:06 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: Mike Frysinger schrieb: and in reality, you're complaining only about LC_MESSAGES, not LC_ALL or any other locale category ... I too think it is sufficient to have LC_MESSAGES=C in the default make.conf (or somewhere

Re: [gentoo-dev] So now that we have --quiet-build as default, can we talk about a forced LC_ALL=C again?

2011-12-04 Thread Michał Górny
On Sun, 4 Dec 2011 04:50:00 +0100 Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: Subject says it all. More and more bug attachments appear that have been generated with non-English locales, and it's a nuisance for both bug reporters and bug wranglers to request/provide the sane alternative that every

Re: [gentoo-dev] So now that we have --quiet-build as default, can we talk about a forced LC_ALL=C again?

2011-12-04 Thread Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn
Mike Frysinger schrieb: and in reality, you're complaining only about LC_MESSAGES, not LC_ALL or any other locale category ... I too think it is sufficient to have LC_MESSAGES=C in the default make.conf (or somewhere else where the user can easily change it), with a comment to leave it like

Re: [gentoo-dev] So now that we have --quiet-build as default, can we talk about a forced LC_ALL=C again?

2011-12-04 Thread Rich Freeman
2011/12/4 Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn chith...@gentoo.org: I too think it is sufficient to have LC_MESSAGES=C in the default make.conf (or somewhere else where the user can easily change it), with a comment to leave it like this for build.log when reporting bugs. ++ Or if that goes too far

Re: [gentoo-dev] So now that we have --quiet-build as default, can we talk about a forced LC_ALL=C again?

2011-12-04 Thread Paweł Hajdan, Jr.
On 12/4/11 12:58 PM, Chí-Thanh Christopher Nguyễn wrote: Mike Frysinger schrieb: and in reality, you're complaining only about LC_MESSAGES, not LC_ALL or any other locale category ... I too think it is sufficient to have LC_MESSAGES=C in the default make.conf (or somewhere else where the

Re: [gentoo-dev] So now that we have --quiet-build as default, can we talk about a forced LC_ALL=C again?

2011-12-04 Thread James Cloos
As someone who leaves root w/o LANG, I would note that there are a few packages which cannot build unless LANG is set to a UTF-8 locale. What we really need is C.UTF-8 and/or POSIX.UTF-8, and to force *that* in emerge(1), ebuild(1), etc. -JimC -- James Cloos cl...@jhcloos.com OpenPGP:

Re: [gentoo-dev] So now that we have --quiet-build as default, can we talk about a forced LC_ALL=C again?

2011-12-04 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Sunday 04 December 2011 12:37:15 James Cloos wrote: As someone who leaves root w/o LANG, I would note that there are a few packages which cannot build unless LANG is set to a UTF-8 locale. file a bug then What we really need is C.UTF-8 and/or POSIX.UTF-8, and to force *that* in emerge(1),

[gentoo-dev] So now that we have --quiet-build as default, can we talk about a forced LC_ALL=C again?

2011-12-03 Thread Jeroen Roovers
Subject says it all. More and more bug attachments appear that have been generated with non-English locales, and it's a nuisance for both bug reporters and bug wranglers to request/provide the sane alternative that every developer should be able to read. jer

Re: [gentoo-dev] So now that we have --quiet-build as default, can we talk about a forced LC_ALL=C again?

2011-12-03 Thread Alec Warner
On Sat, Dec 3, 2011 at 7:50 PM, Jeroen Roovers j...@gentoo.org wrote: Subject says it all. More and more bug attachments appear that have been generated with non-English locales, and it's a nuisance for both bug reporters and bug wranglers to request/provide the sane alternative that every

Re: [gentoo-dev] So now that we have --quiet-build as default, can we talk about a forced LC_ALL=C again?

2011-12-03 Thread Mike Frysinger
On Saturday 03 December 2011 22:50:00 Jeroen Roovers wrote: Subject says it all. More and more bug attachments appear that have been generated with non-English locales, and it's a nuisance for both bug reporters and bug wranglers to request/provide the sane alternative that every developer