Re: [gentoo-dev] friendly reminder wrt net virtual in init scripts

2013-11-06 Thread Thomas D.
Hi, Michael Orlitzky wrote: You should disable OCSP anyway. In Firefox, it's under, Edit - Preferences - Advanced - Encryption - Validation The OCSP protocol is itself is vulnerable to MITM attacks, which is cute when you consider its purpose. Moreover, it sends the address of every

Re: [gentoo-dev] friendly reminder wrt net virtual in init scripts

2013-11-06 Thread mingdao
On Wed, Nov 06, 2013 at 08:11:52PM +0100, Thomas D. wrote: Hi, Michael Orlitzky wrote: You should disable OCSP anyway. In Firefox, it's under, Edit - Preferences - Advanced - Encryption - Validation The OCSP protocol is itself is vulnerable to MITM attacks, which is cute when

Re: [gentoo-dev] friendly reminder wrt net virtual in init scripts

2013-11-06 Thread Thomas D.
Hi, mingdao wrote: Now, if any one of us turned off OCSP as Michael suggested, what should one do after turning it back on? Could there now be certificates trusted there which should not be? Well, only your current browser session can be affected. For Firefox: History - Clear Recent

Re: [gentoo-dev] friendly reminder wrt net virtual in init scripts

2013-11-06 Thread Michael Orlitzky
-BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE- Hash: SHA1 On 11/06/2013 02:11 PM, Thomas D. wrote: This is going OT but I cannot leave this statement uncommented, because from my knowledge this is wrong/you are hiding important information everyone should know about: I figure everyone here is smart

Re: [gentoo-dev] friendly reminder wrt net virtual in init scripts

2013-11-06 Thread Thomas D.
Hi, Michael Orlitzky wrote: If you are aware about any other know attacks, please share. Replay attacks, mentioned in the RFC (or Google). These could be mitigated, but no one has bothered. The OCSP response is signed. The signature contains a time stamp. If your clock is right, replay

Re: [gentoo-dev] friendly reminder wrt net virtual in init scripts

2013-11-05 Thread mingdao
On Mon, Nov 04, 2013 at 09:30:07PM -0600, William Hubbs wrote: All, I would like to remind everyone about the tracker for services that are misusing need net in their OpenRC init scripts [1]. need net should be removed from our init scripts, because it is bogus and breaks things. I also

Re: [gentoo-dev] friendly reminder wrt net virtual in init scripts

2013-11-05 Thread Tom Wijsman
On Tue, 5 Nov 2013 08:49:15 -0600 mingdao gentoo-...@happypenguincomputers.com wrote: and the link gives me a (Error code: sec_error_ocsp_unknown_cert). The certificate expired; I guess it'll be fixed soon, as he gets back. -- With kind regards, Tom Wijsman (TomWij) Gentoo Developer E-mail

Re: [gentoo-dev] friendly reminder wrt net virtual in init scripts

2013-11-05 Thread Michael Orlitzky
On 11/05/2013 09:49 AM, mingdao wrote: Flameeyes wrote the following blog post concerning this issue: http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2012/10/may-i-have-a-network-connection-please and the link gives me a (Error code: sec_error_ocsp_unknown_cert). You should disable OCSP anyway. In Firefox,

Re: [gentoo-dev] friendly reminder wrt net virtual in init scripts

2013-11-05 Thread mingdao
On Tue, Nov 05, 2013 at 11:39:10AM -0500, Michael Orlitzky wrote: You should disable OCSP anyway. In Firefox, it's under, Edit - Preferences - Advanced - Encryption - Validation The OCSP protocol is itself is vulnerable to MITM attacks, which is cute when you consider its purpose.

Re: [gentoo-dev] friendly reminder wrt net virtual in init scripts

2013-11-05 Thread Daniel Campbell
On 11/05/2013 10:39 AM, Michael Orlitzky wrote: On 11/05/2013 09:49 AM, mingdao wrote: Flameeyes wrote the following blog post concerning this issue: http://blog.flameeyes.eu/2012/10/may-i-have-a-network-connection-please and the link gives me a (Error code: sec_error_ocsp_unknown_cert).

[gentoo-dev] friendly reminder wrt net virtual in init scripts

2013-11-04 Thread William Hubbs
All, I would like to remind everyone about the tracker for services that are misusing need net in their OpenRC init scripts [1]. need net should be removed from our init scripts, because it is bogus and breaks things. I also question the value of use net, because the same thinking applies, e.g.